Episode 8 (HTD's) - 7/18 - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion - Spoilers

Sprite wrote:

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though.  

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.

I'm curious about the two bolded points.

Why do you think Zak would be exhausting to be married to? I actually think he would be very easy to be married to...for me.

Also, why would Des picking Drew change your opinion of her?...Is it because she would be changing her mind from what she has previously said about being in love with Brooks or is it something to do with Drew himself?

canyonvue wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though.  

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.

Regarding the bolded on Drew's date.  Is that just because she wouldn't of chosen your favorite? By you saying that you are a lot less worried about him "interferring", isn't that kind of harsh as you really don't know the extent that Des is feeling for Drew.  To me, she made it very obvious that she loves kissing him and is feeling a lot for him with how she kept pulling him in for the kisses and may I remind all, not all of them were closed mouth kisses neither.  I think that your assessment of the other HTD's wasn't spot on as I think there was a lot more to them than what you said/willing to see/or just not wanting to admit.  I do see Drew's HTD as one of the warmest heartwarming that there was.  Regarding Brooks HTD, you seemed to be more enamored by his family and him versus Des and the connection they were making.  I realize that Brooks is your fave, but in all honesty, do see some red flags and it might in all likely hood be HIM that causes the rift between them and not Des.  Got one more thing to add, you said that they have always given respect to Brooks in the editing.  What do you think of the respect level that has been given to say Zack and Drew?  I am not asking about Chris as you have made that obvious that you feel he hasn't been given the respect.

I love Brooks and seeing his family just made him clearer to me. I'm definitely HIS fan, but I like Des, too. I hope they're right for each other. I hope it worked out for them on the show and that we're seeing a true love story. But I can see how Des might not be right for him, too, and vice versa. All I hope is that he stuck true to his best judgement, and that the intense ending didn't force him to move faster than he was ready.

I think they've been respectful to Drew all the way through, and Zac, too.

canyonvue wrote:

Sprite wrote:

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though.  

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.

I'm curious about the two bolded points.

Why do you think Zak would be exhausting to be married to? I actually think he would be very easy to be married to...for me.

Also, why would Des picking Drew change your opinion of her?...Is it because she would be changing her mind from what she has previously said about being in love with Brooks or is it something to do with Drew himself?

It wouldn't change my opinion of her. I'd still think she's cute and sweet and everything else. My opinion would change of her if she was mean to Brooks, however, but that's beside the point and probably won't happen.

I'd just have to rethink how I see her. How she portrays herself. I've always seen her as someone who would get along with Brooks, so I'd have to rethink her. That would be quite a change, on her part, I think, to go from Brooks to Drew. Quite a swing.

Zak just has too much energy. For me. Maybe not for her. But for ME he'd be exhausting! I'm an introvert and he would just wear me out with the going and high energy and 30 kids and ice cream and penguin suit. His family is high energy, too.

albean99 wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

atem wrote:It's not that ring!  The ring he gave Desiree was the exact same one from AC.

That's why I would like to see the one he gave Des that he bought in AC to compare.

I just posted the one he gave Des and put it under the SC.  

Sprite wrote:

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though.  

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.

I'm curious about the two bolded points.

Why do you think Zak would be exhausting to be married to? I actually think he would be very easy to be married to...for me.

Also, why would Des picking Drew change your opinion of her?...Is it because she would be changing her mind from what she has previously said about being in love with Brooks or is it something to do with Drew himself?

Aunties_Love wrote:

nutty1 wrote:it wasn't even shown on the regular show, just a deleted scene.

The buying of the ring or the tossing of the ring out of the limo?

nutty1 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

nutty1 wrote:it wasn't even shown on the regular show, just a deleted scene.

The buying of the ring or the tossing of the ring out of the limo?

The buying of it.

Aunties_Love wrote:

canyonvue wrote:

Sprite wrote:

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though.  

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.

I'm curious about the two bolded points.

Why do you think Zak would be exhausting to be married to? I actually think he would be very easy to be married to...for me.

Also, why would Des picking Drew change your opinion of her?...Is it because she would be changing her mind from what she has previously said about being in love with Brooks or is it something to do with Drew himself?

It wouldn't change my opinion of her. I'd still think she's cute and sweet and everything else. My opinion would change of her if she was mean to Brooks, however, but that's beside the point and probably won't happen.

I'd just have to rethink how I see her. How she portrays herself. I've always seen her as someone who would get along with Brooks, so I'd have to rethink her. That would be quite a change, on her part, I think, to go from Brooks to Drew. Quite a swing.

Zak just has too much energy. For me. Maybe not for her. But for ME he'd be exhausting! I'm an introvert and he would just wear me out with the going and high energy and 30 kids and ice cream and penguin suit. His family is high energy, too.

Sorry for picking on you, but I have another question for you.  What do you mean that it would be quite a swing and change to go from Brooks to Drew.  From what I see, they are two goodlooking guys, are nice and although Brooks doesn't open up much about his deeper feelings versus Drew that has been very open about his feelings, I think they are both pretty good guys.  So what the heck means that it would be a real change?

gabriele wrote:

albean99 wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

atem wrote:It's not that ring!  The ring he gave Desiree was the exact same one from AC.

That's why I would like to see the one he gave Des that he bought in AC to compare.

I just posted the one he gave Des and put it under the SC.  

the pic isn't there for me just that tiny blue square.

albean99 wrote:

gabriele wrote:

albean99 wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

atem wrote:It's not that ring!  The ring he gave Desiree was the exact same one from AC.

That's why I would like to see the one he gave Des that he bought in AC to compare.

I just posted the one he gave Des and put it under the SC.  

the pic isn't there for me just that tiny blue square.

See if this will work. The top one is the ring Zak gave to Des.
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