Re: The Bachelor: Women Tell All - 3/04 - Discussion Thread

by **Sprite** Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:54 am

sky wrote:Ali tweeted that there might be something physical happened between Sean and Ashlee, seen her reaction, did Sean sleep with her?

Sean has repeatedly stated that he did not sleep with anyone...and is currently still celebate with Cat (even though it is hard)...so I don't think he slept with her. I think AshLee is just someone we have never seen on this show before, her interpretations of things seem to be way off. In other cases, Bach/ettes have asked why they were led on by the leads...implying that they had slept with them, but, I really don't think this is one of those cases.

by HowSoonIsNow Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:00 am

Sprite wrote:
sky wrote:Ali tweeted that there might be something physical happened between Sean and Ashlee, seen her reaction, did Sean sleep with her?

Sean has repeatedly stated that he did not sleep with anyone...and is currently still celebate with Cat (even though it is hard)...so I don't think he slept with her. I think AshLee is just someone we have never seen on this show before, her interpretations of things seem to be way off. In other cases, Bach/ettes have asked why they were led on by the leads...implying that they had slept with them, but, I really don't think this is one of those cases.

Even if they didn't have sex, it's possible that they engaged in some sort of intimacy. We don't know where Sean draws the intimacy line to define his celibacy.

by **Sprite** Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:21 am

HowSoonIsNow wrote:
Sprite wrote:
sky wrote:Ali tweeted that there might be something physical happened between Sean and Ashlee, seen her reaction, did Sean sleep with her?

Sean has repeatedly stated that he did not sleep with anyone...and is currently still celebate with Cat (even though it is hard)...so I don't think he slept with her. I think AshLee is just someone we have never seen on this show before, her interpretations of things seem to be way off. In other cases, Bach/ettes have asked why they were led on by the leads...implying that they had slept with them, but, I really don't think this is one of those cases.

Even if they didn't have sex, it's possible that they engaged in some sort of intimacy. We don't know where Sean draws the intimacy line to define his celibacy.

That is true, however, nothing I saw from AshLee indicated that her reaction was because of something physical that happened during the FD...she seems to be insisting it is because of what was said to her...so I stand by that...no hanky panky. Ali clearly has another perspective.

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by Guest Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:55 am

Eww, I totally forgot that they dry humped on the beach.

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by Guest Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:59 am

I totally think that something physical happened. Not sex, but close (like third base). From her "I felt dishonored by you" and the fact that she thought he acted like a frat boy. Don't get me wrong, I think she has issues and that she needed to be more realistic about the way this show works. However, I do believe that Sean might have unintentionally said what she says he did.

by terabithia Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:17 am

chasingpavements wrote:I totally think that something physical happened. Not sex, but close (like third base). From her "I felt dishonored by you" and the fact that she thought he acted like a frat boy. Don't get me wrong, I think she has issues and that she needed to be more realistic about the way this show works. However, I do believe that Sean might have unintentionally said what she says he did.

I don't think "frat boy" is a clue about them being overtly physical. AshLee said he acted like a frat boy with the other women, but he was a true Southern gentleman with her. She was surprised by the Sean she saw on TV because he was such a gentleman around her. I do think AshLee thought he treated her like a lady, probably one reason she liked him so much at the time. (I think Catherine said that before she went to the FS, she wasn't worried because she knew Sean would treat her like a lady when the cameras were gone.)

by luvstx Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:27 am

Thanks for all the interesting comments, all. I did think that last night's WTA was more interesting than many of them have been but it's still the least enjoyable episode of any season. But this season's set of women was among the best ever, IMO, so I enjoyed seeing the women.

I won't comment on AshLee's reactions. Agree with most of what has been said.

But I think that AshLee used the "frat boy" vs. "Southern Gentleman" comment to help her feel better that he didn't chose her. She was basically saying that she saw Sean as a kind, serious, Southern Gentleman but that after watching the season and his interactions with Cat, Lindsey and Des, she realizes that there is a boy inside of him who also just likes to have fun. She knows that she doesn't have that playful side of herself. So she knows now why he didn't pick her and she uses the "frat boy" description to denigrate him.

by chicagoowl Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:37 am

luvstx wrote:Thanks for all the interesting comments, all. I did think that last night's WTA was more interesting than many of them have been but it's still the least enjoyable episode of any season. But this season's set of women was among the best ever, IMO, so I enjoyed seeing the women.

I won't comment on AshLee's reactions. Agree with most of what has been said.

But I think that AshLee used the "frat boy" vs. "Southern Gentleman" comment to help her feel better that he didn't chose her. She was basically saying that she saw Sean as a kind, serious, Southern Gentleman but that after watching the season and his interactions with Cat, Lindsey and Des, she realizes that there is a boy inside of him who also just likes to have fun. She knows that she doesn't have that playful side of herself. So she knows now why he didn't pick her and she uses the "frat boy" description to denigrate him.

So if he acted like a "frat boy' with the other women, what does that say about the other women? Isn't she denigrating them as well? It's almost like an attack on them too.

by luvstx Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:43 am

chicagoowl wrote:
luvstx wrote:Thanks for all the interesting comments, all. I did think that last night's WTA was more interesting than many of them have been but it's still the least enjoyable episode of any season. But this season's set of women was among the best ever, IMO, so I enjoyed seeing the women.

I won't comment on AshLee's reactions. Agree with most of what has been said.

But I think that AshLee used the "frat boy" vs. "Southern Gentleman" comment to help her feel better that he didn't chose her. She was basically saying that she saw Sean as a kind, serious, Southern Gentleman but that after watching the season and his interactions with Cat, Lindsey and Des, she realizes that there is a boy inside of him who also just likes to have fun. She knows that she doesn't have that playful side of herself. So she knows now why he didn't pick her and she uses the "frat boy" description to denigrate him.

So if he acted like a "frat boy' with the other women, what does that say about the other women? Isn't she denigrating them as well? It's almost like an attack on them too.

I'm not sure if I would agree that it's an attack on the other women too. But I am sure that AshLee just doesn't see herself in the same mold as many of the other women.

And I thought Lesley's restrained comments about AshLee and the AshLee/Tierra battle was quite telling. I don't think the other women were that close to AshLee but she didn't give them any reason to dislike her as much as Tierra.

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