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Post by nd4reality Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:54 am

murasaki1393 wrote:
mprssdbyu wrote:Good Evening all! I guess this goes in the media thread because it's based on previews. I'm guessing Clare goes first on her MTP/LCD.On what appears to be evening hours of LCD, I think she's leading JP when she asked him if he knows her well enough to make a decision or something along those lines...leading him to what...oh right into a door she thinks opens to discuss if he really knows Nikki. I do think JP mentions it to Nikki later and leaves Nikki at the end of her MTP/LCD feeling emotionally exhausted and afraid of losing it all....what she has with JP in her eyes. I don't think he's at a point where he can assure her of a guaranteed ending no matter who he chooses. Hence the crying Nikki on the couch.

I don't think JP was happy with Clare. I think he saw a little bit of what Nikki sees and many of us. During these episodes, JP has seen a little bit of Andi in Clare that she doesn't shy away from confrontation...and she doesn't hush easily.

I have decided that JP doesn't propose...he's not ready. He's emotionally exhausted and there just wasn't enough time in his eyes to get to know either Clare or Nikki in that a proposal makes sense or is good for him/Camilla. I do feel he likes Nikki too much to walk away without asking for more time. Now, will his FRC speech to Nikki be enough to soften her and make her understand and happy with his decision. That's the million dollar question for me!

I just know that when all of this is said and done, I hope JP gets to laugh a little or a hell of alot more than TB has allowed him since January 4. I don't know if a lead has suffered more at the hands of production....ever. Hell, I wish ABC would ask him to go on DWTS. For me, that would be getting even with them.

WORD. i concur the bolded. in fact, i and few posters in edit/sc thread have speculated about this. quite a while ago. Hence, comes the term that he doesnt like tattle tales.With this premise of the rundown, i can see Nikki being his F1. Does anyone catch Clar`s ITM mentioning that she and Nikki couldnt be more different?. i assume it was a `prolog` for the LCD convo about Nikki.

Whomever he ends up with, i believe there is tsunami in the heaven. Boy..., the machine has thrown him under the bus heartlessly, dont they?. Poor guy.


I agree with this line of thinking. I too think that Clare's PI was deliberately shown as a setup for her questioning of JP at the LCD stage. Plus JP has already had to "deal" with Clare's shenanigans previously and that line of questioning is possibly going to put the nail in the coffin for him. He is looking for someone that he can get on with who has the qualities that would make both him and his family happy. There is a huge chance of a big 'ole red flag coming up prior to the finale. Can't keep your hands off chemistry is likely to burn too fast. Hence in previous seasons we have seen the chemistry connection loosing out to the combination of chemistry and emotion candidate.
JPs blogs indeed have had hints as so how things end up for him.
If he did not propose that is a way more realistic ending to this season. I for one have always thought that the engagement at the end of this is ridiculous and if JaunP ends up asking the F1 to date him in RL then yay for him.

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Post by mprssdbyu Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:15 am

Because I strongly feel Nikki is F1 and he did ask her to continue the relationship beyond FRC, they will have their day in the media. If nothing but an article somewhere in People Magazine! LOL Anyway, I think Nikki will get the chance to undo some of the negativity that production and these women have tried so hard to create. She's a smart girl and she'll use her time wisely esp if they are still having fun together and she still loves him. Will it last, I don't know. But I do know between production and the women he knew would not be candidates for F1 which included "Andi", etc they've had a rough road. If they are still together their relationship is much stronger than many who didnt make it. If these girls ESP ANDI have been watching closely they can see that he was very different with Nikki.. For me, that makes Andi's take a little less effective as time goes on. We shall see.


