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Post by misticia Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:31 pm

Isitreal wrote:Wasn't there a different spoiler in the beginning? I've searched for hours and can't find it on here. Does anyone remember?
Drew was the 1st spoiled F1.

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Post by Pattycake92 Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:32 pm

Jeepers wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Jeepers wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:She seems very happy to me. Guess we will see who is right in about a week. Her brother also says she is very happy. I can give you 10 interviews where she seems extremely happy but others will see the same thing and say she is clearly depressed. It's called an "opinion".

Yes, some are just opinions, because people are not very good at reading body language. Other people pick up on body language more readily, especially if they have had life experiences with similar issues.

And YOURS is ALSO just opinion as well. :yes: 
with one exception- I have a degree and  experience in studying people....which helps

So do others here .. That does t make one an expert .. It is still just your opinion...

I also have a degree and 20 years of experience. And others who have read my posts for years know that I am usually spot on. We shall see. yes 
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Post by Pattycake92 Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:33 pm

misticia wrote:
Isitreal wrote:Wasn't there a different spoiler in the beginning?  I've searched for hours and can't find it on here. Does anyone remember?  
Drew was the 1st spoiled F1.

I thought Love Me said that Des was leaning towards picking Drew but quickly corrected that and said that Brooks was F1.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:33 pm

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Post by nannymargie Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:38 pm

Ariela wrote:
Di_ATL wrote:Go read Des, blog, it says it all, find out what happens to Brooks and the remaining men.
She also share alot of little intimate details of their experience along the way like passing notes, etc to share feelings, this is why, I feel they both are so torn and bawling in last nite epi.    

Except for the bolded, I read the same thing and got a totally different feeling than you.
So you think that IF Brooks was fighting these feelings for 3 weeks (per CH), one week will correct it? The huge point is that Brooks was NOT feelin it.

Like I said before: Des is NOT glowing after the show.
So whatever happened, whether she picked someone (Brooks, Chris, Drew) or not she's NOT happy even tho she tries to put on a brave face.

How can they say he was fighting this for 3 weeks. Don't you'll remember how happy he was on the home town date last week. He ran to her and kept kissing her among other things.
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Post by Goldie2 Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:44 pm

Jeepers wrote:CHs comments are sooooo reminiscent of seasons past LOL. The company lines to maintain the mystery .. He says the same thing season after season and encourages the doubting of the lead and so called missed cues LOL
Hi Jeepers ,
I've been around many seasons so a veteran of the " MF machine " and how they like to spin and cast doubt. Haven't posted much this season , but have been around. .

Unless you watched the interview this morning I think hard to interpret what CH was meaning .

I watched it and I am a fan of Des, Brooks , Chris and Drew.

It was not good regarding Brooks.
In fact , it had an underlining tone of things to come -
Even if he returns and they are together this may not end well . CH sees many red flags and a love that is not reciprocated.

Anyone who watched the interview please feel free to respond-
it was not your typical CH spin... It was more negative towards
Brooks than a typical F1 would get a week before FRC if things were rosy now.


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Post by halfpintdynamite Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:45 pm

nutty1 wrote:I am totally confident Brooks returns and proposes.
What I am not confident about is their status right now.

Hi, Nutty!  I just finished reading CH's blog - the first time I've read one of his in a very long time, 'cuz I don't usually believe a word he says, MF puppet that he is!  However, he did say at the MTA that the finale was going to be the most dramatic one ever on this show- and this time he WAS right!  So I read his blog - and here's the link.  Very interesting ponderings about Brooks.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/07/30/chris-harrison-the-bachelorette-finale-part-1-blog/

Hopeless romantic that I am, I do hope Des and Brooks have a truly happy life together, because that what she seems to want. My following observations are based solely on what we have been, and will be, allowed to see:

Brooks is too much work, seems to need a great deal of reassurance, Des gives it to him, yet he seems to need more - all this could be due to abandonment issues in his past. Also, throughout the season I haven't felt the passion from Brooks for Des that I have seen Drew, and Chris to a lesser extent, clearly give to her. I think she was smitten during Brooks and her first 1-on-1, and that didn't allow an open heart and mind for any of the others.

IMO, Brooks has been trying throughout the season to convince himself that he feels the kind of love for Des that a husband should have for his wife, yet he has not truly felt that. I know, maybe he's slower than the other two to get to the "love" stage, but he has to work too hard at it.

This all seems like the perfect scenario to give a promise ring, and date after the show to see where the relationship could go. However, MF hates that outcome so would really push for that not happening again after Brad's first season.

I have mixed feelings about next week - I will hurt most for Drew because this solid, mature, gentle, loving and passionate man put his soul and heart on the line here - so transparent. As for Chris, I know he loved Des but may be relieved by now that he wasn't F1 because he might have had to work too hard to keep Des happy in Seattle when she really prefers the CA area.

Brooks will propose, I have no doubt, so I'll be happy for Des IF Brooks really does love her and their relationship turns into a solid loving long-term one - because that's what she wants. Only time will tell.

