Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Media Thread

[rosesrREd]

Andi yes. Sharleen not so sure... she has had a few comments regarding Nikki.
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Heck, it seems like everybody except Andi has commented on Nikki. Even demure Cassandra.
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Now... in contrast... everybody has commented on Clare angling up against Juan a lot and Juan angling up with her, but that's a different situation. Kelly jokingly and Andi seriously labeled Clare "crazy" TO Nikki, but not in PI sessions.

Clare wouldn't be bothered about the date card since she already had two dates so far. Now... maybe Nikki seeing Camilla and bragging about it might bother her.

We will just have to see how it plays out.

I see what you're saying, but if only Nikki and 3 rejected bachelorettes get "into" it, then one of the other girls is out on a date with Juan Pablo. I am assuming it is Chelsea, since she is the other one on one date this week. The reason I came to that assumption about the group date card was because there were only 4 girls there during the argument, and the date card usually arrives while a date is going on.

[julychild]

That depends on which one gives him nookie. JP doesn't care what catfights go on as long has his fire is ignited. In any case, these ladies won't see each other after Miami anyway.

Funny thing, though. Something is "off" with the description wording. The previews show Clare and Nikki arguing... AND the abc.com "extras" have each discussing the other. However, all we really see forthcoming is Nikki calling Clare crazy as she leaves the room. If Clare is on the group date, then she is one of the "three rejected bachelorettes". Yet Nikki gets into it with "another woman", which would be either Andi (doubtful since they are buddy-buddy) or Sharleen (who had the other date).

Back at the hotel, things get ugly when the three rejected bachelorettes and Nikki get into an argument. But the situation escalates when Nikki gets into it with another woman and they face off in one of the most explosive confrontations of the season. The deep freeze between these two ladies continues into the cocktail party, culminating in the ultimate awkward silent stand-off.

 I think it may be after the group date card comes and they realize Nikki is on the one on one date.  I could see tension if that happened.  However, the other two girls may not be "involved" in the argument, but rather just bystanders.  I could see Andi and Sharlene both sticking up for Nikki, if Clare starts something.

So many assumptions!!! It would be best to just wait to see what actually goes down, next week.

In the meantime, I'll just remove emotions and take an academic approach to deciphering the whole situation  :Smiley: 

1. Both Nikki and Sharlene have their dates before the group date (read the episode description)
2. It is stated that the fracas happened after the "three rejected bachelorettes" gets back to the hotel from their date
3. Refer to (2) above. They said THREE, not one and two bystanders
4. Andi wouldn't be there because special alone time (refer to preview)
5. Sharlene may or may not be there because she may or may not have taken herself out by then
6. Read this part again "the situation escalates when Nikki gets into it with another woman and they face off in one of the most explosive confrontations of the season."

...ok...going back to wait for next week.

[JBF]

I like the assumptions, Julychild. Gets me to think of different scenarios. That synopsis is really picking our brains... LOL!

Regarding #5. It does LOOK like Sharleen stays past her date on account of three wardrobe changes. How much longer is the question. I guess we can add another "assumption" (i.e. a brainstorming speculation) here and say she changes her mind and accepts a rose at the next ceremony. All of his blubbering concerns Renee. He won't visit Junior if he doesn't see her as the one. I haven't bothered with Reality Steve and cheated to see who makes top 4.

We can certainly rule out Andi being in conflict since both look happy sitting with each other in what appears to be a pre-RC cocktail party. (Andi and Nikki seem to sit together a lot in group situations.)

Curiously the "wool pulled over his eyes" line is not an original coming from Clare. Elise said the same thing back in Korea.

[Guest]

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I'm interested in all this just coming out about Nikki getting to meet his daughter! This is the first time i've heard anything about it! To me, it says a lot that he chose her to meet Camilla and his family. We've saw the SC of him and her walking around Miami but this is the first of the family visit being mentioned!

All it says about these pics is: Source 2013-10-24 19:43:42 Were they filming in Miami around October 24th? They usually don't let the girls go off and do things. Was this part of their date? Seems like this has to be someone from JP's family. And as someone else said, what a body Nikki has! Add that to the reasons she could be the F1!  

On a side note, it must have been painfully obvious to Chelsea that she was going home when Sharleen and Nikki got the dates. She was due for one. She might as well have packed it in right then and skipped the group date.

