Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Media Thread

[4health]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

He whisper something to her twice and lip something to her. After she said it he got all up in her face, staring at her. He was trying to be snesky and say something to her without the mic catching it.

pb closed caption it shows what he says….he says "i like you…..like" whispering….he whispered with Clare also and I typed what was said during that time also…..when we have a favorite of course we want it to match or validate that what we are watching and who we think the lead is falling for.  I am the same way but not just for a favorite just one I think has the biggest connection…I really don't care because it has already happen and I can't change it.

[nd4reality]

I still see a strong enough case for either lady to be F1. I can honestly say that I wouldn't consider either of them ending up as "DEFAULT" - the word that JaunP is not familiar with  :Smiley: .

I know there will be plenty of posters that will be labeling the chosen one (IF he does) as default because there seems to be some murky waters still ahead for our Bachelor and those folks will claim that the one he chooses (again IF) ends up as such.

[4health]

I still see a strong enough case for either lady to be F1. I can honestly say that I wouldn't consider either of them ending up as "DEFAULT" - the word that JaunP is not familiar with  :Smiley: .

I know there will be plenty of posters that will be labeling the chosen one (IF he does) as default because there seems to be some murky waters still ahead for our Bachelor and those folks will claim that the one he chooses (again IF) ends up as such.

I guess that is what I am saying.  I don't think I have ever had a season like this for sleuthing.  I see how the edit is showing one thing possibly matching the spoilers and then other times it doesn't and make me want to figure this out.  It will be a long two weeks for me and that is the frustrating part …. I wish we had more to sleuth that is the fun of all this JMO

[pbmax]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

He whisper something to her twice and lip something to her. After she said it he got all up in her face, staring at her. He was trying to be snesky and say something to her without the mic catching it.

pb closed caption it shows what he says….he says "i like you…..like" whispering….he whispered with Clare also and I typed what was said during that time also…..when we have a favorite of course we want it to match or validate that what we are watching and who we think the lead is falling for.  I am the same way but not just for a favorite just one I think has the biggest connection…I really don't care because it has already happen and I can't change it.

First let me say as I have so many times, I don't watch this show to pick a favorite. My objective is to see where the true connection is, not the fake one cause that's all a part of the process (you know to fool the viewers). I watch closely to actions, things said heck I go inside the head.
That's what I'm interested in the connection not choosing a favorite. Juan Pablo is doing too much whispering with Nikki, trying to let this girl know how he feel

[mprssdbyu]

Good Evening all! I guess this goes in the media thread because it's based on previews. I'm guessing Clare goes first on her MTP/LCD.On what appears to be evening hours of LCD, I think she's leading JP when she asked him if he knows her well enough to make a decision or something along those lines...leading him to what...oh right into a door she thinks opens to discuss if he really knows Nikki. I do think JP mentions it to Nikki later and leaves Nikki at the end of her MTP/LCD feeling emotionally exhausted and afraid of losing it all....what she has with JP in her eyes. I don't think he's at a point where he can assure her of a guaranteed ending no matter who he chooses. Hence the crying Nikki on the couch.

I don't think JP was happy with Clare. I think he saw a little bit of what Nikki sees and many of us. During these episodes, JP has seen a little bit of Andi in Clare that she doesn't shy away from confrontation...and she doesn't hush easily.

I have decided that JP doesn't propose...he's not ready. He's emotionally exhausted and there just wasn't enough time in his eyes to get to know either Clare or Nikki in that a proposal makes sense or is good for him/Camilla. I do feel he likes Nikki too much to walk away without asking for more time. Now, will his FRC speech to Nikki be enough to soften her and make her understand and happy with his decision. That's the million dollar question for me!

I just know that when all of this is said and done, I hope JP gets to laugh a little or a hell of alot more than TB has allowed him since January 4. I don't know if a lead has suffered more at the hands of production....ever. Hell, I wish ABC would ask him to go on DWTS. For me, that would be getting even with them.

