Bachelorette 9 - Filming Schedule - Discussion

canyonvue wrote:

freelancergirl wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

freelancergirl wrote:I think he may leave but the preview could easily be edited out of order: ie, someone tells Brookes that Des needs to talk to him, he paces outside of his villa thinking she's dumping him, he gets in the limo and is teary on his way to see her, they talk etc. The power-that-be created the scenario that we get from the preview...it may not have gone down that way at all.

As far as the caps from other dates, again, that plays into whatever the PTB want to show us.

Curious: do we think Des would get engaged to a guy without meeting the family?

A couple of thoughts; Why do the other two have fd's and lcd's and not Brooks.  Never before has there been 3 guys receiving lcd's.  Now what about her sitting on the pier heartbroken though.

I wasn't certain that Drew does have a LCD...I thought that there was still a lot of speculation about that. But regardless, I'm only suggesting that the producers offer an edit in the preview, and we are meant to believe that edit...and it's easier TO believe it until we actually see it unfold. Chronology can be easily manipulated, and yet because it's what they've presented to us, it's what most believe. (Until the actual episodes air...when we see how different things actually are.) (And - not to get too parenthetical here - but even then, we really only see what they want us to see anyway.)

That is my question. Is it absolutely certain that Drew does get an LCD?

lavenderred wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that gor her.

Exactly IG, I keep wondering what reason he could come up for leaving that when she takes him back won`t make her not look completely like a pushover and cannot come up with a single one. But this as well as a slew of other `holes`are frequently brushed aside to the point that it gets a bit ridiculous.

But Des was a complete pushover (or more likely a scripted one) as shown by how many chances she gave James (producers in her ear). Most with free will would have ditched him the first time they talked to him at the group date after party. If Brooks did leave whatever was the scripted reason he hung out in another section of The Verandah for a couple days the writers would have known exactly what Des buttons to push for her to take him back. Brooks's scripted over-the-top everything-but-the-kitchen sink first date worked like a charm and now all the writers had to do was pull it all back together again. Des (the script) set the pushover precedent with James so taking back Brooks would be consistent.

I've read this all day but I'll say it again, there will be a lot of backlash, more than usual, if she took Brooks back at the last moment.

Aunties_Love wrote:

canyonvue wrote:

freelancergirl wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

freelancergirl wrote:I think he may leave but the preview could easily be edited out of order: ie, someone tells Brookes that Des needs to talk to him, he paces outside of his villa thinking she's dumping him, he gets in the limo and is teary on his way to see her, they talk etc. The power-that-be created the scenario that we get from the preview...it may not have gone down that way at all.

As far as the caps from other dates, again, that plays into whatever the PTB want to show us.

Curious: do we think Des would get engaged to a guy without meeting the family?

A couple of thoughts; Why do the other two have fd's and lcd's and not Brooks.  Never before has there been 3 guys receiving lcd's.  Now what about her sitting on the pier heartbroken though.

I wasn't certain that Drew does have a LCD...I thought that there was still a lot of speculation about that. But regardless, I'm only suggesting that the producers offer an edit in the preview, and we are meant to believe that edit...and it's easier TO believe it until we actually see it unfold. Chronology can be easily manipulated, and yet because it's what they've presented to us, it's what most believe. (Until the actual episodes air...when we see how different things actually are.) (And - not to get too parenthetical here - but even then, we really only see what they want us to see anyway.)

That is my question. Is it absolutely certain that Drew does get an LCD?

I thought it was from what was found earlier tonight.  I could be wrong, but I thought there were two different dates based on clothing worn and locations of the dates.

lavenderred wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that gor her.

Exactly IG, I keep wondering what reason he could come up for leaving that when she takes him back won`t make her not look completely like a pushover and cannot come up with a single one. But this as well as a slew of other `holes`are frequently brushed aside to the point that it gets a bit ridiculous.

But Des was a complete pushover (or more likely a scripted one) as shown by how many chances she gave James (producers in her ear). Most with free will would have ditched him the first time they talked to him at the group date after party. If Brooks did leave whatever was the scripted reason he hung out in another section of The Verandah for a couple days the writers would have known exactly what Des buttons to push for her to take him back. Brooks's scripted over-the-top everything-but-the-kitchen sink first date worked like a charm and now all the writers had to do was pull it all back together again. Des (the script) set the pushover precedent with James so taking back Brooks would be consistent.

