*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions

Rolly wrote:Great job in finding that it was Cassandra jumping off of the boat. You are really good at this!

Litta123 what do you mean that maybe you have found the F2, based on the caps? I get lost with all of this sometimes and it's hard to keep up.

F2 meaning just the final 2 girls...not the actual F2 girl. We have screen caps of Clare on what appears to be two different dates in St Lucia, which would make her one of those girls. (Those caps are a boat outing and a top of the mountain shot...Clare is in different outfits and locations...so not likely to be the same date.)

I thought maybe we had two different dates represented in screen caps of Nikki in St Lucia. Based on just discovering that the rappelling date probably took place in Vietnam, that is no longer true for Nikki. We have her horseback riding in St. Lucia, but that's all. So it would appear that Nikki makes it to the final 3 girls, at least. But that's all I feel confident in saying right now.

Rolly, did my answer make sense?

Litta123, yes it makes sense...thanks!   

lexforlife wrote:Who had the bungee jumping date? I thought it was Nikki.

Definitely not Nikki, lex. Caps prove Nikki is on the group date (soccer stadium date). I'm trying to figure out who's on the bungee jump date by process of elimination. I have lot's of caps from the soccer date so we ought to be able to figure out who's there. Cassandra had the other 1-on-1. There is a conversation between Elise and Chelsie about only one of them will be going on the next date in the previews...so I'm wondering if it could be one of them. However, I'm not going to be able to get to those until the morning.

that was such an awkward Jacuzzi scene...not because it got sexy, but because of the language barrier!!!

Litta123 wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Who had the bungee jumping date? I thought it was Nikki.

Definitely not Nikki, lex. Caps prove Nikki is on the group date (soccer stadium date). I'm trying to figure out who's on the bungee jump date by process of elimination. I have lot's of caps from the soccer date so we ought to be able to figure out who's there. Cassandra had the other 1-on-1. There is a conversation between Elise and Chelsie about only one of them will be going on the next date in the previews...so I'm wondering if it could be one of them. However, I'm not going to be able to get to those until the morning.

There is a SC of JP getting out of the car in the same shirt as he has on while bungee jumping. I'll get it tomorrow and we can see if we can spot which girl it is. I'm leaning towards Renee because of the hair color, plus we don't have her in another 1 on 1 and I didn't see her on the soccer date. In the evening 1 on 1, it looks like Elise in that dancing scene. The preview pretty much said it was Elise or Chelsea.

Litta123 wrote:I'm guessing these to be both Cassandra from the evening portion of her date. So does she get the rose? Based on the kissing, I'd say yes, but we don't see a lot of Cassandra in the overseas caps, IIRC. So does Juan let her go, knowing it's hard for her to be away from her son? Clearly from the later caps of his final 6, she's not there.

Playing devil's advocate.    Just wondering how do you know there were only 6 women in Miami? There are caps of what is believed to be Sharleen on her 1-on-1 in Miami and a cap of 4 girls what is believed to be a group date. Why would there only be one other person? Actually, going by the norm there are usually 3 1-on-1s and a group date before the HTDS...  :halo:

chloep wrote:

Litta123 wrote:I'm guessing these to be both Cassandra from the evening portion of her date. So does she get the rose? Based on the kissing, I'd say yes, but we don't see a lot of Cassandra in the overseas caps, IIRC. So does Juan let her go, knowing it's hard for her to be away from her son? Clearly from the later caps of his final 6, she's not there.

Playing devil's advocate.    Just wondering how do you know there were only 6 women in Miami? There are caps of what is believed to be Sharleen on her 1-on-1 in Miami and a cap of 4 girls what is believed to be a group date. Why would there only be one other person? Actually, going by the norm there are usually 3 1-on-1s and a group date before the HTDS...  :halo:

They have never had more than 6 girls / guys on the episode going into HTs. Sometimes they have only 5 (if there is an additional early elimination).

So they have 3 1on1 dates and usually a 3 on 1 or a 2 on 1.

At the Pre-HTD RC only 4 go through to HTs. One of those 4 normally receive a Rose on the group date guaranteeing them a HT visit (like Drew got last season, JP on Ashley's season). The only exception in recent years was Brad / Emily where he went ahead and gave her a rose at the F6 stage so that she could prepare for HTs.

This season they may have a 4 on 1 date and then 2 individual 1on1 dates.

From the caps there is no reason to believe there are more girls in Miami.
I'm guessing here that the "spoilers" have said that there are more girls at this stage ............hence the lead.  

^^Just adding my $0.02...chloep, you're right in pointing out that we don't know that there are only 6 girls in Miami. nd4reality gave a great answer to your question so I'll leave it at that with regards to this show.

I do know that when you're doing a really hard Sudoku puzzle, for example, there are times you have to make a guess or assumption. You go with it until you find a contradiction to your assumption. As nd pointed out, there are no identified caps to contradict this assumption...so I guess I'm going with it until we find out it's flawed.

chloep, I really like when you (or anyone else) asks your questions because, for me, it challenges me to think and look deeper. For example, nd4reality questioned the assumption last night that the rappelling couldn't have taken place in Vietnam. Never in a million years did I think to check that out. Sure enough, my assumption was wrong...so nd got us back on track with her question.

Sooo, please keep checking in and ask away...you playing devil's advocate works for me.  

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We probably should look at the South Korea group date. Is she there as one of the backup dancers?

litta1 - if you have the time to post SCs of both the performance and the GD after party that Clare is having a "discussion" with JP at ? TIA


Are they in the same episode or is one S Korea and the other the GD from Vietnam ?

Litta, you are so right, the body language is so off.

Yes, nd, I will. Give me a little time because I want/need to take new caps so I don't miss anything. I didn't take that many originally of those scenes....but first I have to cut up vegetables for a crockpot dinner.  :Smiley: