Episode 11 (Finale Part 2) - 8/05 - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion - Spoilers

draven31 wrote:im just past the first half of the Chris date. Wanted to make a couple of comments.  Despite what some may think (I'm only on page 23 now so this may not be happening) I dont really see Chris as a default.  She is dating 2 amazing guys at the same time. She was very hurt by what Brooks did but she knew Chris would not hurt her. She needed to know that she could really love somebody who really loves her in return.  She admitted around the HTD's that she was developing feelings for Chris now with Brooks gone she can really feel them.. Did that make sense at all?  

well put, draven..i will bring your precious post to Chris thread. thnks

Just to add a bit more...

I am NOT saying against anything here, or really even spoilers altogether,at all, by the way! (Nor do I think anyone else is)

That (spoiler vs. sleuthing directly) had started on FORT (and I'm sure elsewhere) long before you guys staretd this place.The whole "culture" of the show had changed to an extent.

San and Love, thank you for the great place you've given us here - I think what many are excited about is that now we get the best of both worlds! You've given us "safe" and friendly place to sleuth, a wonderful community, largely very accurate spoilers, but now knowing that MF isn't above trying to float fake ones, thus bring sleuthing back into the picture with more credibility than it's had with most or in many places these last years.

So thank you for that!

nd4reality wrote:

bleuberry wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I hope RS didn't crap his pants and CV didn't go subconscious.

Someone check on canyonvue, please.

There are others that need TLC as well.

Cannot believe there are so many so bitter.

They should have taken off   then it would be easier LOL.

LOL. But kinda knew it would go there if Brooks wasn't the F1.

Kashathediva wrote:Huge shout out to Aunties___Love! You go, GIRL--you fought hard all season long, too!! Glad to see you shine!   

Awww, Thanks Kasha!! Love to go back to the sleuthing full time next season!!

Love_Me wrote:First of all Congrats to Desiree and Chris. I wish them a lifetime of love and happiness.

My sources this season were wrong. The lack of screencaps showing Brooks at all with Desiree that last week in Antigua should have been a big clue. I can't explain or revel why the spoiler of Brooks being the F1 seemed so accurate. That doesn't really matter now. Everyone has expressed how they want us to sleuth and go back to good old fashioned detective work.

Well, I have good news...that is what I plan on doing for the next Bachelor season.


IMO I don't think Desiree is over Brooks. The edit this season was such a disservice to Chris and Desiree. If we were supposed to be watching a genuine love story unfold I feel cheated. Maybe, I will change my mind after watching this entire season back for a second time.

I am human and we all make mistakes. Unfortunately, I made a big one. You win some and lose some. Life goes on.

Absolutely Love. That is what happens with this crazy show!

As far as changing formats, if it is possible, would there be such a thing as room for the spoilers, etc to stay in one section and sleuthing to stay in another. Somehow the two always get muddled together. Just an idea??????

Pattycake92 wrote:I think it's clear that Chris was second choice. That being said, so was Molly. It's what happens now that matters. I was a fan of all three so I thoroughly enjoyed the proposal. I do feel the rest of the episode was kinda boring though.

IMO, Molly wasn't second choice but probably was actually Jason's first choice but somewhere along the way whether he talked himself out of it or someone else did(maybe De's visit), and he went with Melissa. Bottom line, I think Des did the right thing in choosing Chris as there was a love story there from the start - although muddled with Brooks drama.

Aunties_Love wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

bleuberry wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I hope RS didn't crap his pants and CV didn't go subconscious.

Someone check on canyonvue, please.

There are others that need TLC as well.

Cannot believe there are so many so bitter.

They should have taken off   then it would be easier LOL.

LOL.  But kinda knew it would go there if Brooks wasn't the F1.

Auntie's Love,

Have I told you that I love you?  You have been a champion here.  It has not been easy, that's for sure. But for those of us who spoke our truth as we believed it, this is a moment to savor.  

If some want to be bitter, that's their problem.  There were those of us who didn't buy the love story with Brooks and also said that it wasn't realistic to have him just do a complete about face and come back to propose to Des.  Some of us wanted Des to break her past pattern of picking a guy who didn't love her enough. Well, she seems to have seen the light!  

