*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions

Move from SCs.

I am going to do a JBF here(only joking)…

I am starting the conversation from the night portion of the date…Please ignore any typos.  lots of typing.

Nikki: Today I met your family, I met Camila..I met Carla, I just wonder.. I mean where does someone fit in with all that..you know what I mean..What is the dynamic like.  I know you and Carla are friends.  Is she ok with all of this?

JP: Yes.  She is totally ok

Nikki: ok

JP:  She understands.  We have a good relationship..she understands everything.  She wants what is best for me and I want the best for her.

nikki: Sure

JP:  She is fine..It is natural..it is just normal to us..just having a good relationship and being there.  So it is good for you to understand that…If the moon and sky and everyone wants us to be together obviously this is how it is. . so I am glad you feel comfortable.

Nikki:  I do

ITM JP: Nikki is thinking how do I fit in here…and it is great that it is a thoughtful question.. she is thinking and I like that .. and she took a little step today.. she went to the recital..that is how you fit in..just be yourself..hangout doing things in family and that is it..

Nikki: Famiy is #1 in my book

JP: That's good.

Nikki : yah.

ITM: Today is a great day with Nikki..it was great..we handout..we went to recital.. saw Camila..she met my parents..I feel happy because she try everything today..she makes me happy..if she is enjoying..I am enjoying.  I feel comfortable.  I feel easy.  I feel that I can talk..I feel like I can hangout..I can hold her hand..I just feel it.

Nikki: I feel hopeful that you will come home with me next week.
JP: Umm I think about it
Nikki: Ok. You think about it.

ITM: When it comes down to JP planning this date for me, he definitely hit a home run.  You know it was a glimpse into his life today.. a glimpse that I can see myself totally fitting right in.. I am in love with JP.  I knew I was falling and today really solidify my feelings for him.  (me: Isn't this to early?)  I want the rest of my life..I want a forever and I want it with Juan Pablo.

iamreal2u wrote:ITM: When it comes down to JP planning this date for me, he definitely hit a home run.  You know it was a glimpse into his life today.. a glimpse that I can see myself totally fitting right in.. I am in love with JP.  I knew I was falling and today really solidify my feelings for him.  (me: Isn't this to early?)  I want the rest of my life..I want a forever and I want it with Juan Pablo.

Maybe it is too early... but Chris told Des "ILY" in Madeira, same episode. They all are in the same Reality TV Bubble.

Here, Nikki spells out what she wants...

*cross posting with  media thread, since its related to my prev post about editing*

sde1041 wrote: 

nd4reality wrote:

sde1041 wrote:Reading the US weekly article, it sounds like JP picks no one ...

Anything specific that made you think that ?

I do suspect that there is more drama besides Andi leaving at the end.
Grace and I both heard Clare saying that she need to tell him something and then saying but I thought as though she thought he would appreciate what she told him but he didn't.
So something else causes an upset towards the end for JP and his ending.

It took me some time to find the article, I found it in fact on Reality TV World and not US weekly ...
It was an interview with Chris Harrison who didn't seem very optimistic on the outcome and talking about a rocky final road.
Also,
" Chris Harrison: I think he has a tough letting go and really opening up and giving himself to this process"
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It  made me think that if JP was not really into the process, maybe it's because he didn't really intend to pick someone...Just a thought.  

i think i am on the fence of who the F1 is. (finally!..LOL)

i agree People`s Blog is a good indication of the F1. Frankly last season i relied on it to predict that Chris actually is the F1. The fact that Des and Chris both love writing and very articulate in expressing themself through it, make me convinced about my prediction.

However, this season I know nothing about JPab. but i found his writing about Nikki is too suspicious, to say the least. and then he tweeted this, purposely for his last date (where Nikki got special date in Miami)

Juan Pablo Galavis ‏@JuanPaGalavis  Feb 17
And also the SELFIES and PICTURES I took during FILMING...

Juan Pablo Galavis ‏@JuanPaGalavis  Feb 17
Finishing writing the BLOG for @peoplemag... Every WEEK gets better and LONGER, cause I can tell you MANY things that DON'T air...

The fact that the wrote so much about the thing we ddint see on his date with Nikki make me wonder...Although i know Des has wrote about Brooks hot tub time and even kissing JPab in the igloo that we didnt get to see, she only wrote it in a glimpse, while JPab seems intentionally illustrate his time with Nikki that didnt air in Miami`s date in a melancholic way. LOL...i.e. the sunflower, playing softball and the hat. Just need to add, JPab are going to bring sunflower (flower he likes the most )in Nikki`s HTD . (4: 57) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

In his blog, These particular things make me wonder :
-- He put Nikki 3 times as the title of his paragraph (Nikki gets a rose, Nikki gets an one and one,Surprise for Nikki). Des did too for Chris last season. while Clare gets NONE
--There were no pics of selfie of him and his date, except the one with Nikki on last epis. even the one with Clare is courtesy of ABC, not a selfie.
THESE are quite weird, IMO.

