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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:35 am

pavalygurl wrote:Des having a late change of mind could account for "it makes no sense" and "it came out of left field". It could also account for the guys not being happy. But what about Des? Is Fleiss saying he doesn't know if she's happy?

Murasaki, your idea about the "shifted F1" could account for the seeming discrepancy over FRC dates. Chris H flew down on April 28. We have some tweets from him and someone he ran into on the plane/at the airport to confirm this. So it is independent of RS. I read a few speculations that the FRC was to be on May 1. Makes sense time-wise. So let's speculate they did have a "FRC" on that day. Let's say the other guy/guys have not as yet "left the island" due to flight schedules/sequestration --I hate that word--or whatever. Des has a change of heart and voila, the shifted F1. Maybe she and the initial F1 spend a few days sorting out their emotions, then finally part ways, enter F1 2.0 and we have a second FRC. I can see it fitting into what Fleiss talked about. And it fits the timeline a bit better than my scenario.

Wouldn't it be something if we figured this out!!!

Pavalygurl, i have done my dissertation called the `Mysterious Consoling Guy` in the preview. LoL.i am a researcher IRL, and IDK why that particular scene intrigued me so much. being a Chris cray fan, let me drown myself in endless 3 days efforts, to figure out that indeed the guy is Chris. and the ugly cry is actually the desperate plea for apology/take me back kind of thing ( i am good at body language too!..lol). this doesnt match with confirmed spoiler where it said two guys showed up and Chris get dumped.but i do believe spoiler. thus i only see this scene happened after the reported spoiler, aka....the shifted F1. what caught me also is Nate`s tweet as if he feel the need to tell the truth without revealing too much. At first i think i just gonna save this in mind and maybe spill it all during last episodes. But now after you have had your own analysis, i am glad that i am not the only one. On top of that, more than anything, i really2 need to see and prove (and i think MF and co too! lol) that RS is big wrong this time!..lol



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Post by atem Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:37 am

That's just it. I don't think Nate or her mom know who she picked. Desiree is very private and I really don't think she's told them.

Her mom just RT'd a tweet from Stephtweets picking Brooks for Desiree!


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:38 am

atem wrote:That's just it. I don't think Nate or her mom know who she picked. Desiree is very private and I really don't think she's told them.

Her mom just RT'd a tweet from Stephtweets picking Brooks for Desiree!

Maybe her mom likes Brooks and hopes he's the one. Can't say I blame her. Even Jimmy Kimmel likes Brooks for her.

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Post by atem Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:39 am

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atem wrote:That's just it. I don't think Nate or her mom know who she picked. Desiree is very private and I really don't think she's told them.

Her mom just RT'd a tweet from Stephtweets picking Brooks for Desiree!

Maybe her mom likes Brooks and hopes he's the one. Can't say I blame her. Even Jimmy Kimmel likes Brooks for her.

He does? What did he say?


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Post by IrishGal Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:39 am

Hey guys...where is the thread that just has the previews, etc. It doesn't seem to be in the video thread where I'd expect it. I am so lost trying to find my way around my favorite website. :pinkcry:


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Post by atem Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:41 am

IrishGal wrote:Hey guys...where is the thread that just has the previews, etc. It doesn't seem to be in the video thread where I'd expect it. I am so lost trying to find my way around my favorite website. :pinkcry:

Jokers has both in one place http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Board=TheBachelorette&Number=19380672


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:44 am

murasaki1393 wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:Des having a late change of mind could account for "it makes no sense" and "it came out of left field". It could also account for the guys not being happy. But what about Des? Is Fleiss saying he doesn't know if she's happy?

Murasaki, your idea about the "shifted F1" could account for the seeming discrepancy over FRC dates. Chris H flew down on April 28. We have some tweets from him and someone he ran into on the plane/at the airport to confirm this. So it is independent of RS. I read a few speculations that the FRC was to be on May 1. Makes sense time-wise. So let's speculate they did have a "FRC" on that day. Let's say the other guy/guys have not as yet "left the island" due to flight schedules/sequestration --I hate that word--or whatever. Des has a change of heart and voila, the shifted F1. Maybe she and the initial F1 spend a few days sorting out their emotions, then finally part ways, enter F1 2.0 and we have a second FRC. I can see it fitting into what Fleiss talked about. And it fits the timeline a bit better than my scenario.

Wouldn't it be something if we figured this out!!!

Pavalygurl, i have done my dissertation called the `Mysterious Consoling Guy` in the preview. LoL.i am a researcher IRL, and IDK why that particular scene intrigued me so much. being a Chris cray fan, let me drown myself in endless 3 days efforts, to figure out that indeed the guy is Chris. and the ugly cry is actually the desperate plea for apology/take me back kind of thing ( i am good at body language too!..lol). this doesnt match with confirmed spoiler where it said two guys showed up and Chris get dumped.but i do believe spoiler. thus i only see this scene happened after the reported spoiler, aka....the shifted F1. what caught me also is Nate`s tweet as if he feel the need to tell the truth without revealing too much. At first i think i just gonna save this in mind and maybe spill it all during last episodes. But now after you have had your own analysis, i am glad that i am not the only one. On top of that, more than anything, i really2 need to see and prove (and i think MF and co too! lol) that RS is big wrong this time!..lol

Hmm. Along the lines of your shifting idea I had this idea. It's a good one. Never been done before. Would get all of them upset and unhappy about how it came about, the bad feelings it caused, to this day . . .