[4health]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

He whisper something to her twice and lip something to her. After she said it he got all up in her face, staring at her. He was trying to be snesky and say something to her without the mic catching it.

pb closed caption it shows what he says….he says "i like you…..like" whispering….he whispered with Clare also and I typed what was said during that time also…..when we have a favorite of course we want it to match or validate that what we are watching and who we think the lead is falling for.  I am the same way but not just for a favorite just one I think has the biggest connection…I really don't care because it has already happen and I can't change it.

First let me say as I have so many times, I don't watch this show to pick a favorite. My objective is to see where the true connection is, not the fake one cause that's all a part of the process (you know to fool the viewers). I watch closely to actions, things said heck I go inside the head.
That's what I'm interested in the connection not choosing a favorite. Juan Pablo is doing too much whispering with Nikki, trying to let this girl know how he feel

I responded to you in another thread, so I won't repeat myself….but I guess my difficulty with your statement is how can you get in someone's head besides your own?  We each have our own experiences and feelings that influence our thoughts and what we see or feel.  Maybe whispering means one thing to you but to JP it is that he knows she is shy and quiet and match her personality.  You just don't know….you might be right….but I do appreciate your opinion but understand that is how I see it an Opinion.

[4health]

Good Evening all! I guess this goes in the media thread because it's based on previews. I'm guessing Clare goes first on her MTP/LCD.On what appears to be evening hours of LCD, I think she's leading JP when she asked him if he knows her well enough to make a decision or something along those lines...leading him to what...oh right into a door she thinks opens to discuss if he really knows Nikki. I do think JP mentions it to Nikki later and leaves Nikki at the end of her MTP/LCD feeling emotionally exhausted and afraid of losing it all....what she has with JP in her eyes. I don't think he's at a point where he can assure her of a guaranteed ending no matter who he chooses. Hence the crying Nikki on the couch.

I don't think JP was happy with Clare. I think he saw a little bit of what Nikki sees and many of us. During these episodes, JP has seen a little bit of Andi in Clare that she doesn't shy away from confrontation...and she doesn't hush easily.

I have decided that JP doesn't propose...he's not ready. He's emotionally exhausted and there just wasn't enough time in his eyes to get to know either Clare or Nikki in that a proposal makes sense or is good for him/Camilla. I do feel he likes Nikki too much to walk away without asking for more time. Now, will his FRC speech to Nikki be enough to soften her and make her understand and happy with his decision. That's the million dollar question for me!

I just know that when all of this is said and done, I hope JP gets to laugh a little or a hell of alot more than TB has allowed him since January 4. I don't know if a lead has suffered more at the hands of production....ever. Hell, I wish ABC would ask him to go on DWTS. For me, that would be getting even with them.

I thought that a few days ago and posted that Clare just couldn't help herself.   I think her comment about not liking what she heard him say just might make her not F1 reaction not be as dramatic as it would have been.  This makes the most sense to me.  This whole season has been editing to have more than one storyline/two final girls and so hard to decide hence a possible no proposal or choice.  He liked both of them (so different but so much a like) and a tough decision but Clare made it an easy decision because he doesn't like tattle telling or Clare just had to question him about his answer to his question and he doesn't like that.  we shall see! but I like it….(well it is an answer because it just isn't black and white but matches the spoilers also)

[mprssdbyu]

His HTD blog and the FD helped me decide he doesn't propose. It seems he tried to give us the ending in his last paragraph when speaking of Nikki's dad. Everything I saw on FD echos those feelings he warned us about in his blog. And he warned us when talking about Nikki's HTD. I just don't see it any other way, now. For me blogs are always so telling...some are easier to pull out the ending than others. I had to really read Dez's several times to get what she was trying to tell us..yet not.

[4health]

His HTD blog and the FD helped me decide he doesn't propose. It seems he tried to give us the ending in his last paragraph when speaking of Nikki's dad. Everything I saw on FD echos those feelings he warned us about in his blog. And he warned us when talking about Nikki's HTD. I just don't see it any other way, now. For me blogs are always so telling...some are easier to pull out the ending than others. I had to really read Dez's several times to get what she was trying to tell us..yet not.

