Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #1

by IrishGal Thu May 16, 2013 2:45 am

I understood your meaning I think. But I disagree that Brad 2 can be put in a category of "chose well". They didn't even last til the AFRC unlike the rest you mentioned. It's all good! :Smiley:

by Pattycake92 Thu May 16, 2013 11:00 am

They all have about the same chance of making it. Doesn't matter if it's love at first sight or slow burn that turns into more. Chances are slim to none either way. Just enjoy the journey.

by Guest Thu May 16, 2013 11:09 am

Pattycake92 wrote:They all have about the same chance of making it. Doesn't matter if it's love at first sight or slow burn that turns into more. Chances are slim to none either way. Just enjoy the journey.

Agreed! Sean was extensively criticized for (according to TPTB edit anyway) not zooming onto Catherine early enough... And Ben for zooming onto Courtney too fast...

Whatever reasons each had to pick their F1, it was the right one in their mind (Jason excepted of course). Jef/Em was slow-burn and lasted a few months, Ben/Court lasted over a year (not a bad average in this franchise!), Ash and JP got pretty cosy from Episode 2/3 and got married, but Trista and Ryan were a late bloom and got married as well...

There are no rules :)

by JenTen1585 Thu May 16, 2013 3:36 pm

I love all this analysis! It's interesting! I always like the season where you can tell the lead's preference. It bugs me to no end when they still seem to be undecided on the last episode because it makes it seem disingenuous when they propose or are accept a proposal a day later! I don't mind, however, if it take them a few episodes to decide. I think our two married bachelorettes, Trista and Ashley, both had a similar time period. I think they both were interested in Ryan and JP respectively in the first night ... but they weren't their favorites. I think Trista's favorite the first night was Charlie and Ashley's was William. I think they both had the "bad" guys (although I wouldn't call Russ bad in the same way as Bentley) in Russel and Bentley that derailed and confused them in the beginning. I think they both, by the fourth episode, focused on their eventual F1. Ashley had the extended season to fall for JP. Trista had a much shorter season. Trista was sooooo easy to read, she actually gave out roses in order of her preference ... or at least always gave the first rose to her favorite, IMO. Charlie got the first rose I believe on Episode 3 and then Episode 4 was hometowns and Trista and Ryan had their first passionate kiss. On Episode 4, Ryan got the first rose, and got it again after the fantasy suites where we know that she only slept with Ryan. I think she decided on Ryan at the hometowns. I think Ashley focused on JP on his first 1-1, was pretty darn sure after that hot kiss in Thailand, and decided on JP for sure after Hong Kong. Mostly speculation but I think their arcs were pretty darn similar.

by atem Thu May 16, 2013 3:39 pm

Well, from RS's spoilers ...the top 2 didn't even get a FIR. Nor will they get any air time the first episode.

by Guest Fri May 17, 2013 4:55 am

[quote="JenTen1585"]I love all this analysis! It's interesting! I always like the season where you can tell the lead's preference. It bugs me to no end when they still seem to be undecided on the last episode because it makes it seem disingenuous when they propose or are accept a proposal a day later! I don't mind, however, if it take them a few episodes to decide. I think our two married bachelorettes, Trista and Ashley, both had a similar time period. I think they both were interested in Ryan and JP respectively in the first night ... but they weren't their favorites. I think Trista's favorite the first night was Charlie and Ashley's was William. I think they both had the "bad" guys (although I wouldn't call Russ bad in the same way as Bentley) in Russel and Bentley that derailed and confused them in the beginning. I think they both, by the fourth episode, focused on their eventual F1. Ashley had the extended season to fall for JP. Trista had a much shorter season. Trista was sooooo easy to read, she actually gave out roses in order of her preference ... or at least always gave the first rose to her favorite, IMO. Charlie got the first rose I believe on Episode 3 and then Episode 4 was hometowns and Trista and Ryan had their first passionate kiss. On Episode 4, Ryan got the first rose, and got it again after the fantasy suites where we know that she only slept with Ryan. I think she decided on Ryan at the hometowns. I think Ashley focused on JP on his first 1-1, was pretty darn sure after that hot kiss in Thailand, and decided on JP for sure after Hong Kong. Mostly speculation but I think their arcs were pretty darn similar.
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thanks for sharing your thought with us!
Good Post

by Guest Fri May 17, 2013 8:26 am

Here is what is weird to me, if Des really zeroed in on Brooks right out of the gate, why did he not get a first impression rose(there were multiple handed out)...

To me it seems as he was just a random choice for the first date and Des happened to fall for him over time...
I don't think Des really had a pecking order earlier in the season, but Brooks kept sticking around and it was known that he was her first date so people automatically assumed that it was an instant thing and he was the clear front runner..JMHO

by Baseball Mom Fri May 17, 2013 8:48 am

ZevirahWolf wrote:Here is what is weird to me, if Des really zeroed in on Brooks right out of the gate, why did he not get a first impression rose(there were multiple handed out)...

To me it seems as he was just a random choice for the first date and Des happened to fall for him over time...
I don't think Des really had a pecking order earlier in the season, but Brooks kept sticking around and it was known that he was her first date so people automatically assumed that it was an instant thing and he was the clear front runner..JMHO

Your post makes a lot of sense thumbsup

...we do assume a lot of things here based on previous seasons...but things aren't always the same and maybe it was a slower burn for Des and Brooks than we originally thought....we'll see :Smiley:

by atem Fri May 17, 2013 9:25 am

ZevirahWolf wrote:Here is what is weird to me, if Des really zeroed in on Brooks right out of the gate, why did he not get a first impression rose(there were multiple handed out)...

To me it seems as he was just a random choice for the first date and Des happened to fall for him over time...
I don't think Des really had a pecking order earlier in the season, but Brooks kept sticking around and it was known that he was her first date so people automatically assumed that it was an instant thing and he was the clear front runner..JMHO

Yeah, people like Nick (the blonde one) and I think Mike (the fed prosecutor) got one. We don't see why in the episode, but they do.

Seemed like Ben was the one she thought she had the most common with.

by Guest Fri May 17, 2013 9:27 am

atem wrote:
ZevirahWolf wrote:Here is what is weird to me, if Des really zeroed in on Brooks right out of the gate, why did he not get a first impression rose(there were multiple handed out)...

To me it seems as he was just a random choice for the first date and Des happened to fall for him over time...
I don't think Des really had a pecking order earlier in the season, but Brooks kept sticking around and it was known that he was her first date so people automatically assumed that it was an instant thing and he was the clear front runner..JMHO

Yeah, people like Nick (the blonde one) and I think Mike (the fed prosecutor) got one. We don't see why in the episode, but they do.

Seemed like Ben was the one she thought she had the most common with.

I think it was Brody who she fell for... I know I would have, that kid is adorable;)

by Karen5354 Fri May 17, 2013 9:46 am

ZevirahWolf wrote:Here is what is weird to me, if Des really zeroed in on Brooks right out of the gate, why did he not get a first impression rose(there were multiple handed out)...

To me it seems as he was just a random choice for the first date and Des happened to fall for him over time...
I don't think Des really had a pecking order earlier in the season, but Brooks kept sticking around and it was known that he was her first date so people automatically assumed that it was an instant thing and he was the clear front runner..JMHO

Is it possible that the producer told Des to deliberately save a couple of FIRs, as to hide whom she's most interested in? I have nothing to base this on, just trying to put myself in the sneaky producers' shoes.

by Kashathediva Fri May 17, 2013 9:50 am

Karen5354 wrote:
ZevirahWolf wrote:Here is what is weird to me, if Des really zeroed in on Brooks right out of the gate, why did he not get a first impression rose(there were multiple handed out)...

To me it seems as he was just a random choice for the first date and Des happened to fall for him over time...
I don't think Des really had a pecking order earlier in the season, but Brooks kept sticking around and it was known that he was her first date so people automatically assumed that it was an instant thing and he was the clear front runner..JMHO

Is it possible that the producer told Des to deliberately save a couple of FIRs, as to hide whom she's most interested in? I have nothing to base this on, just trying to put myself in the sneaky producers' shoes.

Not only possible, but most likely.

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