She accepts Chris's proposal, but then changes her mind on the show, realizing where her heart really is, finally listening to her heart and has to stop her time with Brooks because she has to go find Chris and tell him it can't be. So, Chris is unhappy. Brooks finds out about it somehow and is unhappy. And she's unhappy about what she's done. It'll shock us, come out of left field, make no sense, but we'll love it. Lol.

Basically, she catches herself ON the show before she pulls a Mesnick. She pulls a Mesnick with the cameras still rolling, lol.

Perfect. I think I'm right. Done.

This idea also still supports Brooks as the spoiled F1. :)

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:50 am

atem wrote:
canyonvue wrote:
atem wrote:That's just it. I don't think Nate or her mom know who she picked. Desiree is very private and I really don't think she's told them.

Her mom just RT'd a tweet from Stephtweets picking Brooks for Desiree!

Maybe her mom likes Brooks and hopes he's the one. Can't say I blame her. Even Jimmy Kimmel likes Brooks for her.

He does? What did he say?

Just in his interview with her. He chose Brooks as her F1. That's all I meant, lol. It's just kind of funny and ironic that he did. In fact, a lot of unspoiled people do.

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Post by atem Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:50 am

What did Jimmy Kimmel say?


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Post by umngirl Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:53 am

You really think Jimmy Kimmel doesn't know spoilers? That is pretty much known. His picked the winner right at least the past three seasons, and even had the top 4 order for Sean's completely right. No way he does that without inside knowledge.


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:54 am

murasaki1393 wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:Des having a late change of mind could account for "it makes no sense" and "it came out of left field". It could also account for the guys not being happy. But what about Des? Is Fleiss saying he doesn't know if she's happy?

Murasaki, your idea about the "shifted F1" could account for the seeming discrepancy over FRC dates. Chris H flew down on April 28. We have some tweets from him and someone he ran into on the plane/at the airport to confirm this. So it is independent of RS. I read a few speculations that the FRC was to be on May 1. Makes sense time-wise. So let's speculate they did have a "FRC" on that day. Let's say the other guy/guys have not as yet "left the island" due to flight schedules/sequestration --I hate that word--or whatever. Des has a change of heart and voila, the shifted F1. Maybe she and the initial F1 spend a few days sorting out their emotions, then finally part ways, enter F1 2.0 and we have a second FRC. I can see it fitting into what Fleiss talked about. And it fits the timeline a bit better than my scenario.

Wouldn't it be something if we figured this out!!!

Pavalygurl, i have done my dissertation called the `Mysterious Consoling Guy` in the preview. LoL.i am a researcher IRL, and IDK why that particular scene intrigued me so much. being a Chris cray fan, let me drown myself in endless 3 days efforts, to figure out that indeed the guy is Chris. and the ugly cry is actually the desperate plea for apology/take me back kind of thing ( i am good at body language too!..laugh out loud). this doesnt match with confirmed spoiler where it said two guys showed up and Chris get dumped.but i do believe spoiler. thus i only see this scene happened after the reported spoiler, aka....the shifted F1. what caught me also is Nate`s tweet as if he feel the need to tell the truth without revealing too much. At first i think i just gonna save this in mind and maybe spill it all during last episodes. But now after you have had your own analysis, i am glad that i am not the only one. On top of that, more than anything, i really2 need to see and prove (and i think MF and co too! laugh out loud) that RS is big wrong this time!..laugh out loud

let me also share this with you. one evidence about the 2nd FRC/the shifted F1 FRC....just to tickle your mind Smiley-this was taken from my mail to one of my fello Chris fren :
The second one, the one she had said yes to Chris was taken out of Verandah perhaps in the adjacent island on the next days. This is the hidden one, de jure, only few crew got to see. . This will explain the PI, wearing red dress, where she said..after tonight, I want him to get down on one knee. I love him.. If you notice, you can tell she made those PI after bailing her eyes out entire day!! aka in the evening after the `desperate plea 4 apology ugly cry` scene. Its irrational, ridk to think that particular PI is taken from one of FSD/LCD. It would be a dead give away as to whom she will pick for the next day, of course!!..the only explanation is the PI refer to the 2nd FRC, refer to only one guy she loved the most, the ACTUAL last man standing. JMHTheory giggling


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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:55 am

atem wrote:What did Jimmy Kimmel say?

Just on his show. He was just going through telling her what she thought of some of them. Then he picked her top 3. Picked Drew, Michael and then said that the next man was her F1 and it was Brooks. He wouldn't quit with it. She looked positively scared.

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