Bachelorette 9 - Filming Schedule - Discussion

Lucas15 wrote:

sfrank wrote:I think something strange happens but its not nearly as dramatic as we think...if you listen to him he sounds relatively nonchalant and indifferent about it. This guy is supposed to be selling the show! And he doesn't sound like the giddy schoolgirl he should be for a guy who has another "Mesnick" in his lap which means RATINGS, baby! If you were on boards, then I don't have to tell you how HUGE that was online and across the media spectrum. In fact the "Mesnick" is what truly got the tabloids interested in the show! Frankly, I think Jason got off lucky that it happened back then and not now which would be MUCH worse with social media what it is today.

I was on the boards then and remember things well. But the thing was that MF really was pretty nonchalant about what he had on film, at least initially. In an interview he all he said was that he expected to see a wedding because the couple seemed very much in love. At the time I knew Jason had picked Melissa and simply assumed that MF was talking about Jason & Melissa but later on learned that he was really talking about Jason and Molly because the interview took place AFTER the breakup had been filmed. Harrison was similarly nonchalant and only said that what Jason did took guts which made no sense to me at the time and only did after I learned about the breakup.

That season got huge online only after RS revealed that there was a breakup and switch of who Jason was with; before that was known TPTB were pretty tame about what they knew to be an explosive ending.

"[If] I'm the boy that cried wolf [before], well this time it's a wolf." "It's five wolves, it's a pack of wolves! I'm telling you, money back guarantee. If anyone thinks this isn't the most shocking The Bachelor ever, you have them call me, because I'll want to know why, because it is, it most definitely is. I don't even think there [has been] anything close." "It's astonishing, and whatever you think it is, you can't be completely right, there's no way."

atem wrote:Could the show just cut that portion out and pretend we didn't hear it in the first place?

moonpie wrote:I agree with you, sfrank, about Fleiss being a salesman for the show. In fact, he oversells. The whole interview is up on ew.com. In it, he says that the season really starts with the next episode because of the drama surrounding the guy with a girlfriend. He says that it's crazy, almost violent, like no confrontation they've had on the show before. To top it off, Des really cares about the guy. Whaaat? Brian? The same guy we've seen a minute of on-screen? The previews certainly don't make it seem like the confrontation is out of control. Fleiss is a hype machine.

The interview is interesting to listen to in its entirety though.

Kashathediva wrote:

moonpie wrote:I agree with you, sfrank, about Fleiss being a salesman for the show. In fact, he oversells. The whole interview is up on ew.com. In it, he says that the season really starts with the next episode because of the drama surrounding the guy with a girlfriend. He says that it's crazy, almost violent, like no confrontation they've had on the show before. To top it off, Des really cares about the guy. Whaaat? Brian? The same guy we've seen a minute of on-screen? The previews certainly don't make it seem like the confrontation is out of control. Fleiss is a hype machine.

The interview is interesting to listen to in its entirety though.

I agree. MF has to be taken with a boulder of salt. Here again he is selling the BP after the show has been cancelled...say what??? Because ya never know??? RIGHT--so let's give it one more plug. He has no way of knowing if that show(BP) will ever be resurrected especially to be saying next year?? C'mon man!! Sell a bridge! And then to diss the cast ---as the reason it's pfffft. Let's do the limbo, Mikey--how low can you go--you freakin picked this cast!! In some cases more than twice. It's not like the cast came in with assault weapons and camo holding the machine and OZ hostage to produce BP.

And for those of you that still think the object of this show is a love story and romance: listen to MF once again. He wants entertainment---he wants the crazy, he wants the hyperbole. If the romance happens and it entertains you great, but he could care less. R A T I N G S. That is the god MF bows down to.

pavalygurl wrote:I did go back and look at some notes I have and reviewed posts. I just don't know. I think there is a lot of time from April 23 when we believe the F4-F3 RC until possibly May 6-7-8 when we think the FRC took place. It is about two weeks.
I re-read some of RS' stuff and when he first posted, he did not know who was cut at F4-F3. Later he said it was Drew. Now we know Drew was in Antigua because of the fine sleuthing julychild and momoftrips were able to do with the picture.
Did they travel somewhere besides Antigua/Barbuda which took up extra time? We heard there was an earthquake in the area on April 30, but why wouldn't they say if this delayed filming???
I am just speculating here but what if they finally are hiding the ending from everyone. What if they filmed two or three "FRC" and only one is the true one. It would account for a weird ending, and Fleiss saying the guys weren't happy. Des may or may not be happy about it. Fleiss claims not to know.
It still doesn't account for what I think is a lot of time, but it could account for some of what he said on the interview. How they got the guys to co-operate is questionable, IDK.

atem wrote:We already know what MF is after. I just want to know why he would say 'weird', coming out of 'left field.'

Does the EW interview have a transcript?

Kashathediva wrote:

moonpie wrote:I agree with you, sfrank, about Fleiss being a salesman for the show. In fact, he oversells. The whole interview is up on ew.com. In it, he says that the season really starts with the next episode because of the drama surrounding the guy with a girlfriend. He says that it's crazy, almost violent, like no confrontation they've had on the show before. To top it off, Des really cares about the guy. Whaaat? Brian? The same guy we've seen a minute of on-screen? The previews certainly don't make it seem like the confrontation is out of control. Fleiss is a hype machine.

The interview is interesting to listen to in its entirety though.

I agree. MF has to be taken with a boulder of salt. Here again he is selling the BP after the show has been cancelled...say what??? Because ya never know??? RIGHT--so let's give it one more plug. He has no way of knowing if that show(BP) will ever be resurrected especially to be saying next year?? C'mon man!! Sell a bridge! And then to diss the cast ---as the reason it's pfffft. Let's do the limbo, Mikey--how low can you go--you freakin picked this cast!! In some cases more than twice. It's not like the cast came in with assault weapons and camo holding the machine and OZ hostage to produce BP.

And for those of you that still think the object of this show is a love story and romance: listen to MF once again. He wants entertainment---he wants the crazy, he wants the hyperbole. If the romance happens and it entertains you great, but he could care less. R A T I N G S. That is the god MF bows down to.