regarding above article, CH did mention that it was the hardest 3 final weeks they have ever seen. Since we know he always tend to overhype, we can believe him or ....not..LOL..

commenting about the preview..nd, i agree with you. im thinking the possibility of Clare went to him to bad-talking about Nikki to only getting back to bite her.  He once spilled that he doesnt like tattle tales, right?.

me think, one of my analysis in edit thread (bomb#4..Nikki get electrified   ) could be referring to the upcoming scenes, where Clare telling JPab about Nikki `s `true color`..that are going to end badly (i also think Clare`s crying in the bed, with her face downward is prolly a `regret` cry)

hmm...Tuesday cant come soon enough

murasaki1393 wrote:me think, one of my analysis in edit thread (bomb#4..Nikki get electrified   ) could be referring to the upcoming scenes, where Clare telling JPab about Nikki `s `true color`..that are going to end badly (i also think Clare`s crying in the bed, with her face downward is prolly a `regret` cry)

hmm...Tuesday cant come soon enough

I know you are trying to Be As Fair As Possible, but I seriously doubt that Clare is ratting on Nikki. All of that silly business was settled in Korea. In Miami, they simply didn't speak to each other. End Of The War. Clare's line about Nikki not ready for this reminds me of Chris' "like" comment about Brooks... we shall see what happens.

Many thought Chris in the promos was dumped simply because he looked "concerned" in that RC shot and was rubbing his eyes in the limo. Likewise, Clare has her head down because... she has her head down. There are no tears streaming down her face, apart from the obvious crying with Mom on the hometown (where most of her struggle is). We just get snippets of conversations not heard in full... and snippets of Juan looking concerned that are NOT in the same screencap "frame" as Clare, so they could have come from any time in this silly season. It is the OLDEST editing trick in the book and everybody falls for it again and again and again.

We all know that they also withhold many screencaps, so there is still a chance that Nikki has a LCD... or her couch scene is a LCD... and, maybe, she could still be F1. By now we had some of Drew's LCD this time last season. Sadly... for their fans on this forum... it LOOKS like both she and Andi are gone Tuesday night...and this could be a reason for back to back episodes (so the Women Tell All won't have leaks as to who shows up). There is also the possibility of Renee "boomeranging" since she is shown when Harrison states "Monday and Tuesday". What happens is anybody's guess.

i believe your expertise in editing,JBF... but the People Blog has got me..confused..LOL

so this is my no.2. attempt to be as fair as possible   :

in the preview, Clare blatantly shown confessing ILY....has there been any of the past F1 done this before?

on Des season, i can recall only Zak and Drew did. (preview week 8 and sneak peek finale)

TIA and everybody is welcome to weigh in

murasaki1393 wrote:*cross posting with  media thread, since its related to my prev post about editing*

sde1041 wrote: 

nd4reality wrote:

sde1041 wrote:Reading the US weekly article, it sounds like JP picks no one ...

Anything specific that made you think that ?

I do suspect that there is more drama besides Andi leaving at the end.
Grace and I both heard Clare saying that she need to tell him something and then saying but I thought as though she thought he would appreciate what she told him but he didn't.
So something else causes an upset towards the end for JP and his ending.

It took me some time to find the article, I found it in fact on Reality TV World and not US weekly ...
It was an interview with Chris Harrison who didn't seem very optimistic on the outcome and talking about a rocky final road.
Also,
" Chris Harrison: I think he has a tough letting go and really opening up and giving himself to this process"
(Read more at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

It  made me think that if JP was not really into the process, maybe it's because he didn't really intend to pick someone...Just a thought.  

i think i am on the fence of who the F1 is. (finally!..LOL)

i agree People`s Blog is a good indication of the F1. Frankly last season i relied on it to predict that Chris actually is the F1. The fact that Des and Chris both love writing and very articulate in expressing themself through it, make me convinced about my prediction.

However, this season I know nothing about JPab. but i found his writing about Nikki is too suspicious, to say the least. and then he tweeted this, purposely for his last date (where Nikki got special date in Miami)

Juan Pablo Galavis ‏@JuanPaGalavis  Feb 17
And also the SELFIES and PICTURES I took during FILMING...

Juan Pablo Galavis ‏@JuanPaGalavis  Feb 17
Finishing writing the BLOG for @peoplemag... Every WEEK gets better and LONGER, cause I can tell you MANY things that DON'T air...