I've read this all day but I'll say it again, there will be a lot of backlash, more than usual, if she took Brooks back at the last moment.

sfrank wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that got her.

First time I've agreed with you all season on Brooks, Irish...in fact, I said something similar in the BF thread earlier tonight:

I hate to think Brooks leaves but the evidence is just too overwhelming on that side after last night's preview. If he does leave, IMHO, it needs to and MUST be a darn good excuse (and it better not be that his needy co-workers just couldn't cope anymore).

I am hoping that its not because he is suddenly calling his feelings or hers into question. Otherwise, I don't think either of them looks too good...he would look weak, wishy-washy and unreliable and so would she for taking him back while Chris and Drew have been loyal and been there for her without wavering.  Also, I don't know in which version of this "Cinderella" fairy tale the prince questions his feelings for her or vice versa and then leaves even just of a little while  

MFs words are still in the back of my mind..."weirdest ending"..."out of left field"..."doesn't make sense"..."doesn't know if guys or Des are happy with it". Have a strange feeling that Brooks is NOT one of the  "guys" he is referring to and its likely Drew and Chris.  Additionally, CH calling Brooks an "enigma" and maybe "just going through the motions" kinda sets up that storyline, unfortunately. All these statements don't point to him leaving for something out of his control and/or an emergency. But MF and CH are slicker than snot on a doorknob so two things keep me hopeful...

The first is that I truly believe Brooks is a good & genuine guy and knowing all that she has already been through during the process (Ben, Bryden, James) how could he purposely  hurt her by just giving up and leaving?! The second is that its Brooks own words..."Worst Day of My Life" -- would he say this if HE is the one that as orchestrated all of the drama of the day by leaving?  Doesn't make sense but I guess we will have to wait and see but until then I remain cautiously optimistic!

nd4reality wrote:

sfrank wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that got her.

First time I've agreed with you all season on Brooks, Irish...in fact, I said something similar in the BF thread earlier tonight:

I hate to think Brooks leaves but the evidence is just too overwhelming on that side after last night's preview. If he does leave, IMHO, it needs to and MUST be a darn good excuse (and it better not be that his needy co-workers just couldn't cope anymore).

I am hoping that its not because he is suddenly calling his feelings or hers into question. Otherwise, I don't think either of them looks too good...he would look weak, wishy-washy and unreliable and so would she for taking him back while Chris and Drew have been loyal and been there for her without wavering.  Also, I don't know in which version of this "Cinderella" fairy tale the prince questions his feelings for her or vice versa and then leaves even just of a little while  

MFs words are still in the back of my mind..."weirdest ending"..."out of left field"..."doesn't make sense"..."doesn't know if guys or Des are happy with it". Have a strange feeling that Brooks is NOT one of the  "guys" he is referring to and its likely Drew and Chris.  Additionally, CH calling Brooks an "enigma" and maybe "just going through the motions" kinda sets up that storyline, unfortunately. All these statements don't point to him leaving for something out of his control and/or an emergency. But MF and CH are slicker than snot on a doorknob so two things keep me hopeful...

The first is that I truly believe Brooks is a good & genuine guy and knowing all that she has already been through during the process (Ben, Bryden, James) how could he purposely  hurt her by just giving up and leaving?! The second is that its Brooks own words..."Worst Day of My Life" -- would he say this if HE is the one that as orchestrated all of the drama of the day by leaving?  Doesn't make sense but I guess we will have to wait and see but until then I remain cautiously optimistic!

That could be exactly what MF has been talking about. Des taking Brooks back at some point.

Either way the viewing audience would be left with chalk in their mouth. In a season that is already low in viewership that would be the ultimate nail in the coffin for this season of the Bachelorette. JMO.

murasaki1393 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

sfrank wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that got her.

