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Post by SueSt Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:04 pm

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This is from Drew's dad's FB page.  I won't post any of the other pics but you can go look for yourself.
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still thinking about this picture... and to me it reads like a very strong sign that Drew is F1... I mean if he wasn't F1 would he want to be hanging out with his dad wearing a bachelorette tee shirt?
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Post by BarbB222 Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:07 pm

Could it be he not only learned to kiss from the school of Arie but also how to make money for Charity using Team shirts like Team Sean, Team Arie and Team Jef T's

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Post by SueSt Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:36 pm

I think Drew carries off his own brand of hot kissing... :-)
I can stand behind the money for charity either way, but still question whether he would have his dad wearing it at this point in the season if he wasn't F1
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Post by sfrank Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:44 pm

2observe wrote:
sfrank wrote:
Nativenewyorker wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Did you all hear what she said when leaving Drew ? I could barely hear. But one thing I definitely heard was when he said I love you for the second time and kissed her, then said thank you she said thank you back.
There was another thing she whispered but I couldn't hear.

I know the moment you are talking about. This is when I wish that I had not deleted my recording!  

Someone please tell me that this scene is not seriously intense body language and intimacy! Yet Des doesn't say anything in her blogs about Drew and also doesn't say anything about feelings for Drew to CH!  Am I going crazy? That is distinctly possible!   duh   :crazed 

This is exactly why I'm having a hard time believing Drew is F1...not only is she not saying anything to Chris or in her blogs about how she feels, but they aren't even attributing VOs or PIs to Drew about her talking about her feelings for him. Its just him narrating his own journey.

And to go back to her conversations with Chris H, here's what she says about Drew when they chat about her relationships...we have very clear declarations regarding Brooks and Chris.

Even if we assume that Brooks is gone at F3, her feelings for Drew would need to leapfrog over hers for Chris and given what she has been saying I just don't see it. Her comments about Drew are very nice but lack substance about her feelings. Compare that with what she is saying on camera about Brooks and Chris and there is no comparison. Don't see how she does a complete 360 in Antigua. You also can't ignore the beach shots of her crying next to Drew and him looking a little shellshocked.

Germany - No mention of Drew at all.

Portugal - "Drew is the best looking guy I have ever met but what's so great about him is that he is so sincere in everything he does and you can just see through his eyes how kind he is. (CH: is he husband material) Oh yeah (CH: But he is husband material for you?) That's what I am finding out I really have to discerne my feelings each day to see how I feel about each guy

HTD - "Drew did tells me he loves me. He said it boldly and wasn't hiding it. It was really bold. I can definitely see a potential there"
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And that is why Des' choosing Drew for F1 will seem like it came from out of left field.

There's the unexpected F1 (or hidden) and then there's invisible because its not there. Go back and look at Sean/Cat or Trista/Ryan who were two of the most hidden F1s in the history the show and you will see what I mean. They usually give people a little morsel of something from lead on how they are feeling and they haven't consistently all season long. I have heard more about Drew's "kind eyes" from Des than I have heard even a simple "I really like Drew" from her. I don't see that happening. I  think its Brooks but would see Chris as F1 before Drew, unfortunately. Sorry. 🇳🇴


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Post by BarbB222 Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:45 pm

SueSt wrote:I think Drew carries off his own brand of hot kissing... :-)  
I can stand behind the money for charity either way, but still question whether he would have his dad wearing it at this point in the season if he wasn't F1


Well, Drew is still technically on the show so wearing a team shirt is not abnormal. Or it could be Team Drew for next Bach and in that case, I'm buying a ticket to that show.
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Post by sfrank Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:46 pm

SueSt wrote:I reread Des' people blog about HTDs this afternoon... and it seemed to me she was definitely more positive about Drew's date than the others.
 
She noted about Drew:  
• His entire family was so loving and kind – the type of family you want to be around.
• I could see a more comfortable and charismatic side to him that I had been looking for.
• And the steamy kiss he laid on me as I left was quite memorable too!

Des’ statements about Chris' HTD:
• I enjoyed showing off my baseball skills
• It felt great to know where my relationship stood with Chris and that made me hopeful for the rest of the journey.

And Brooks:  
• It worried me that he still needed reassurance.
• I felt confident in my relationship with Brooks and couldn't wait to see him again.

To me, Des’ comments about Drew and their date use much more positive, personal and active descriptions (family loving and kind, he's charismatic, a great kisser) vs. Chris and Brooks’ more passive descriptions… ('know where my relationship stood', 'made me hopeful', 'worried me that he still needed reassurance', 'confident in my relationship', 'couldn't wait to see him again'... ok that last one is a little more active!! )  

So maybe there's evidence hidden here!!  

I think you left out the most telling line of that entire HTD blog...this one:

After that hometown rose ceremony, I was 100 percent officially in love and feeling good.
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Post by SueSt Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:08 pm

BarbB222 wrote:
SueSt wrote:I think Drew carries off his own brand of hot kissing... :-)  
I can stand behind the money for charity either way, but still question whether he would have his dad wearing it at this point in the season if he wasn't F1


Well, Drew is still technically on the show so wearing a team shirt is not abnormal. Or it could be Team Drew for next Bach and in that case, I'm buying a ticket to that show.