I agree …. but I just can't get pass that fact that his communication skills aren't the greatest in English etc.  Unlike Des that writes poetry and knows how to send out sutle hints.  So, I could go as far to say that a handler is helping him write it with his voice/perception and possible not wanting to give it away also.  So once again we can always come with a different point of view.

[pbmax]

His HTD blog and the FD helped me decide he doesn't propose. It seems he tried to give us the ending in his last paragraph when speaking of Nikki's dad. Everything I saw on FD echos those feelings he warned us about in his blog. And he warned us when talking about Nikki's HTD. I just don't see it any other way, now. For me blogs are always so telling...some are easier to pull out the ending than others. I had to really read Dez's several times to get what she was trying to tell us..yet not.

I love your post above too. I believe Clare will talk about Nikki too and by the look on his face and response, he doesn't like it. Which would be a big mistake cause he strung for Nikki and wouldn't appreciate it. I read the blogs for clues too and his in my opinion are very telling.

[Aunties_Love]

You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

He whisper something to her twice and lip something to her. After she said it he got all up in her face, staring at her. He was trying to be snesky and say something to her without the mic catching it.

pb closed caption it shows what he says….he says "i like you…..like" whispering….he whispered with Clare also and I typed what was said during that time also…..when we have a favorite of course we want it to match or validate that what we are watching and who we think the lead is falling for.  I am the same way but not just for a favorite just one I think has the biggest connection…I really don't care because it has already happen and I can't change it.

First let me say as I have so many times, I don't watch this show to pick a favorite. My objective is to see where the true connection is, not the fake one cause that's all a part of the process (you know to fool the viewers). I watch closely to actions, things said heck I go inside the head.
That's what I'm interested in the connection not choosing a favorite. Juan Pablo is doing too much whispering with Nikki, trying to let this girl know how he feel

The thing is, we all see the connection differently. A lot of people in the general public probably think that Nikki will be the f1 because there has been so much crap with Clare. To me for the general viewers, Nikki would be the obvious choice. Thinking that way, I do see that Clare would be the F1.

[Guest]

Good Evening all! I guess this goes in the media thread because it's based on previews. I'm guessing Clare goes first on her MTP/LCD.On what appears to be evening hours of LCD, I think she's leading JP when she asked him if he knows her well enough to make a decision or something along those lines...leading him to what...oh right into a door she thinks opens to discuss if he really knows Nikki. I do think JP mentions it to Nikki later and leaves Nikki at the end of her MTP/LCD feeling emotionally exhausted and afraid of losing it all....what she has with JP in her eyes. I don't think he's at a point where he can assure her of a guaranteed ending no matter who he chooses. Hence the crying Nikki on the couch.

I don't think JP was happy with Clare. I think he saw a little bit of what Nikki sees and many of us. During these episodes, JP has seen a little bit of Andi in Clare that she doesn't shy away from confrontation...and she doesn't hush easily.

I have decided that JP doesn't propose...he's not ready. He's emotionally exhausted and there just wasn't enough time in his eyes to get to know either Clare or Nikki in that a proposal makes sense or is good for him/Camilla. I do feel he likes Nikki too much to walk away without asking for more time. Now, will his FRC speech to Nikki be enough to soften her and make her understand and happy with his decision. That's the million dollar question for me!

I just know that when all of this is said and done, I hope JP gets to laugh a little or a hell of alot more than TB has allowed him since January 4. I don't know if a lead has suffered more at the hands of production....ever. Hell, I wish ABC would ask him to go on DWTS. For me, that would be getting even with them.

WORD. i concur the bolded. in fact, i and few posters in edit/sc thread have speculated about this. quite a while ago. Hence, comes the term that he doesnt like tattle tales.With this premise of the rundown, i can see Nikki being his F1. Does anyone catch Clar`s ITM mentioning that she and Nikki couldnt be more different?. i assume it was a `prolog` for the LCD convo about Nikki.

Whomever he ends up with, i believe there is tsunami in the heaven. Boy..., the machine has thrown him under the bus heartlessly, dont they?. Poor guy.

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