The fact that the wrote so much about the thing we ddint see on his date with Nikki make me wonder...Although i know Des has wrote about Brooks hot tub time and even kissing JPab in the igloo that we didnt get to see, she only wrote it in a glimpse, while JPab seems intentionally illustrate his time with Nikki that didnt air in Miami`s date in a melancholic way. LOL...i.e. the sunflower, playing softball and the hat. Just need to add, JPab are going to bring sunflower (flower he likes the most )in Nikki`s HTD . (4: 57) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

In his blog, These particular things make me wonder :
-- He put Nikki 3 times as the title of his paragraph (Nikki gets a rose, Nikki gets an one and one,Surprise for Nikki). Des did too for Chris last season. while Clare gets NONE
--There were no pics of selfie of him and his date, except the one with Nikki on last epis. even the one with Clare is courtesy of ABC, not a selfie.
THESE are quite weird, IMO.

regarding above article, CH did mention that it was the hardest 3 final weeks they have ever seen. Since we know he always tend to overhype, we can believe him or ....not..LOL..

commenting about the preview..nd, i agree with you. im thinking the possibility of Clare went to him to bad-talking about Nikki to only getting back to bite her.  He once spilled that he doesnt like tattle tales, right?.

me think, one of my analysis in edit thread (bomb#4..Nikki get electrified   ) could be referring to the upcoming scenes, where Clare telling JPab about Nikki `s `true color`..that are going to end badly (i also think Clare`s crying in the bed, with her face downward is prolly a `regret` cry)

hmm...Tuesday cant come soon enough

Welcome (partially) to the "other" side!   

Mura..can't quote your post.

But I agree with you in the JP blog he wrote..He seems like he wants to tell us what wasn't shown..and it's all the details about His date with Nikki..he hasn't done that with any other date..JMO..

murasaki1393 wrote:i believe your expertise in editing,JBF... but the People Blog has got me..confused..LOL

so this is my no.2. attempt to be as fair as possible   :

in the preview, Clare blatantly shown confessing ILY....has there been any of the past F1 done this before?

on Des season, i can recall only Zak and Drew did. (preview week 8 and sneak peek finale)

TIA and everybody is welcome to weigh in

Wasn't Chris telling Des in Madeira before hometowns enough? What made me laugh was how Clare said it. "I'm just, like, loving... falling in love with you". Way to go, Clare... FINALLY you are sticking to The Script by correcting yourself in mid-sentence. It is already obvious, borrowing lyrics from Matt White's theme song last saeson, "Oh we came together we were lovin’ on the table, We were lovin’ on the floor, We were lovin’ where it’s able."

JBF wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:i believe your expertise in editing,JBF... but the People Blog has got me..confused..LOL

so this is my no.2. attempt to be as fair as possible   :

in the preview, Clare blatantly shown confessing ILY....has there been any of the past F1 done this before?

on Des season, i can recall only Zak and Drew did. (preview week 8 and sneak peek finale)

TIA and everybody is welcome to weigh in

Wasn't Chris telling Des in Madeira before hometowns enough? What made me laugh was how Clare said it. "I'm just, like, loving... falling in love with you". Way to go, Clare... FINALLY you are sticking to The Script by correcting yourself in mid-sentence. It is already obvious, borrowing lyrics from Matt White's theme song last saeson, "Oh we came together we were lovin’ on the table, We were lovin’ on the floor, We were lovin’ where it’s able."

i was referring to PREVIEW/SNEAK PEEK, prof...NOT the ACTUAL epis

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no Chris's ILY there...    

hoe about Sean,Ben,Jake season?

Yeeeeaaaaahhh... BUT that preview was shown after episode #6, a week earlier. Since we are on the topic, Chris saying it in Madeira was considered additional "proof" he was not F1 and Brooks was. Of course, let's suppose that Clare is F1, then you can easily see what the editors are up to.

Hotmomma wrote:Mura..can't quote your post.

But I agree with you in the JP blog he wrote..He seems like he wants to tell us what wasn't shown..and it's all the details about His date with Nikki..he hasn't done that with any other date..JMO..

yup...Nikki could be the F1 based on ONLY the blog. but i couldnt complete the puzzle piece of Nikki storyline and editing-wise. then again, there was Oceangate accident. so me think he cant write highly about Clare..LOL

or..maybe...JuanPa was really aiming to mislead the readers? ...couldnt tell...plus i dont follow much his background/life before this season

at least, there is something to add to the list : 'why Nikki could be the F1"....upthread...  

JBF wrote:Yeeeeaaaaahhh... BUT that preview was shown after episode #6, a week earlier. Since we are on the topic, Chris saying it in Madeira was considered additional "proof" he was not F1 and Brooks was. Of course, let's suppose that Clare is F1, then you can easily see what the editors are up to.

soo..there is no proven theory for the F1, after all, huh?.....LOL...  . So glad im not invested whatsoever in this season, since im #teamCarla ftw...LOL... :Hugesmile. How about if they call it a crazy season, thus make a super weird editing? much like Ben and Jake?......i just curio of this possibility  :Smiley: