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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:20 am

One more point, albean99

I once again had an accidental pause on the DVR of the group date where Ryan gets the rose. It was a jawline shot and the back of his head and neck. Since that time, I have strongly suspected that GSG is Ryan. He fits the build. And he has the height that was throwing me off before.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:24 am

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albean99 wrote:I've also wondered if GSG could be Ryan. He does appear to be tall so it's always a possibility. We don't have a lot of confirmed JP pics later on, maybe there's a reason for that. The seaplane with Ashley could be him, mud bath possibly but could be someone else including Ryan, and I'm not even completely sure that the beach walking pic is him. Even still, I'm inclined to believe that JP made it to the f2 date and the yellow shirt on the beach with Ashley in brown might be the LCD/MTP part.

Edit from last night's show was interesting and noticed some things:

Ben

- of course the "I love Ben..." in the intro package. I don't think it was plucked from somewhere else but seems to go with the love theme of the 2 of them last night.
- during the intro Ashley talks about wanting to see in there's an emotional and physical connection with the guys and if they're the "whole package". It appears they used the same clip at the beginning of Ben's date other than it now says "that's the only way I'll go home to meet his family" instead of their family.
-Ashley talked about having very strong feelings for a couple of guys, Ben included. Not a surprise but a confirmation that we saw.
- so many adorable parts like Ben attaching Ashley's helmet strap and his sweet talking (we saw one but they talked about another time).
- we saw Ben say "We're going places" and it's "right out of a fairy tale".
- Ben talked about falling in love and Ashley said that she "might be falling in love with Ben". We haven't heard that in relation to anyone else.
- I noticed that they showed us the name of the hotel they stayed at. It's Silks Place. http://taroko.silksplace.com.tw/index_en.html

JP

Mostly it was the jealousy thing which I've already talked about. I don't think it was a good edit for the f1 person so why show it to that extent? They could have still used it to introduce doubt by scaling it back. We didn't have to see his veins bulging, swearing, and him walking out when Ben was talking about his date. It even ruined the wedding photos because of his attitude. Very sulky and unbecoming.

Couldn't agree more...........JP's jealousy stuff is really unbecoming of a F1 edit. The tide definately is turning more towards a Ben F1 finish. The Silk's Place is something that was sleuthed out a while ago..........I think all locations were sleuthed out and are in the sleuthing section??

What does the Silk's Place have to do with anything......there is no way in heck I could read everything here....never seen so many posts. LOL I'm curious to know. Why is that significant?

That is the hotel that Ash and Ben stayed at in the Taroko Gorge. It was sleuthed by a few of us on here.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:31 am

Thanks!!

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Post by Bloomers Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:36 am

Ashley is being edited as indecisive. She is, to speak in everyday terms, "wishy-washy'. She runs "hot and cold", and she has done it all season long from Bentley to last night.

Throughout the season she has encouraged Ryan beginning the first night with the First Impression Rose and then followed it up with two group roses which are endued with high praise and favor when they are given out in front of the other guys.
She mentioned at one time to him meeting his family, and so when he found himself still there prior to the Hometowns with one single date remaining and Chris Harrison's proclamation of "No rose/no pressure ringing" in his head, he was completely unprepared to be dumped on the spot on his 1-1 by an Ashley who had suddenly after all of this time changed her mind.

Now, having made a decision, does Ashley stick like glue to it? What do we hear?
We hear an indecisive Ashley say that she is definite about letting BOTH Ryan and Lucas go ONLY to turn around and be seen crying and saying she is NOT sure that she made the right decision about either one of them!

In fact, we see and hear a crying, indecisive Ashley saying that she wonders if she is "cut out for this process."

Folks, these kinds of things are left in the edit for a reason.


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Post by BlondieGal Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:38 am

Exceptional point, Bloomers. Now to figure out what it all means, whether she is now alone or has come full circle and is now confident in her F1 selection.


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Post by nd4reality Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:45 am

Bloomers wrote:Ashley is being edited as indecisive. She is, to speak in everyday terms, "wishy-washy'. She runs "hot and cold", and she has done it all season long from Bentley to last night.

Throughout the season she has encouraged Ryan beginning the first night with the First Impression Rose and then followed it up with two group roses which are endued with high praise and favor when they are given out in front of the other guys.
She mentioned at one time to him meeting his family, and so when he found himself still there prior to the Hometowns with one single date remaining and Chris Harrison's proclamation of "No rose/no pressure ringing" in his head, he was completely unprepared to be dumped on the spot on his 1-1 by an Ashley who had suddenly after all of this time changed her mind.

Now, having made a decision, does Ashley stick like glue to it? What do we hear?
We hear an indecisive Ashley say that she is definite about letting BOTH Ryan and Lucas go ONLY to turn around and be seen crying and saying she is NOT sure that she made the right decision about either one of them!

In fact, we see and hear a crying, indecisive Ashley saying that she wonders if she is "cut out for this process."

Folks, these kinds of things are left in the edit for a reason.

Thank you. Great observations.

This is exactly the reason I am not getting the warm and fuzzies this season. If she does end up in love with someone - great. Unfortunately with what I am seeing of her personality and thought processes - I am completely unable to get on board with anyone. Its sad.


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Post by Bloomers Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:54 am

BlondieGal wrote:Exceptional point, Bloomers. Now to figure out what it all means, whether she is now alone or has come full circle and is now confident in her F1 selection.

It may well be a combination of things, Blondie, but the very first thing that hit me, and I feel even more strong about it right now after last night's edited episode, is that Ashley may well not have been ready for a committed relationship at this time in her life.

We know that she wasn't at the end of Brad's season. My feeling of Ashley was that while she was smart as a whip and was well on her way to becoming a dentist, emotionally she is a butterfly flitting here and there, experiencing life and not ready to settle down.
We heard from one of her peers that she tried out for So You Think You Can Dance, and we know that she is into teaching dance lessons.
I think Ashley is too busy with life right now for a settled, committed relationship leading to marriage.

In my opinion the overall edit we are getting is not positive enough to make me think the producers believe there will be a solid, lasting relationship.
Ashley is indecisive. JP is too jealous and impatient. I could ignore that they have painted Ben with all of the sterotypical F2 signals except that they didn't have him show up until basically the 4th episode ( If he wins, what a shockeroo!! Wouldn't that be a kick to the sleuthers?)
I just don't think this looks so good - certainly not for an Ali/Roberto type relationship.



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Post by bilolo Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:54 am

i agree with you Bloomers she's so undecisive and i do think like you this will have a role in the outcome hahaha maybe she'll have a hard time choosing her final one and both two guys will leave her alone and she'll come later with a decision
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:06 pm

bilolo wrote:i agree with you Bloomers she's so undecisive and i do think like you this will have a role in the outcome hahaha maybe she'll have a hard time choosing her final one and both two guys will leave her alone and she'll come later with a decision

Somebody else has mentioned this too, and I've thought so at one point. What if they both leave her at the FRC. And she has to make the decision to run after whichever one she chooses. Sort of a .....you know where to find me kind of move.

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Post by lavenderred Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:30 pm

Or TPTB could be giving JP a Vienna-like edit and throwing Ashley's whole season under the bus. scratch
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Post by noobsleuth Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:32 pm

Bloomers wrote:
BlondieGal wrote:Exceptional point, Bloomers. Now to figure out what it all means, whether she is now alone or has come full circle and is now confident in her F1 selection.

It may well be a combination of things, Blondie, but the very first thing that hit me, and I feel even more strong about it right now after last night's edited episode, is that Ashley may well not have been ready for a committed relationship at this time in her life.

We know that she wasn't at the end of Brad's season. My feeling of Ashley was that while she was smart as a whip and was well on her way to becoming a dentist, emotionally she is a butterfly flitting here and there, experiencing life and not ready to settle down.
We heard from one of her peers that she tried out for So You Think You Can Dance, and we know that she is into teaching dance lessons.
I think Ashley is too busy with life right now for a settled, committed relationship leading to marriage.

In my opinion the overall edit we are getting is not positive enough to make me think the producers believe there will be a solid, lasting relationship.
Ashley is indecisive. JP is too jealous and impatient. I could ignore that they have painted Ben with all of the sterotypical F2 signals except that they didn't have him show up until basically the 4th episode ( If he wins, what a shockeroo!! Wouldn't that be a kick to the sleuthers?)
I just don't think this looks so good - certainly not for an Ali/Roberto type relationship.


AHHh I had this really great response to your post and I lost it!! I agree with you. JP as F1 was never an issue for me (at this point anyway... I will admit things could change). But last night told me these two might be dealing with some stuff right now.

I don't think the jealousy thing is the F1 doubt. The jealousy was mirrored in episode 2. JP is upset he can't be with Ash... she reassures him and we have confident, stable, JP at the RC.
I think the doubt is his insecurity (diff than jealousy I think.)

If I had to guess... IRL JP is ready to run to the alter but wish washy Ashley isn't quite ready. Cue his insecurity which brought out the jealousy tonight and her wishy washy-ness (nice) of sending certain people home.

She needs to decide if she wants to be with him. If she hurts him (post show) it will be so sad. It will be like the situation with his ex gf all over again... and thanks to Mama Rosenbaum we get to hear about that again next week. YAY! everything coming together. :tissuebox


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Post by anders Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:34 pm

ya know what - I see MF throwing this entire season under the bus- we've got a very insecure lead, who questions her decision making process (read: Bentley, Lucas and Ryan) and our supposed F1 getting a less than stellar edit.

When was that last time we got a season where MF threw both his lead and F1 under the bus?? Ever? Jake got a very good edit, as a stark contrast to Vienna's.


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