First time I've agreed with you all season on Brooks, Irish...in fact, I said something similar in the BF thread earlier tonight:

I hate to think Brooks leaves but the evidence is just too overwhelming on that side after last night's preview. If he does leave, IMHO, it needs to and MUST be a darn good excuse (and it better not be that his needy co-workers just couldn't cope anymore).

I am hoping that its not because he is suddenly calling his feelings or hers into question. Otherwise, I don't think either of them looks too good...he would look weak, wishy-washy and unreliable and so would she for taking him back while Chris and Drew have been loyal and been there for her without wavering.  Also, I don't know in which version of this "Cinderella" fairy tale the prince questions his feelings for her or vice versa and then leaves even just of a little while  

MFs words are still in the back of my mind..."weirdest ending"..."out of left field"..."doesn't make sense"..."doesn't know if guys or Des are happy with it". Have a strange feeling that Brooks is NOT one of the  "guys" he is referring to and its likely Drew and Chris.  Additionally, CH calling Brooks an "enigma" and maybe "just going through the motions" kinda sets up that storyline, unfortunately. All these statements don't point to him leaving for something out of his control and/or an emergency. But MF and CH are slicker than snot on a doorknob so two things keep me hopeful...

The first is that I truly believe Brooks is a good & genuine guy and knowing all that she has already been through during the process (Ben, Bryden, James) how could he purposely  hurt her by just giving up and leaving?! The second is that its Brooks own words..."Worst Day of My Life" -- would he say this if HE is the one that as orchestrated all of the drama of the day by leaving?  Doesn't make sense but I guess we will have to wait and see but until then I remain cautiously optimistic!

That could be exactly what MF has been talking about. Des taking Brooks back at some point.

Either way the viewing audience would be left with chalk in their mouth. In a season that is already low in viewership that would be the ultimate nail in the coffin for this season of the Bachelorette. JMO.

im leaning more toward that he will interrupt Chris's solo FRC. still fit with the description above. and fit with no-tears rubbing eyes scene of Chris in the limo (its likely they will send Chris somewhere during the interruption). I do think Drew and Chris who will be at MTP, since Drew has 2 LCDs. Des will pull a Chris Lambton on Drew. oh, and i think Des wont take Brooks back. they might gunning him as the next bachelor, instead. Its win-win, as James said   

nd4reality wrote:

sfrank wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that got her.

First time I've agreed with you all season on Brooks, Irish...in fact, I said something similar in the BF thread earlier tonight:

I hate to think Brooks leaves but the evidence is just too overwhelming on that side after last night's preview. If he does leave, IMHO, it needs to and MUST be a darn good excuse (and it better not be that his needy co-workers just couldn't cope anymore).

I am hoping that its not because he is suddenly calling his feelings or hers into question. Otherwise, I don't think either of them looks too good...he would look weak, wishy-washy and unreliable and so would she for taking him back while Chris and Drew have been loyal and been there for her without wavering.  Also, I don't know in which version of this "Cinderella" fairy tale the prince questions his feelings for her or vice versa and then leaves even just of a little while  

MFs words are still in the back of my mind..."weirdest ending"..."out of left field"..."doesn't make sense"..."doesn't know if guys or Des are happy with it". Have a strange feeling that Brooks is NOT one of the  "guys" he is referring to and its likely Drew and Chris.  Additionally, CH calling Brooks an "enigma" and maybe "just going through the motions" kinda sets up that storyline, unfortunately. All these statements don't point to him leaving for something out of his control and/or an emergency. But MF and CH are slicker than snot on a doorknob so two things keep me hopeful...

The first is that I truly believe Brooks is a good & genuine guy and knowing all that she has already been through during the process (Ben, Bryden, James) how could he purposely  hurt her by just giving up and leaving?! The second is that its Brooks own words..."Worst Day of My Life" -- would he say this if HE is the one that as orchestrated all of the drama of the day by leaving?  Doesn't make sense but I guess we will have to wait and see but until then I remain cautiously optimistic!

That could be exactly what MF has been talking about. Des taking Brooks back at some point.

Either way the viewing audience would be left with chalk in their mouth. In a season that is already low in viewership that would be the ultimate nail in the coffin for this season of the Bachelorette. JMO.

2observe wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

sfrank wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that got her.

