Episode 8 (HTD's) - 7/18 - Bachelorette 9 - Discussion - Spoilers

albean99 wrote:Never mind.  I see you're right. Nice to know for sure. It must be Chris as we thought in the beginning until we talked ourselves into it being Zak.  :Nod: 

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It matters because it's proof of someone being in the f2, LLiza. If it were Brooks we'd know he was for sure at the FRC. Ditto for Drew. We're pretty sure already that Chris is there so is less a big deal. At least we know Zak won't be showing up now.

LLiza wrote:I cannot for the life of me figure out what the ring(s) have anything to do with the rest of the story.  What am I missing??  

atem wrote:It's not that ring!  The ring he gave Desiree was the exact same one from AC.

nannymargie wrote:

atem wrote:It's not that ring!  The ring he gave Desiree was the exact same one from AC.

That's why I would like to see the one he gave Des that he bought in AC to compare.

canyonvue wrote:I have yet to give my opinion of the episode yesterday. I've just been responding to everyone else.

Zac: I never thought she'd end up with him. I don't think he'd make a good Bachelor. He would be exhausting to be married to.  

Drew: He is in love for the first time. That means it probably wouldn't last. I'm now a lot less worried about him "interfering" with her and Brooks. Of course, he could be one of the twists. If she chooses him I'd have to rethink Desiree.

Chris: They're making fun of him. I've noticed it several times before, all the way to the early part of the season. They wouldn't make fun of the F1 like that. Cue: relief. I don't understand why they're making fun of him, though. He seems too nice to be made fun of.

Brooks: (This will be a long one) His HTD could not have been any better. They've always shown Brooks as having a conflict (being the first date, a broken finger keeping him from the RC—cue the hero returns music; slow to the finish line, fear of getting his heart broken), but they've always given him respect in the editing. And attention. I'm grateful for that.

I loved that he almost dumped them in the lake. That couldn't have been any more perfect. I was hoping they'd fall all the way in, though.  

I love that he told his family that he likes kissing Des, so blatantly. Well, I guess that question's answered.

No wonder his family means so much to him. I think he's lucky to have them.

The home for his date was amazing. That view.

Brooks had a lot he was hiding because his family's extraordinary. He has hidden depths.

Des said she liked that he still managed to be adorable when he was lying on the ground with a broken finger, in pain. Ahhh.

The gallant man waving goodbye to her and running his fingers through his hair.

I even loved the sweater he wore. He has interesting style, but sometimes it's a definite hit.

His mom is a strong leader and he adores her. She trusts his judgement completely, which makes him trustworthy. His sister is striking and direct with her brother; his brothers are fun and sarcastic, just like him, and want to know if she can "hang" with him, because they think their brother is a catch. They also want to thank her for "not being a waste of time." The Foresters are amazing.

But all of this did make me wonder about Des. His family is amazing. Seeing Brooks in his element made him look different, gave him new depths. DOES she really fit into his life? CAN she really "hang" with Brooks, or, *gasp* is he actually too good for her?

She always loves the wrong men.

Would he want to align himself with her bullying brother? Or, will her creeper brother (lurking in the doorway is funny) become noble and play the hero in the end? (Making her seem slightly more equal). Yes, if her brother did Brooks a good turn, his own sister a good turn, that might start to equal out the scale a little more.

Did he make a decision out of true love and the knowledge that he should be with her forever? I hope someday he finds that, that's for sure.

RC: They showed Brooks commenting about Zac, more than once, which I thought was interesting and just another strange change this season. Brooks is thinking when he says it, and frankly, I like thinking Brooks, a lot. Don't change, Brooks.

Coming Up: Brooks says something, feels a certain way and Des doesn't like it. She is angry/hurt, storms off. He is blindsided and beside himself wondering how he can fix it/if he'll lose her. He leaves. She's sad. This lover's rift won't last.

nutty1 wrote:I am always amazed (and it happens every season) at people who want their favorite to win and get the girl (or guy). But if the favorite doesn't win, all of a sudden the lead is no good. But this is the same person you wanted your favorite with!! I'll never understand, LOL.

Jeepers wrote:His comment is very neutral .. How the heck do you get Chris out of that .. They are ALL nice guys

albean99 wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

atem wrote:It's not that ring!  The ring he gave Desiree was the exact same one from AC.

That's why I would like to see the one he gave Des that he bought in AC to compare.

I just posted the one he gave Des and put it under the SC.  

Kashathediva wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I do not personally think the franchise allowed Wetpaint to see the rings that were selected in Antigua by the final 2 guys. First, one ring immediately went back to production and to Neil Lane upon that gentleman's rejection.
Secondly, it is not a far jump to think very generalized descriptions of the ring were given (if a description other than price and carats for each were given) and Wetpaint then supplied pictures of what they thought the rings looked like.

How do you know one went back to production? I am Not being ugly just asking how you know this.

If that is the case Wetpaint should not put up pictures until they see the actual ring.

No ugliness interpreted. :Smiley: 
IF the F2 (who had a ring to propose) was rejected--and the ring was valued as Wetpaint suggested--don't you think it went back to production to Neil Lane immediately? The F2 didn't keep it, it was not his to keep, it was Neil Lane's.
As it is, almost immediately upon completion of show(FRC/return to the states) the real ring involved at the FRC is taken back each season by production until after the ATFR is aired. The couple does not have the ring in possession.
I can't see the Machine letting Wetpaint "see" the rings. It may offer up some vague descriptive info but that's all I see.
Wetpaint has been wrong with info many times, even just recently printing the FRC this season taking place in Curacao vs Antigua.

nutty1 wrote:it wasn't even shown on the regular show, just a deleted scene.