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Post by docnash14 Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:29 am

murasaki1393 wrote:
mprssdbyu wrote:Good Evening all! I guess this goes in the media thread because it's based on previews. I'm guessing Clare goes first on her MTP/LCD.On what appears to be evening hours of LCD, I think she's leading JP when she asked him if he knows her well enough to make a decision or something along those lines...leading him to what...oh right into a door she thinks opens to discuss if he really knows Nikki. I do think JP mentions it to Nikki later and leaves Nikki at the end of her MTP/LCD feeling emotionally exhausted and afraid of losing it all....what she has with JP in her eyes. I don't think he's at a point where he can assure her of a guaranteed ending no matter who he chooses. Hence the crying Nikki on the couch.

I don't think JP was happy with Clare. I think he saw a little bit of what Nikki sees and many of us. During these episodes, JP has seen a little bit of Andi in Clare that she doesn't shy away from confrontation...and she doesn't hush easily.

I have decided that JP doesn't propose...he's not ready. He's emotionally exhausted and there just wasn't enough time in his eyes to get to know either Clare or Nikki in that a proposal makes sense or is good for him/Camilla. I do feel he likes Nikki too much to walk away without asking for more time. Now, will his FRC speech to Nikki be enough to soften her and make her understand and happy with his decision. That's the million dollar question for me!

I just know that when all of this is said and done, I hope JP gets to laugh a little or a hell of alot more than TB has allowed him since January 4. I don't know if a lead has suffered more at the hands of production....ever. Hell, I wish ABC would ask him to go on DWTS. For me, that would be getting even with them.

WORD. i concur the bolded. in fact, i and few posters in edit/sc thread have speculated about this. quite a while ago. Hence, comes the term that he doesnt like tattle tales.With this premise of the rundown, i can see Nikki being his F1. Does anyone catch Clar`s ITM mentioning that she and Nikki couldnt be more different?. i assume it was a `prolog` for the LCD convo about Nikki.

Whomever he ends up with, i believe there is tsunami in the heaven. Boy..., the machine has thrown him under the bus heartlessly, dont they?. Poor guy.



Perhaps the lowest blow being in the previews showing both parents saying something negative (or quasi negative by dad) about him.

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Post by Isabel123 Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:36 am

mprssdbyu wrote:Because I strongly feel Nikki is F1 and he did ask her to continue the relationship beyond FRC, they will have their day in the media. If nothing but an article somewhere in People Magazine! LOL Anyway, I think Nikki will get the chance to undo some of the negativity that production and these women have tried so hard to create. She's a smart girl and she'll use her time wisely esp if they are still having fun together and she still loves him. Will it last, I don't know. But I do know between production and the women he knew would not be candidates for F1 which included "Andi", etc they've had a rough road. If they are still together their relationship is much stronger than many who didnt make it.  If these girls ESP ANDI have been watching closely they can see that he was very different with Nikki.. For me, that makes Andi's take a little less effective as time goes on. We shall see.

I agree with your observation.
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Post by Hotmomma Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:57 am

I fell that JP won't propose at the FrC either now if he is with his F1( who I think is Nikki) I think if they are doing well he may do it live at the ATFR..

And I think Clare cause so kinda of drama in the last episode..that is why she says something about " it didn't go well..so I though..

I think Nikki will be at easy with his parents because she has met them in Miami..and she does ask his mom if she thinks he is ready for this..

I also feel bad for JP-All the heat he is taking..I think he didn't crumble..He did it his way and now he is paying for it..

And that said he is still fighting back with all his hints and posting the last YT video three times..
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Post by pbmax Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:18 pm

Hotmomma wrote:I fell that JP won't propose at the FrC either now if he is with his F1( who I think is Nikki) I think if they are doing well he may do it live at the ATFR..

And I think Clare cause so kinda of drama in the last episode..that is why she says something about " it didn't go well..so I though..

I think Nikki will be at easy with his parents because she has met them in Miami..and she does ask his mom if she thinks he is ready for this..

I also feel bad for JP-All the heat he is taking..I think he didn't crumble..He did it his way and now he is paying for it..

And that said he is still fighting back with all his hints and posting the last YT video three times..