:-) me too!
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Post by SueSt Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:13 pm

sfrank wrote:
SueSt wrote:I reread Des' people blog about HTDs this afternoon... and it seemed to me she was definitely more positive about Drew's date than the others.
 
She noted about Drew:  
• His entire family was so loving and kind – the type of family you want to be around.
• I could see a more comfortable and charismatic side to him that I had been looking for.
• And the steamy kiss he laid on me as I left was quite memorable too!

Des’ statements about Chris' HTD:
• I enjoyed showing off my baseball skills
• It felt great to know where my relationship stood with Chris and that made me hopeful for the rest of the journey.

And Brooks:  
• It worried me that he still needed reassurance.
• I felt confident in my relationship with Brooks and couldn't wait to see him again.

To me, Des’ comments about Drew and their date use much more positive, personal and active descriptions (family loving and kind, he's charismatic, a great kisser) vs. Chris and Brooks’ more passive descriptions… ('know where my relationship stood', 'made me hopeful', 'worried me that he still needed reassurance', 'confident in my relationship', 'couldn't wait to see him again'... ok that last one is a little more active!! )  

So maybe there's evidence hidden here!!  

I think you left out the most telling line of that entire HTD blog...this one:

After that hometown rose ceremony, I was 100 percent officially in love and feeling good.

I left it out because to me it is the big red herring... since we know something is going to happen to change how she feels. The other comments were specific to her interaction on the dates. I stand by the post.
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Post by 2observe Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:06 pm

sfrank wrote:
2observe wrote:
sfrank wrote:
Nativenewyorker wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Did you all hear what she said when leaving Drew ? I could barely hear. But one thing I definitely heard was when he said I love you for the second time and kissed her, then said thank you she said thank you back.
There was another thing she whispered but I couldn't hear.

I know the moment you are talking about. This is when I wish that I had not deleted my recording!  

Someone please tell me that this scene is not seriously intense body language and intimacy! Yet Des doesn't say anything in her blogs about Drew and also doesn't say anything about feelings for Drew to CH!  Am I going crazy? That is distinctly possible!   duh   :crazed 

This is exactly why I'm having a hard time believing Drew is F1...not only is she not saying anything to Chris or in her blogs about how she feels, but they aren't even attributing VOs or PIs to Drew about her talking about her feelings for him. Its just him narrating his own journey.

And to go back to her conversations with Chris H, here's what she says about Drew when they chat about her relationships...we have very clear declarations regarding Brooks and Chris.

Even if we assume that Brooks is gone at F3, her feelings for Drew would need to leapfrog over hers for Chris and given what she has been saying I just don't see it. Her comments about Drew are very nice but lack substance about her feelings. Compare that with what she is saying on camera about Brooks and Chris and there is no comparison. Don't see how she does a complete 360 in Antigua. You also can't ignore the beach shots of her crying next to Drew and him looking a little shellshocked.

Germany - No mention of Drew at all.

Portugal - "Drew is the best looking guy I have ever met but what's so great about him is that he is so sincere in everything he does and you can just see through his eyes how kind he is. (CH: is he husband material) Oh yeah (CH: But he is husband material for you?) That's what I am finding out I really have to discerne my feelings each day to see how I feel about each guy

HTD - "Drew did tells me he loves me. He said it boldly and wasn't hiding it. It was really bold. I can definitely see a potential there"
[/i]

And that is why Des' choosing Drew for F1 will seem like it came from out of left field.

There's the unexpected F1 (or hidden) and then there's invisible because its not there. Go back and look at Sean/Cat or Trista/Ryan who were two of the most hidden F1s in the history the show and you will see what I mean. They usually give people a little morsel of something from lead on how they are feeling and they haven't consistently all season long. I have heard more about Drew's "kind eyes" from Des than I have heard even a simple "I really like Drew" from her. I don't see that happening. I  think its Brooks but would see Chris as F1 before Drew, unfortunately. Sorry. 🇳🇴
If the viewers got any hint at all, then it wouldn't come from out of left field.  For those that focused on Des and Drew's relationship, it wouldn't be a surprise.  I really do think that tptb wanted viewers to focus on Brooks and Chris, but not Drew so that the ending would appear to be out of left field. :Smiley:
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Post by 2observe Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:09 pm

SueSt wrote:
sfrank wrote:
SueSt wrote:I reread Des' people blog about HTDs this afternoon... and it seemed to me she was definitely more positive about Drew's date than the others.
 
She noted about Drew:  
• His entire family was so loving and kind – the type of family you want to be around.
• I could see a more comfortable and charismatic side to him that I had been looking for.
• And the steamy kiss he laid on me as I left was quite memorable too!

Des’ statements about Chris' HTD:
• I enjoyed showing off my baseball skills
• It felt great to know where my relationship stood with Chris and that made me hopeful for the rest of the journey.