First time I've agreed with you all season on Brooks, Irish...in fact, I said something similar in the BF thread earlier tonight:

I hate to think Brooks leaves but the evidence is just too overwhelming on that side after last night's preview. If he does leave, IMHO, it needs to and MUST be a darn good excuse (and it better not be that his needy co-workers just couldn't cope anymore).

I am hoping that its not because he is suddenly calling his feelings or hers into question. Otherwise, I don't think either of them looks too good...he would look weak, wishy-washy and unreliable and so would she for taking him back while Chris and Drew have been loyal and been there for her without wavering.  Also, I don't know in which version of this "Cinderella" fairy tale the prince questions his feelings for her or vice versa and then leaves even just of a little while  

MFs words are still in the back of my mind..."weirdest ending"..."out of left field"..."doesn't make sense"..."doesn't know if guys or Des are happy with it". Have a strange feeling that Brooks is NOT one of the  "guys" he is referring to and its likely Drew and Chris.  Additionally, CH calling Brooks an "enigma" and maybe "just going through the motions" kinda sets up that storyline, unfortunately. All these statements don't point to him leaving for something out of his control and/or an emergency. But MF and CH are slicker than snot on a doorknob so two things keep me hopeful...

The first is that I truly believe Brooks is a good & genuine guy and knowing all that she has already been through during the process (Ben, Bryden, James) how could he purposely  hurt her by just giving up and leaving?! The second is that its Brooks own words..."Worst Day of My Life" -- would he say this if HE is the one that as orchestrated all of the drama of the day by leaving?  Doesn't make sense but I guess we will have to wait and see but until then I remain cautiously optimistic!

That could be exactly what MF has been talking about. Des taking Brooks back at some point.

Either way the viewing audience would be left with chalk in their mouth. In a season that is already low in viewership that would be the ultimate nail in the coffin for this season of the Bachelorette. JMO.

im leaning more toward that he will interrupt Chris's solo FRC. still fit with the description above. and fit with no-tears rubbing eyes scene of Chris in the limo (its likely they will send Chris somewhere during the interruption). I do think Drew and Chris who will be at MTP, since Drew has 2 LCDs. Des will pull a Chris Lambton on Drew. oh, and i think Des wont take Brooks back. they might gunning him as the next bachelor, instead. Its win-win, as James said   

How did Drew get 2 LCDs???  I recall Drew getting a FD and a LCD date.

Kashathediva wrote:

lavenderred wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

IrishGal wrote:So if he leaves without an emergency, why ever would she take him back?  She needs to be able to count on her man. We all do. I know this website is filled with Brooks fans ever since he was the spoiled F1...but really?  You'd take a guy back after he left you high and dry on national TV?  I know Jillian did it and look where that gor her.

Exactly IG, I keep wondering what reason he could come up for leaving that when she takes him back won`t make her not look completely like a pushover and cannot come up with a single one. But this as well as a slew of other `holes`are frequently brushed aside to the point that it gets a bit ridiculous.

But Des was a complete pushover (or more likely a scripted one) as shown by how many chances she gave James (producers in her ear). Most with free will would have ditched him the first time they talked to him at the group date after party. If Brooks did leave whatever was the scripted reason he hung out in another section of The Verandah for a couple days the writers would have known exactly what Des buttons to push for her to take him back. Brooks's scripted over-the-top everything-but-the-kitchen sink first date worked like a charm and now all the writers had to do was pull it all back together again. Des (the script) set the pushover precedent with James so taking back Brooks would be consistent.

I've read this all day but I'll say it again, there will be a lot of backlash, more than usual, if she took Brooks back at the last moment.

Great post!  
I love when I feel like I've been channeled. Less to type. 
This is part of MTA episode synopsis: "advice from former Bachelorettes on dealing with troublesome guys"
wtf??  
So Des needs or needed advice from other women (many of whom are still single themselves!) on how to deal with men?  There are not enough words to describe what is in my mind, so I will stop, unlike that massive bus with a slipped transmission.  Poor Des has tire treads on her backside.  
My source sent m this photo from the Men Tell All. As you can see it even has MTA on it--Men Tell All--