Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2

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The first sc 'appears' to be the taken from the tip of Vomo where the FRC occurs, may help us understand location of sunset.

[Living]

1) Remember Ashley had on the same dress for several hours for the FRC.
2) She saw both helicopters in the same dress.
3) She talked to both men in the same dress.
4) It is easy for TPTB to darken or lighten a suit, so BSG and or GSG could be interchanged. (eg. in one shot F1 is in a dark suit. in another he is in a grey suit. And likewise with F2. Until we can define something distinct to differ the suits, means nothing.
5) Someone looking slender or big is relative and on their own in a suit without the other men to compare with means nothing.

Therefore.
1) As pointed out earlier, the white shirt guy arrived between 4 and 5pm.
2) It is possible the plane landing is at about 2. The RC for both guys has previously been done after noon and from my calculations, the F2 would arrive between 1 and 2pm.
3) The fact that Ashley is looking at the plane arriving, does not mean it is the same trip as they show someone alighting.

I do not know who BSG/GSG are. Neither do I know who the white shirt guy is. I only know that the stripped shirt guy is not Ben or Constantine.

[Living]

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The first sc 'appears' to be the taken from the tip of Vomo where the FRC occurs, may help us understand location of sunset.

Great find. We need to know from where the picture was taken. In one, the sun is behind the mountain. in one it is on the right of the mountain above the mountain range we see in Ashley's FRC SC. And, the third, we have to the left of the mountain.

It is important to know where the person was standing as that makes all the difference to where the sun will be.

[nutty1]

Living, I put the pics of her running at about 2pm....do you disagree with that?

[Beeleever]

A big shout out to Living and the rest of you who have worked so hard to figure out this puzzle.

I agree with Living that it is possible for the color of the suits to be photoshopped. We also know from past experience that they absolutely do this. Jawlines, veins in hands, moles, hair (or the lack thereof!) and thumb angles are used to differentiate the men in the caps.

Yay...you guys are awesome! :missclap:

[beader]

I remeasured this morning with a tape measure--I'll go with the "around 2:00" according to the charts.
Which proves--ta da--nothing! Except that those charts are cool!

[Living]

I'll buy that BSG seems to come earlier however I don't quite believe that the guy leaving and Ashley running after isn't later. Her shadow is too long to be early afternoon. I'm also not convinced it's BSG. I still think it could be GSG.

Does it seem to you like the sun is too high to be later?

The clouds are completely different in these shots. I don't think the sun is as high in the 2nd one which is why her shadow is so long.





The clouds in the 3rd pic matches the 4th pic where Ashley's running. I know it looks like the sun is high but if it were right over her, the shadows would be different and you'd see it on more than the back of her head. I think the 2nd set of pics is later in the day and therefore not DSG.

It is true that the 3rd and 4th pictures must be around the same time because of the clouds. But, there is NO evidence to show which guy she was seeing at the time.

[Living]

Living, I put the pics of her running at about 2pm....do you disagree with that?

albean99 got proof of the SC showing it is evening.

Just looked again. From the shadows, it must be evening. But there are some strong rays coming from above. On normal circumstances we should not see the rays of the sun even if it is strong as in midday. My feeling is, they are using the portable lighting as we see in the SC with the same clouds. So it is evening. After 5pm

[mnmhughes]

I'll buy that BSG seems to come earlier however I don't quite believe that the guy leaving and Ashley running after isn't later. Her shadow is too long to be early afternoon. I'm also not convinced it's BSG. I still think it could be GSG.

Does it seem to you like the sun is too high to be later?

The clouds are completely different in these shots. I don't think the sun is as high in the 2nd one which is why her shadow is so long.





The clouds in the 3rd pic matches the 4th pic where Ashley's running. I know it looks like the sun is high but if it were right over her, the shadows would be different and you'd see it on more than the back of her head. I think the 2nd set of pics is later in the day and therefore not DSG.

It is true that the 3rd and 4th pictures must be around the same time because of the clouds. But, there is NO evidence to show which guy she was seeing at the time.

If you look at the picture of the foot, it's obviously Ben that she's running after. I noticed yesterday in the new pic posted by Thebachelortv that Ben has very, very long skinny feet.

[Living]

This appears to be where the sun was when Ashley was chasing after BSG:



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This matches the location of the sun for the DSG caps that I posted above The sun isn't low enough to be GSG yet

And I'm sorry I keep asking, but does anyone know where I can find the full preview that includes both guys?? TIA!

After all of the work that y'all have done to prove this, I am going to be disappointed if I do not get to see every bit of this, including Ashley running after the guy in the Dark Suit or Blue Suit or First Suit or whatever he is called - the one who has fled the scene in which the sun is clearly higher in the sky than it is with the GSG. All of this has been shown to happen, and I want to see it as it happened as it is as integral as the twirl!

Wonderful job! When Ashley starts to run, you can still see the rose in it's place on the coral podium or is it me dreaming that it's still there

Sorry to do this but....

The sun rays do not look real. Take any photograph, search sun rays on the internet, you will not see where the rays are soo distint and obvious. My feeling is they are using extra lightening for the shots and that is the ray we see. The "artificial" sun rays do not match the shadow. If the sun was that high up, it would be 12pm and Ashley would be having no shadow. Here, Ashley's shadow is long and almost full length which shows it is very late in the evening.

[proudmommy50810]

Living, I put the pics of her running at about 2pm....do you disagree with that?

albean99 got proof of the SC showing it is evening.

Just looked again. From the shadows, it must be evening. But there are some strong rays coming from above. On normal circumstances we should not see the rays of the sun even if it is strong as in midday. My feeling is, they are using the portable lighting as we see in the SC with the same clouds. So it is evening. After 5pm

What proof of the SC showing it is evening?? I am so confused....so now we're thinking the running pic is later in the day? I thought we had decided it was the same time of day as the ones with DSG??

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The first sc 'appears' to be the taken from the tip of Vomo where the FRC occurs, may help us understand location of sunset.[/quote]

Great find. We need to know from where the picture was taken. In one, the sun is behind the mountain. in one it is on the right of the mountain above the mountain range we see in Ashley's FRC SC. And, the third, we have to the left of the mountain.

It is important to know where the person was standing as that makes all the difference to where the sun will be.[/quote]




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