Chris seems like a man totally in love. I guess he didn't have a problem watching the dumping scene with Des and Brooks. I have to believe that Des talked with him about it after the show ended.  I wish them both good luck.

albean99 wrote:I'm excited about going back to sleuthing, Love. All of the sources were fooled so no apology necessary.

I did see something with Des & Chris and don't feel she's pining for Brooks. I imagine watching did bring some feelings back like it did with Drew. I know she said what she said but I also saw her with Chris on their dates and she seemed very snuggly with him on the recent ones plus he got all water dates from Madeira on. I loved the proposal and I'm usually against them, especially this season.  She seems very happy with Chris and I have hopes for them.

albean,

I am happy for you. I know you were a Chris fan and wanted to believe, but the spoilers made it hard. For all of us. I had hopes for either Chris or Drew until last Monday night when I saw how Des reacted when Brooks left. I could not get past that or the spoilers.

I did try to remind people that Des did say she was falling in love with Chris, even though she said she was already in love with Brooks. There were some clues, but the edit did not show us the real love story.

You were right about the water dates, too.

I always wish the couple only good things, happiness and joy. Chris seems like a man totally and completely in love with Des.

Nativenewyorker wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

bleuberry wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I hope RS didn't crap his pants and CV didn't go subconscious.

Someone check on canyonvue, please.

There are others that need TLC as well.

Cannot believe there are so many so bitter.

They should have taken off   then it would be easier LOL.

LOL.  But kinda knew it would go there if Brooks wasn't the F1.

Auntie's Love,

Have I told you that I love you?  You have been a champion here.  It has not been easy, that's for sure. But for those of us who spoke our truth as we believed it, this is a moment to savor.  

If some want to be bitter, that's their problem.  There were those of us who didn't buy the love story with Brooks and also said that it wasn't realistic to have him just do a complete about face and come back to propose to Des.  Some of us wanted Des to break her past pattern of picking a guy who didn't love her enough. Well, she seems to have seen the light!  

Chris seems like a man totally in love. I guess he didn't have a problem watching the dumping scene with Des and Brooks. I have to believe that Des talked with him about it after the show ended.  I wish them both good luck.

LOL, love you too Native!! It was a hard road at times, fun road more often than not. I am looking forward to going back to the ole time sleuthing and looking for those dang shadows, etc.

Want to wish Des and Chris the best for their futures together. The Pacific Northwest can be rainy, but has so many jewels to explore too!!

Aunties_Love wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:I think it's clear that Chris was second choice. That being said, so was Molly. It's what happens now that matters. I was a fan of all three so I thoroughly enjoyed the proposal. I do feel the rest of the episode was kinda boring though.

IMO, Molly wasn't second choice but probably was actually Jason's first choice but somewhere along the way whether he talked himself out of it or someone else did(maybe De's visit), and he went with Melissa.  Bottom line, I think Des did the right thing in choosing Chris as there was a love story there from the start - although muddled with Brooks drama.

thanks for being such a trooper Aunties...and yes, including speaking on behalf of us, the Chris shenanigans   . Its just i have more limited English skill to have many conflicting discussions with another contestant's fans...if not..God knows what will happen..LOL....
I look forward to great sleuthing and speculating on future - spoiler free- seasons with you all, the great veterans and awesome sleuthers here.....:Woah-hoo: 

Today was my boyfriend's birthday so I couldn't watch the show live, did I miss anything big?

Ha, kidding! It was his birthday so I didn't watch the show (that'd be torture for him), but I looked at Jokers to quickly see what happened at 7:10 pm west coast time. Not what I expected! Congrats to Fleiss & Co for pulling it off. I don't think a single person said their trusted source revealed she chose Chris?

TPTB had a very cruel edit this season, there's a reason they didn't show us DeAnna telling CH that she was in love with Graham and the other guys were just along for the ride. They protected her so much they even made it look like she rejected Graham at a rose ceremony. I think DeAnna could identify with everything Des went through, but Des defaulted to a good guy (not a Jesse C clone). They can make it work, if Jason and Molly could make it work then it's possible for any couple coming off this show. Previous leads have said they fell in love with their F1 after the show (if it happened at all), so Des and Chris can fall in love now.