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Post by iamreal2u Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:53 pm

With so much noise, this was a great opportunity to slip in Nikki meeting the family. Next day what will we be talking about 1) Nikki meeting the family 2) Nikki and Clare blowout or 3) Sharleen breaking Juan P's heart.
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Post by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:25 pm

I think Clare will be fine with the Camila comes first situation. She even pretty much stated so in their date last episode. She talked about how she admires Juan for cherishing the bond and love he has with Camila and how she wants the same for her children. Sounds like she gets it.

Also, comparing grown women "fighting" for one mans affection/time/heart on a television show ABOUT THAT and a fathers child is silly. Im sorry but it is. Im sure she can draw the line...noted above.

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Post by rosesrREd Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:36 pm

eversotrue wrote:I think Clare will be fine with the Camila comes first situation. She even pretty much stated so in their date last episode. She talked about how she admires Juan for cherishing the bond and love he has with Camila and how she wants the same for her children. Sounds like she gets it.

Also, comparing grown women "fighting" for one mans affection/time/heart on a television show ABOUT THAT and a fathers child is silly. Im sorry but it is. Im sure she can draw the line...noted above.


I don't know Clare that well to make a judgment on how she will be with Camilla.  However, in her own words, "she bolts when things bother/upset her."  Do you really want someone that will leave when the going gets tough?


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Post by JBF Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:38 pm

She's not going to bolt.

Good to see I'm not alone defending the Princess. Poor gal is getting a beating today because so many feel she is too "possessive" of Juan. *chuckle chuckle*

One good thing... Nikki has a strong enough support system here. She may need it tomorrow and upcoming episodes in case the editors overdo her "negativity" and try to morph her into the next Courtney. At least I do laugh at a few of her comments.
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Post by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:44 pm

Well like you said roses, we dont know Clare enough to make judgements therefore we have NO IDEA in what circumstances she has bolted and what lead to that. Like I said, im sure she can draw the line...especially if she realizes that a child is involved and she wants the love that Juan has for Camila for her own children.


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Post by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:48 pm

JBF, it's not so much that I want to defend Clare...I just want to make a case for everyone. Everyone has different layers to them, good and bad. It's not fair to constantly rag on people and not see what good they might actually have. People are just too mean and negative. I like being a peacemaker...afterall I am a Psychologist. It's always been in me. Guess I picked the right field, huh?

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Post by rosesrREd Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:15 pm

eversotrue wrote:Well like you said roses, we dont know Clare enough to make judgements therefore we have NO IDEA in what circumstances she has bolted and what lead to that. Like I said, im sure she can draw the line...especially if she realizes that a child is involved and she wants the love that Juan has for Camila for her own children.


Those were her words, not mine. She was about to "bolt" from Juan Pablo because she felt he needed to apologize, and be responsible for her emotional well being. I don't know what circumstances make her "bolt" from relationships, but the fact that she felt the need to express that shows her overwhelming desire for everything to be about her.
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Post by Maggenzm Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:35 pm

Mirzam wrote:
JBF wrote:We shall see if we can get a screencap of the 1:45 mark on Part 2 of Kimmel. We can debate here or on the screencap thread if he is hiding the fact that Nikki is F1 or he simply thinks Nikki is coo-coo.

Just what have we been shown that hints that Juan Pablo thinks Nikki is coo-coo exactly? Has Nikki acted coo-coo in front of Juan Pablo, not that I have noticed. The eye roll (IMO) was JP's attempt to make Jimmy Kimmel's pick out to "coo-coo" and very poor attempt at that. Clare and Nikki obviously rubbed each other up the wrong way, but that doesn't make Nikki coo-coo. Clare appears to be more unstable than Nikki frankly who strikes me as a mature 26 year old who knows her strengths and weaknesses and is not afraid to have a joke at her own expense.

I think this conversation between Kat and Kelly took place during the Vietnam group date:

Kate: "[Clare] made it all about her"
Kelly: "Are we noticing a theme here"

Kelly: "We all know she [Clare] is crazy"

Kelly: "We all know she [Clare] is crazy" Not a good description of someone who will take on a role of stepmom!
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Post by Guest Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:41 pm

Opinions, people. So just because Kelly says Clare is crazy, that makes her crazy? Or if Nikki says it or Andi and so on and so forth? Have you all heard of PERCEPTION? It happens every moment of every second.

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Post by JBF Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:48 pm

She's qwaizie in luv, eversotrue. Like a new born giraffe, she can't even walk.
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Post by Mirzam Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:59 pm

eversotrue wrote:Opinions, people. So just because Kelly says Clare is crazy, that makes her crazy? Or if Nikki says it or Andi and so on and so forth? Have you all heard of PERCEPTION? It happens every moment of every second.

Who knows? But the point is the producers/editors felt the need to keep that line in amongst thousand and thousands of hours of video. They work to a storyboard, and it was part of the storyline that they build over the season.
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Post by docnash14 Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:32 pm

eversotrue wrote:JBF, it's not so much that I want to defend Clare...I just want to make a case for everyone. Everyone has different layers to them, good and bad. It's not fair to constantly rag on people and not see what good they might actually have. People are just too mean and negative. I like being a peacemaker...afterall I am a Psychologist. It's always been in me. Guess I picked the right field, huh?

I didn't realize you were a psychologist. So am I. Are you in clinical practice or an academician?

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