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Post by Goldie2 Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:47 pm

nannymargie wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Di_ATL wrote:Go read Des, blog, it says it all, find out what happens to Brooks and the remaining men.
She also share alot of little intimate details of their experience along the way like passing notes, etc to share feelings, this is why, I feel they both are so torn and bawling in last nite epi.    

Except for the bolded, I read the same thing and got a totally different feeling than you.
So you think that IF Brooks was fighting these feelings for 3 weeks (per CH), one week will correct it? The huge point is that Brooks was NOT feelin it.

Like I said before: Des is NOT glowing after the show.
So whatever happened, whether she picked someone (Brooks, Chris, Drew) or not she's NOT happy even tho she tries to put on a brave face.

How can they say he was fighting this for 3 weeks.  Don't you'll remember how happy he was on the home town date last week.  He ran to her and kept kissing her among other things.

CH said on GMA he was considering leaving for 3 weeks.
HTD was what decided it for him.

Did anyone else  find it telling that Brooks said he " was hoping she was into one of the other guys more "?

Not something a guy " in love " would ever say - even if he was confused ....


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Post by Kashathediva Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:49 pm

misticia wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Di_ATL wrote:Go read Des, blog, it says it all, find out what happens to Brooks and the remaining men.
She also share alot of little intimate details of their experience along the way like passing notes, etc to share feelings, this is why, I feel they both are so torn and bawling in last nite epi.    

Except for the bolded, I read the same thing and got a totally different feeling than you.
So you think that IF Brooks was fighting these feelings for 3 weeks (per CH), one week will correct it? The huge point is that Brooks was NOT feelin it.

Like I said before: Des is NOT glowing after the show.
So whatever happened, whether she picked someone (Brooks, Chris, Drew) or not she's NOT happy even tho she tries to put on a brave face.
I don't know why she is not glowing but I'm pretty sure that if I was at the Des' place I would be very stressed that the audience would be upset by my way of leading the show.
It was also pretty obvious that Brooks was freaking out since Madeira and he should have left before F3. The show would have got more dignity.

And what a coincidence, too? Bryden wanted to leave the show a week(episode) before he was "allowed". But of course, it's not storyboarded. D R A M A.
I guess it's a good thing they did not plan on traveling through Europe via train. TPTB would have loved a major derailment.



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Post by black_tears Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:53 pm

Ariela wrote:
Di_ATL wrote:Go read Des, blog, it says it all, find out what happens to Brooks and the remaining men.
She also share alot of little intimate details of their experience along the way like passing notes, etc to share feelings, this is why, I feel they both are so torn and bawling in last nite epi.    

Except for the bolded, I read the same thing and got a totally different feeling than you.
So you think that IF Brooks was fighting these feelings for 3 weeks (per CH), one week will correct it? The huge point is that Brooks was NOT feelin it.

Like I said before: Des is NOT glowing after the show.
So whatever happened, whether she picked someone (Brooks, Chris, Drew) or not she's NOT happy even tho she tries to put on a brave face.

What makes you think that? Just curious since I haven't been following her interviews very closely this season.
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Post by Ariela Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:55 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:
Jeepers wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Jeepers wrote:
Ariela wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:She seems very happy to me. Guess we will see who is right in about a week. Her brother also says she is very happy. I can give you 10 interviews where she seems extremely happy but others will see the same thing and say she is clearly depressed. It's called an "opinion".

Yes, some are just opinions, because people are not very good at reading body language. Other people pick up on body language more readily, especially if they have had life experiences with similar issues.

And YOURS is ALSO just opinion as well. :yes: 
with one exception- I have a degree and  experience in studying people....which helps

So do others here .. That does t make one an expert .. It is still just your opinion...

I also have a degree and 20 years of experience. And others who have read my posts for years know that I am usually spot on. We shall see.  yes 

IF she chose someone, do you think she will say or pretend to be unhappy?  giggling 
And with your degree and experience, you would proceed with Brooks or the others?
I wouldn't.

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Post by Karlee Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:59 pm

Max64 wrote:
Goldie2 wrote:Brooks will be back but as above posters said it will be interesting to see status of their relationship now.

Last night we got 45 minutes of Brooks goodbye. Even if he returns they have set up an "out" for Des to save face in the end if we find out at the ATFR they are not together .

I don't believe he is ready to commit after last night.
Des even said she chooses the guys who can't  reciprocate her love .
On GMA this morning CH said those exact words "Brooks did not reciprocate her love and there were red flags all season Des chose to ignore".
CH did not seem a fan of Brooks today on GMA.

Not a good sign that things are all rosy now

If Brooks was gone for good and did not make a return I doubt TP would have spent that much time on their heartbreaking goodbye.  They would have spent more time pumping up the other two to make either of them a believable F1 at this point.


I agree. I don't remember them spending that much time on it when Frank let Ali go at F3. I do remember for some strange reason though that Des outfit was very similar to the one that Ali had on. Right down to the white shorts. :yes: . Wonder if it's a requirement. giggling

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