Episode 11 (Finale Part 2) - 8/05 - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion - Spoilers

Des finally broke her love pattern. That's the best thing in this finale. Whatever will happen with Chris (because God knows how it's difficult to build a healthy relationship in this show), she did the right decision.

murasaki1393 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think it's clear that Chris was second choice. That being said, so was Molly. It's what happens now that matters. I was a fan of all three so I thoroughly enjoyed the proposal. I do feel the rest of the episode was kinda boring though.

IMO, Molly wasn't second choice but probably was actually Jason's first choice but somewhere along the way whether he talked himself out of it or someone else did(maybe De's visit), and he went with Melissa.  Bottom line, I think Des did the right thing in choosing Chris as there was a love story there from the start - although muddled with Brooks drama.

thanks for being such a trooper Aunties...and yes, including speaking on behalf of us, the Chris shenanigans   . Its just i have more limited English skill to have many conflicting discussions with another contestant's fans...if not..God knows what will happen..LOL....
I look forward to great sleuthing and speculating on future - spoiler free- seasons with you all, the great veterans and awesome sleuthers here.....:Woah-hoo: 

Aww, thanks mura!! Glad that sometimes things work out for the better and that Des and Chris are so happy and obviously in love! Way to go in sticking up for your guy too!!

terabithia wrote:Today was my boyfriend's birthday so I couldn't watch the show live, did I miss anything big?

Ha, kidding! It was his birthday so I didn't watch the show (that'd be torture for him), but I looked at Jokers to quickly see what happened at 7:10 pm west coast time. Not what I expected! Congrats to Fleiss & Co for pulling it off. I don't think a single person said their trusted source revealed she chose Chris?

TPTB had a very cruel edit this season, there's a reason they didn't show us DeAnna telling CH that she was in love with Graham and the other guys were just along for the ride. They protected her so much they even made it look like she rejected Graham at a rose ceremony. I think DeAnna could identify with everything Des went through, but Des defaulted to a good guy (not a Jesse C clone). They can make it work, if Jason and Molly could make it work then it's possible for any couple coming off this show. Previous leads have said they fell in love with their F1 after the show (if it happened at all), so Des and Chris can fall in love now.

Good point. With Jason and Molly in Seattle, Des and Chris will have a great support network as who else should know the major ups and downs of the bach bubble than those two??

IzaLurkin wrote:I wish Chris and Des good luck.  I would have prefered no proposal and just dating, but it is what it is.  Chris is definitely in it for the long haul, no pretense.

Much respect for Brooks for his decision and so very happy he didn't come back.

I agree.

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SafronSahara wrote:All that talk and she still settled. She ain't fooling me . When Brooks walked up on that stage it was so evident Desiree still wanted him. I want to like Chris and Desiree together but I'm not excited about them.  

Yeah she definitely settled, still crying about Brooks all the way to the FRC, look like she wanted to cry tonite. She should have talked to DeAnna...but it is Des life.

Either way, the real relationship starts after the show has finished airing. It sounds like they are giving it a real shot, to discover if they are actually meant to be. They have plenty of time to decide if it really isn't.

If they do get married, then we'll know the Brooks thing was old pattern lust that she fortunately got beyond. I had plenty of those in my dating days, total infatuation for very wrong men. So very happy that I married the man I did - he really is the love of my life. But I never went into that crazy infatuation with him; I felt happy and secure with him from day 1. Sooo very different from my relationships before that. And sooo much better. Des used a lot of the "right" words with Chris, but who knows if they were her real thoughts, or producer lines. If they were her real thoughts, they have a good chance. Her line about finding what she needed instead of what she wanted makes sense and gives me hope. Tempered hope.

Time will tell. I don't think even they know today.

atem wrote:Desiree is always tweeting and putting on instagram for the sun to come out...  Seattle isn't the place for sunshine.

It is actually sunny a lot there, and when the sun is out, it sparkles.

What I had the most trouble adjusting to when I lived there was the north factor, how much shorter the days in the winter were.

Thinking about the WOW on Fleiss getting the better of all the spoilers:

Went back and found a post I wrote last Thursday:

The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #4


Is it possible that every source is being intentionally misled by Fleiss? Of course.

But he hasn't succeeded with that in recent years, and has never seemed too concerned about forums like this one calling it; he just doesn't like the "public" spoilers; so I don't think he'd try to mislead the special inside sources belonging to select members HERE.