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ETA: I added the back view.  :shock: She has to win with that going on!  nd.. I think we need a fairy godmother to sprinkle us with magic fairy dust for that.

[nd4reality]

^^^ Someone please tell me how to get a body like that.   

[JesseJames24]

^^^ Someone please tell me how to get a body like that.   

LOL ugh that's what i'm saying! Girl has it going on for sure!

[julychild]

NEWS/ The Bachelor's Renee Oteri Defends "Class Act" Juan Pablo: "I Feel Bad for the Criticism"
by TIERNEY BRICKER Today 11:01 AM PST

Juan Pablo, Renee, The Bachelor
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Juan Pablo Galavis has a fan in Renee Oteri.
The single mother from Sarasota has become a fan favorite during Juan Pablo's season of The Bachelor, mostly because she's managed to avoid the drama and still remain totally watchable.
Who's been unable to avoid the drama? Juan Pablo himself, as the ABC reality star made headlines after making controversial remarks about a possible gay bachelor, as well as for his treatment of another contestant, Clare, after a steamy makeout session he felt went too far.
But Renee, a real estate agent, is quick to defend the Bachelor, telling reporters on Thursday, "He's a class act. I feel bad for the criticism."

And Renee, who has an 8-year old son named Ben, says her opinion of the Venezuelan single father hasn't changed. "I definitely know him and obviously people are going to write things and say things that may or may not be true, but I mean honestly, you do get to know each other really, really well and I still feel the same about him now that I did the moment I met him," she explains. "I have nothing negative to say."
So what is Juan Pablo really like?
"He's super calming, he's super funny. He's a great guy," Renee gushes. "Getting to know him, I had no idea he was so funny. He's hilarious."

Still, Renee can understand some of the criticism from viewers about Juan Pablo seeming confused about what he wants from a relationship. While he refused to kiss her because she was a mother, Juan Pablo made out with many of the other women, including Cassandra, a single mom (Juan Pablo eliminated her in the most recent episode).
"Watching it, it does seem like that. I don't know what goes on when I'm not around, so seeing the other conversations unfold…it does seem like he's a little bit confused," she says. "However, when he's with me, we are on the family level. When he's with the other girls, it's just different. I think each girl is bringing out something different in him, and yeah, he seems confused as to what he wants. It's a different lifestyle whichever way you look at it."
And Renee says she wishes Juan Pablo had been more upfront with her about his kissing concerns during filming.

"The only thing I wish that he did was communicate with me upfront about the whole no kissing thing, because had I known that I would've just done it myself instead of waiting so long," Renee explains. "I totally understand why he felt that way and why he did that. I do respect him a lot for that, but watching it back, it was like, ‘Well, that kind of stinks. You said no to me and then two minutes later you're kissing Clare.' But I understand his reasons, for sure."
Renee reveals she never had a conversation with Juan Pabs about Ben having issues with her kissing him on the show, so she was "relieved" when she found out her son was the reason JP held back. "I didn't know that was the reason at the time, in the weeks leading up to it. I knew when he confronted me about it. Leading up to that, I didn't realize it was about Ben. I thought it was about me. I was like...‘Am I not kissable? What's going on?'"

Oh, and Juan Pablo will be happy to know Ben isn't watching this season ("He's too busy, he's too cool!"), though he watched all of Desiree Hartsock's season of The Bachelorette and "loved it."
The Bachelor airs Mondays at 8 p.m. on ABC.

[Guest]

There's an article in InTouch about Nikki and her "ways". Sources and all saying she was fake and bitchy (even Elise said so, supposedly).

[clueless]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Elise the girl that kept on saying over and over to other girls in the house that Chelsie was like a little girl (or something to that effect)? So......for me personally I wouldn't place a lot of value on what she has to say about Nikki. I dont know Nikki so I can't say if she is or isn't fake or b*****, but some of us non-perfect people have those times when we just don't have on our happy faces or attitudes lol.

[nd4reality]

^^^ Yup that was Elise.

[Jeepers]

All Elise did was moan and groan and put the gals down .. And left pretty early too..... Sour grapes Gal pal of Clare

Her comments are moot .. As are Clare's as we'll LOL

[Guest]

She's not friends with Clare. She said some shi*ty stuff about her and Nikki.

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