I feel he will propose at the ATFR. I feel these things and the video he is tweeting is his hint that everything is fine with him and Nikki.
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Post by notarose Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:36 pm

pbmax wrote:
Hotmomma wrote:I fell that JP won't propose at the FrC either now if he is with his F1( who I think is Nikki) I think if they are doing well he may do it live at the ATFR..

And I think Clare cause so kinda of drama in the last episode..that is why she says something about " it didn't go well..so I though..

I think Nikki will be at easy with his parents because she has met them in Miami..and she does ask his mom if she thinks he is ready for this..

I also feel bad for JP-All the heat he is taking..I think he didn't crumble..He did it his way and now he is paying for it..

And that said he is still fighting back with all his hints and posting the last YT video three times..

I feel he will propose at the ATFR.  I feel these things and the video he is tweeting is his hint that everything is fine with him and Nikki.

If there is a proposal I believe we will see it at the ATFR... IN THE FORM A DVD they bring with them.
(Thinking outside the box ... Something that's never happened before)
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Post by nd4reality Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:47 pm

Blake and Holly had that ^^^.


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Post by JBF Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:30 pm

Hilarious recap of Andi's Attack.



Obviously Andi won the battle like the skilled attorney she is, but I have a confession to make. If she is chosen as The Bachelorette, I'm skipping the season. If she can fight this much with the lead, just imagine how much drama (and ZERO romance) we will get on her show. All one guy has to do is not accept a rose and she will leave Deanna in the dust with her Graham Rage.

That was, hands down, the worst exit since Bentley. No... I take that back... Bentley was amusing to watch. Andi won't even smile like Bentley did. The sad part is that I actually LIKED her early in the season. Noooo... I take that back. I don't dislike her either. Just don't feel a desire to "root" for her. I still like her dad Hy. If you are reading this, Hi Hy! I wouldn't mind seeing YOU get YOUR show.

Bring on Renee or Chelsie as Bachelorette and I'll root them on. Maybe... MAYBE... Sharleen. Only she is a little too "cerebral" for me.
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:41 pm

I cant see any of the girls being with Juan Pablo at this point. There friends from the show are trashing him quite bad...especially Nikki's core group of Kelly, Sharleen, and Andi. I just dont see how he could be with either of those girls while Nikki's bff's from the show dont like him and she's obviously very close with them. Clare to a smaller extent too with her being friends with Lucy and some of the others but mostly Nikki and how close she is with S/K/A. Seems highly unlikely.

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:46 pm

JBF wrote:Hilarious recap of Andi's Attack.


Obviously Andi won the battle like the skilled attorney she is, but I have a confession to make. If she is chosen as The Bachelorette, I'm skipping the season. If she can fight this much with the lead, just imagine how much drama (and ZERO romance) we will get on her show. All one guy has to do is not accept a rose and she will leave Deanna in the dust with her Graham Rage.

That was, hands down, the worst exit since Bentley. No... I take that back... Bentley was amusing to watch. Andi won't even smile like Bentley did. The sad part is that I actually LIKED her early in the season. Noooo... I take that back. I don't dislike her either. Just don't feel a desire to "root" for her. I still like her dad Hy. If you are reading this, Hi Hy! I wouldn't mind seeing YOU get YOUR show.

Bring on Renee or Chelsie as Bachelorette and I'll root them on. Maybe... MAYBE... Sharleen. Only she is a little too "cerebral" for me.

feeling the same JBF, though I know I'll watch whoever it is.

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Post by 4health Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:48 pm

I guess my question is Do you think just because someone has accepted a friend request from the show that automatically means they are BFFs or even following each other on twitter…..I have a lot of followers but there not BFFs with me….but I will agree that the show had Andi and Nikki as BFF's and Nikki has stated as such sense the show had ended.  I think also A/N/S/K meet after the show ended if I remember right…..so it is a question to wonder how a BFF can ditch on your boyfriend and be so harsh on him (JP).

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