Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Media Thread

[eirekay]

Maybe those of us that come from dysfunctional families should get extra points for survival.

Whose family is "functional"? Just askin' cuz I have yet to meet one.....

[JBF]

Moving this over here...

i must say Clare did mention (again!) fairy tale in this promo.

JBF, i cant remember seeing your analysis on this promo ...did i miss it?

i also must say, storyline-wise, edit-wise, all in favor of Clare as the F1 to me. BUT socmed and media (blog) suggesting otherwise, Nikki is the F1. Its downward weird.. . I blame TPTB for this..LOL...(knowing they are throwing him under the bus and put the rebel label on him, i give a benefit of the doubt that they intentionally feed us with the wonky editing...LOL)

i also agree that on FD his BL toward Clare is different than on HTD. BL-wise, Nikki get the most intimate gestures from him. JMO

The "dramatic" finale that everyone will be talking about is Juan holding a rose, followed by shots of Nikki with him.

Like I said before, AfterBuzz and "average" viewers probably assume, thanks to this promo, that Juan either leaves solo... or he chooses Nikki. Most of the "concern" involves Clare.

Nikki... I think... is the one giving us that touching every-little-girl's dream, merging youth with future wedding. After all, Nikki was the one who met Camilla. Not Clare. We are reminded of that OVER and OVER again on AfterBuzz.
Nikki asks if Juan is "ready for this"... answer: "I'm pretty sure". Clare gets all of the "red flags" concerning Juan.
Nikki always says she is guarded and says here that HE may be too... all the more reason viewers feel they are a match.
"Will Juan Pablo propose?" is asked over Nikki, NOT Clare.
Clare, not Nikki, asks if he knows her well enough. This is NOT a concern with Nikki.
Nikki isn't "shocked". Clare is "shocked" by what Juan chose to tell her.
Nikki is not dwelling on the "negative things". She is after his ring... and, yes, he is sporting one.

One peekaboo curve-ball that can be interpreted any number of ways: Nikki is shown arriving at FRC first as Chris Harrison starts to speak. Then Clare gets "a Bachelor finale", while Juan looking stern "that no one sees coming"... followed by Nikki (maybe) crying... and Clare just laying on the bed "concerned" or crying. Not sure.

Another curio: Juan's "you've barely made it" (paraphrasing) that Andi received was edited over Nikki in another promo.

No two promos are exactly alike.









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[Guest]

How does CH sleep at night  How come in JuanPa's finale preview, not a single word from him.

[JBF]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

[quietpal]

I'm really tired of CH's "shocking" conclusions. He has said that he knows he keeps saying it but this time it's really true. Yeah yeah sure sure!  

[notarose]

Moving this over here...

i must say Clare did mention (again!) fairy tale in this promo.

JBF, i cant remember seeing your analysis on this promo ...did i miss it?

i also must say, storyline-wise, edit-wise, all in favor of Clare as the F1 to me. BUT socmed and media (blog) suggesting otherwise, Nikki is the F1. Its downward weird.. . I blame TPTB for this..LOL...(knowing they are throwing him under the bus and put the rebel label on him, i give a benefit of the doubt that they intentionally feed us with the wonky editing...LOL)

i also agree that on FD his BL toward Clare is different than on HTD. BL-wise, Nikki get the most intimate gestures from him. JMO

The "dramatic" finale that everyone will be talking about is Juan holding a rose, followed by shots of Nikki with him.

Like I said before, AfterBuzz and "average" viewers probably assume, thanks to this promo, that Juan either leaves solo... or he chooses Nikki. Most of the "concern" involves Clare.

Nikki... I think... is the one giving us that touching every-little-girl's dream, merging youth with future wedding. After all, Nikki was the one who met Camilla. Not Clare. We are reminded of that OVER and OVER again on AfterBuzz.
Nikki asks if Juan is "ready for this"... answer: "I'm pretty sure". Clare gets all of the "red flags" concerning Juan.
Nikki always says she is guarded and says here that HE may be too... all the more reason viewers feel they are a match.
"Will Juan Pablo propose?" is asked over Nikki, NOT Clare.
Clare, not Nikki, asks if he knows her well enough. This is NOT a concern with Nikki.
Nikki isn't "shocked". Clare is "shocked" by what Juan chose to tell her.
Nikki is not dwelling on the "negative things". She is after his ring... and, yes, he is sporting one.

One peekaboo curve-ball that can be interpreted any number of ways: Nikki is shown arriving at FRC first as Chris Harrison starts to speak. Then Clare gets "a Bachelor finale", while Juan looking stern "that no one sees coming"... followed by Nikki (maybe) crying... and Clare just laying on the bed "concerned" or crying. Not sure.

Another curio: Juan's "you've barely made it" (paraphrasing) that Andi received was edited over Nikki in another promo.

Q

No two promos are exactly alike.









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Enjoyed your analysis! Adding: Nikki's "every little girl" comment includes "THEY dream of" followed by an "I love JP" suggesting her dreams differ. Also a Clare statement ending in "off" is followed by JP with a ring box then Nikki walking which could mean either or both relationships are off or that he will propose but off camera or who knows? The word off seems to have been spliced in.

[JBF]

Good catch... It is possible Clare says "awful" instead of "off". In any case, they always throw a curve-ball in the finale. She was warned that he can be rude.

Back in New Zealand, Clare said “it is not about what you fight about, but how you handle it.” The one problem with Nikki... so far... is that we haven't seen them fight about anything... yet. She tells us that "I can pick all of the negative things and dwell on them, but I don't want to LOSE this." (Cue shot of him holding the ring.) I don't know what "negative things" she is talking about, but Nikki must think she's the rabbit out to beat the turtle or something. Juan and Andi never fought until she left.

[Guest]

Good catch... It is possible Clare says "awful" instead of "off". In any case, they always throw a curve-ball in the finale. She was warned that he can be rude.

Back in New Zealand, Clare said “it is not about what you fight about, but how you handle it.” The one problem with Nikki... so far... is that we haven't seen them fight about anything... yet. She tells us that "I can pick all of the negative things and dwell on them, but I don't want to LOSE this." (Cue shot of him holding the ring.) I don't know what "negative things" she is talking about, but Nikki must think she's the rabbit out to beat the turtle or something. Juan and Andi never fought until she left.

yeah, following "obstacles to overcome" theory of F1. Nikki is less likely the F1 candidate.

i cant help it. the devil-ish part of me suggest that this pic is actually screaming obvious clue of the outcome.   
Both 2 sassy girls are thrilled that they dont have any business with JPab whatsoever ever again.  ..Cheers!!   

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[chloep]

I don't know...........     
They just both seem so OFF to me. Nikki seems super somber and tense, looking down, marching forward and Clare just seems weird, almost like she is sedated, it's like she'd just stop walking any moment.

[notarose]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet: quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

[pbmax]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet: quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

He whisper something to her twice and lip something to her. After she said it he got all up in her face, staring at her. He was trying to be snesky and say something to her without the mic catching it.

[notarose]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

He whisper something to her twice and lip something to her. After she said it he got all up in her face, staring at her. He was trying to be snesky and say something to her without the mic catching it.

Exactly. And the proximity of his face to hers during the exchange made it impossible for the cameramen to film their expressions. Sneaky indeed.

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