And Brooks:  
• It worried me that he still needed reassurance.
• I felt confident in my relationship with Brooks and couldn't wait to see him again.

To me, Des’ comments about Drew and their date use much more positive, personal and active descriptions (family loving and kind, he's charismatic, a great kisser) vs. Chris and Brooks’ more passive descriptions… ('know where my relationship stood', 'made me hopeful', 'worried me that he still needed reassurance', 'confident in my relationship', 'couldn't wait to see him again'... ok that last one is a little more active!! )  

So maybe there's evidence hidden here!!  

I think you left out the most telling line of that entire HTD blog...this one:

After that hometown rose ceremony, I was 100 percent officially in love and feeling good.

I left it out because to me it is the big red herring... since we know something is going to happen to change how she feels. The other comments were specific to her interaction on the dates.  I stand by the post.
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Post by SueSt Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:12 pm

2observe wrote:
SueSt wrote:
sfrank wrote:
SueSt wrote:I reread Des' people blog about HTDs this afternoon... and it seemed to me she was definitely more positive about Drew's date than the others.
 
She noted about Drew:  
• His entire family was so loving and kind – the type of family you want to be around.
• I could see a more comfortable and charismatic side to him that I had been looking for.
• And the steamy kiss he laid on me as I left was quite memorable too!

Des’ statements about Chris' HTD:
• I enjoyed showing off my baseball skills
• It felt great to know where my relationship stood with Chris and that made me hopeful for the rest of the journey.

And Brooks:  
• It worried me that he still needed reassurance.
• I felt confident in my relationship with Brooks and couldn't wait to see him again.

To me, Des’ comments about Drew and their date use much more positive, personal and active descriptions (family loving and kind, he's charismatic, a great kisser) vs. Chris and Brooks’ more passive descriptions… ('know where my relationship stood', 'made me hopeful', 'worried me that he still needed reassurance', 'confident in my relationship', 'couldn't wait to see him again'... ok that last one is a little more active!! )  

So maybe there's evidence hidden here!!  

I think you left out the most telling line of that entire HTD blog...this one:

After that hometown rose ceremony, I was 100 percent officially in love and feeling good.

I left it out because to me it is the big red herring... since we know something is going to happen to change how she feels. The other comments were specific to her interaction on the dates.  I stand by the post.
:yes:   yes
thanks 2observe.  :-)
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Post by Aunties_Love Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:09 am

SueSt wrote:
sfrank wrote:
Nativenewyorker wrote:
nd4reality wrote:Did you all hear what she said when leaving Drew ? I could barely hear. But one thing I definitely heard was when he said I love you for the second time and kissed her, then said thank you she said thank you back.
There was another thing she whispered but I couldn't hear.

I know the moment you are talking about. This is when I wish that I had not deleted my recording!  

Someone please tell me that this scene is not seriously intense body language and intimacy! Yet Des doesn't say anything in her blogs about Drew and also doesn't say anything about feelings for Drew to CH!  Am I going crazy? That is distinctly possible!   duh   :crazed 

This is exactly why I'm having a hard time believing Drew is F1...not only is she not saying anything to Chris or in her blogs about how she feels, but they aren't even attributing VOs or PIs to Drew about her talking about her feelings for him. Its just him narrating his own journey.

And to go back to her conversations with Chris H, here's what she says about Drew when they chat about her relationships...we have very clear declarations regarding Brooks and Chris.

Even if we assume that Brooks is gone at F3, her feelings for Drew would need to leapfrog over hers for Chris and given what she has been saying I just don't see it. Her comments about Drew are very nice but lack substance about her feelings. Compare that with what she is saying on camera about Brooks and Chris and there is no comparison. Don't see how she does a complete 360 in Antigua. You also can't ignore the beach shots of her crying next to Drew and him looking a little shellshocked.

Germany - No mention of Drew at all.

Portugal - "Drew is the best looking guy I have ever met but what's so great about him is that he is so sincere in everything he does and you can just see through his eyes how kind he is. (CH: is he husband material) Oh yeah (CH: But he is husband material for you?) That's what I am finding out I really have to discerne my feelings each day to see how I feel about each guy

HTD - "Drew did tells me he loves me. He said it boldly and wasn't hiding it. It was really bold. I can definitely see a potential there"
[/i]

Per your bolded comments, I've noticed this too and find it very strange.  Since Des' positive body language around Drew (touching, hugging, kissing, etc...) is unmistakable, I have to believe it's some kind of editing that is keeping her comments about Drew from us... Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense!  It's interesting that since airing ABC has posted a number of deleted scenes between Des and Drew which show them building their relationship... so on some level the editors are working to keep their relationship from us... is it because they are together now???  who knows, but it is curious.
I am thinking they(the producers) are riding the Brooks is leaving wave and making it out that he's gone, but secretly because Des has been edited as saying she loves him, the out of left field will be that he doesn't come back and Drew or Chris move in to take Brooks's place in her heart. The behind the scenes editing with the Drew as being the trusted one to be there for her makes me think it will be Drew that will be the F1. I know the second set(Brooks F1) spoilers say one thing, but who knows.


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