But of course its possible.

Just very unlikely.

Too many reliable sources all saying the same thing. I don't think Fleiss could effectively control THAT many people.

It really is "WOW" that he pulled this off. He must have invested an incredible amount of energy into it. I'm surprised. I really didn't think he cared that much.

misticia wrote:Des finally broke her love pattern. That's the best thing in this finale. Whatever will happen with Chris (because God knows how it's difficult to build a healthy relationship in this show), she did the right decision.

It was clear from the beginning how much into Brooks she was so I stopped watching. I'm glad I tuned in tonight nd for me it was a dramatic one. I was fearful that if she ends up with Chris or Drew, they would be sloppy seconds. But it doesn't seems that way.

They should have played "For the First Time" by Kenny Loggins and it would have been so fitting for Chris and Des.

I've lived my entire life in western Washington so I'm very biased, but it's a great place to live if you enjoy camping, hiking, skiing, boating, any outdoorsy activity. I also hope soccer fan Chris takes Des to a Sounders match right away, it's unlike any other sporting event in town and she'll likely be HOOKED! I'll be more surprised if he doesn't insist on going with her ASAP (vs. Timbers later this month would be perfect, over 60,000 tickets already sold that for one).

I think the hardest part will be the same thing that's hard for all relationships that require a big move for the couple to be together: one of them will be in a new city without close friends and family. Well, that and it's a new relationship, a lot of relationships are great for the first few months. Anyway, if she decides she misses her friends (or LA) more than she wants to be in the relationship then there's her answer.

I'd like to preface my post by saying that my feelings on the guys this season was that Chris was my favorite, I didn't mind Brooks and didn't really care for Drew much.

First, loved that the spoilers were wrong... hat's off to MF for that coupe!! RS was MF's main target and the rest who were given false spoilers were casualties in their war.

Second, so happy that Des ended up with Chris but wish it was under different circumstances. I'm not going to conveniently forget about what went down with her and Brooks and how she wanted to go home and how she would tear up every time his name was mentioned. Can a person fall in love a few days after getting their heart tore open? I have a hard time believing it. I think that she wants to be in love real bad with somebody who loves her back... but I don't think that she's there yet. She still has unresolved feelings for Brooks, could see it when she was sitting beside him on the stage last night. I hope it soon fades and she can give her heart to Chris 100% soon.. moving to Seattle will give her them the best chance at making it work. I've always thought that Chris was her best match and wanted her to pick him.... but her heart wasn't there at the time, it was with Brooks. Curious to see how the next 6 months goes... but I wish them all the best as I think they can have a wonderful life together.

I truly, truly enjoyed the way this all went down last night.

What I mean when I say that is there were not two men getting down on bended knee and proposing. I really like that there was only one man left standing at the end of the day.

It is, in my opinion, so unnecessary to put the F2 through the anguish and embarrassment of rejection at the altar. I really hope Fleiss sees that this is a viable alternative and perhaps changes future seasons format to look more like last night and less like prior seasons.

northernviewer wrote:I'd like to preface my post by saying that my feelings on the guys this season was that Chris was my favorite, I didn't mind Brooks and didn't really care for Drew much.

First, loved that the spoilers were wrong... hat's off to MF for that coupe!!  RS was MF's main target and the rest who were given false spoilers were casualties in their war.

Second, so happy that Des ended up with Chris but wish it was under different circumstances.  I'm not going to conveniently forget about what went down with her and Brooks and how she wanted to go home and how she would tear up every time his name was mentioned.  Can a person fall in love a few days after getting their heart tore open?  I have a hard time believing it.  I think that she wants to be in love real bad with somebody who loves her back... but I don't think that she's there yet.  She still has unresolved feelings for Brooks, could see it when she was sitting beside him on the stage last night.  I hope it soon fades and she can give her heart to Chris 100% soon.. moving to Seattle will give her them the best chance at making it work.  I've always thought that Chris was her best match and wanted her to pick him.... but her heart wasn't there at the time, it was with Brooks.  Curious to see how the next 6 months goes... but I wish them all the best as I think they can have a wonderful life together.  

I think we all need to remember that Des and Chris have had three months to develop their relationship without the cameras and the paps. Des is a smart cookie IMO and would not be moving to Seattle unless she had strong feelings for him. That's not to say that it will definitely work for them; but I think they have had some time to get beyond the Brooks heartache and fall in love.