Episode 7 - 2/11 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

veg_out wrote:I'm not so sure that those guys opted out as opposed to the show instituting a media moratorium on them until the MTA. I know that Michele gave an interview after her demise, but I didn't see Michele as more than a hilarious instigator. Tierra's type of villain is similar to Courtney in that they both seem to isolate themselves from the girls except for one or two friends. I think the contestants can talk only if the show decides that they can. At least, during the season. I'm thinking of Katie L.'s interviews that weren't very complimentary as well as Ashley's. These two are minor players compared to T.

Tierra may or may not be at the WTA. Depends on the way they want to spin it. If it's for redemption, she'll be there. Given that Sean's part of the WTA has been broken out (for a few reasons), I assume that it's also to accommodate the mayhem of Tierra. That drama though can be accomplished without her. Much of Jill's, Ashley's were about the absent villain. It was your good ol' bashing sesh.

Oh that's right - Bentley didn't do interviews and wasn't at the MTA. Just a question- I saw a tweet here somewhere that Tierra said last week she wasn't watching the show. Do you all know if she meant that episode or the show in general? It would be hard for her to answer the reporters questions if she hasn't been watching the show, don't you think?

yrkiemommy wrote:

Oh that's right - Bentley didn't do interviews and wasn't at the MTA. Just a question- I saw a tweet here somewhere that Tierra said last week she wasn't watching the show. Do you all know if she meant that episode or the show in general? It would be hard for her to answer the reporters questions if she hasn't been watching the show, don't you think?

It sounds like Michele and Wes' responses during their respective seasons. Neither of them watched. We know that Michele showed at the WTA and was redeemed essentially after Jackie laid into her and CH called off the dogs. We also know that Wes didn't show nor Bent. After the fact, Jill and Wes admit to a close friendship even now. Michele and her girls are close.

Maybe things for Tierra will be similar to Courtney's experience, but I think that all of this absurdity will blow over. Sean isn't dramatic just like Ben wasn't so they needed someone who'd add conflict and spice to seasons. They still fail to realize that viewers prefer the love story. Tierra is following Court's lead. Over it.

northernviewer wrote:I'm looking forward to Tierra leaving, cuz I want to hear what she has to say in interviews. She's getting a terrible edit, so I'm hoping she doesn't "play nice" like Sarah did, and gives up some info as to what was going on in the house!

I'm just honestly looking forward to her being gone OFF my TV. I've never been so sick of anybody in all the season's of the Bach since it's been on. I don't even find Tierra that attractive so it really makes me wonder what it was that Sean saw in her. Very curious and he can't just say it was because she was all rainbow and roses when she was around him either.. .

From what I understand Sean has many female friends, yet he knew Tierra wasn't getting alone with any of the girls as she even told him as much, so what on earth was Sean thinking keeping her this long unless it was the producers ideal. I'm having trouble understanding this. Ya know? :shocked!:

LoveDovez wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I'm looking forward to Tierra leaving, cuz I want to hear what she has to say in interviews. She's getting a terrible edit, so I'm hoping she doesn't "play nice" like Sarah did, and gives up some info as to what was going on in the house!

I'm just honestly looking forward to her being gone OFF my TV. I've never been so sick of anybody in all the season's of the Bach since it's been on. I don't even find Tierra that attractive so it really makes me wonder what it was that Sean saw in her. Very curious and he can't just say it was because she was all rainbow and roses when she was around him either.. .

From what I understand Sean has many female friends, yet he knew Tierra wasn't getting alone with any of the girls as she even told him as much, so what on earth was Sean thinking keeping her this long unless it was the producers ideal. I'm having trouble understanding this. Ya know? :shocked!:

I'm ready to get Tierra off my t.v. set too but think that Courtney bothered me more and I had to watch her longer.

I will say, however, that I think Tierra is very pretty. At least on the outside.

When things don't quite make sense usually it's a producer ploy. From my standpoint, Sean probably was attracted to Tierra up to Montana. When the drama reached a crescendo plus Cat turning the "friend" page over for him, I think he kept her at the advice of the show.

Point of interest for others: in most seasons, the villain stays in the picture til either 1. the epi just before HTDs after which the love story takes off 2. Epi 5/6 if a real connection occurs between a lead and another contestant (they start to let that relationship emerge slowly from the shadows.)

When the villain is the F1, please refer to Jake and Ben's seasons!

veg_out wrote:When things don't quite make sense usually it's a producer ploy. From my standpoint, Sean probably was attracted to Tierra up to Montana. When the drama reached a crescendo plus Cat turning the "friend" page over for him, I think he kept her at the advice of the show.

Point of interest for others: in most seasons, the villain stays in the picture til either 1. the epi just before HTDs after which the love story takes off 2. Epi 5/6 if a real connection occurs between a lead and another contestant (they start to let that relationship emerge slowly from the shadows.)

When the villain is the F1, please refer to Jake and Ben's seasons!

Yup... they try to keep the villain as long as they can. Think about it... how boring would the season be if Tierra left at episode 2? All the other girls seemed to like each other (except for a mild annoyance with Amanda). What if Tierra doesn't attend the Women Tell All? How will they fill two hours?

I do think Sean was ignorant about Tierra until Montana. Then, I think he was trying to make sense of her.... And in the meantime, I think he was really starting to have some fun with Catherine and Lindsay. Unlike some past leads, I think Sean is really trying to be thoughtful and that may be why he doesn't just react to Tierra - and I'm glad for that. Yes, we have the pain of having Tierra on our screen longer, but Sean is trying to sort it out. I won't make a full determination of whether I think he was really getting close to her until I see his body language during their one on one, but up to this point I haven't thought him to be overly comfortable with he- certainly not like he is with Catherine or Lindsay - or even Ashlee.

I am glad that I already know that Tierra's not the last one standing.... Though if she had been, she and Sean wouldn't be together anymore. I would expect him to be supportive of f1 like JP was of Ashley when she was getting so much criticism about Bentley (the Bachelor website- his video confidential made during the airing).

Lindsey came across as a total ditz the other night. Sean preferring her to Desiree, doesn't say much about Sean. I really need to see what happens at HTD's to make him let her go.

northernviewer wrote:Lindsey came across as a total ditz the other night. Sean preferring her to Desiree, doesn't say much about Sean. I really need to see what happens at HTD's to make him let her go.

I'm with you on this one Northern. Just not feeling the Lindsay love...mostly she just seems too young to me. But I'm not Sean!

northernviewer wrote:Lindsey came across as a total ditz the other night. Sean preferring her to Desiree, doesn't say much about Sean. I really need to see what happens at HTD's to make him let her go.

I would have liked to have seen more of Lindsay's and Cat's one on one dates. TPTB showed more of Leslie's "pretty woman" date than the F2 dates. I'm so curious as to why Des didn't at least make it to F3. I would have thought AshLee would have been the one to go at F4.

luvstx wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Lindsey came across as a total ditz the other night. Sean preferring her to Desiree, doesn't say much about Sean. I really need to see what happens at HTD's to make him let her go.

I'm with you on this one Northern. Just not feeling the Lindsay love...mostly she just seems too young to me. But I'm not Sean!

I can see his attraction with Catharine, and can totally buy into him choosing her in the end. About the only thing that hold any interest for me for the rest of the season is why did he lose interest in Desiree? IMO she's got a lot more going for her than Ashlee and Lindsey, and acts like a normal, well adjusted woman - whereas Ashlee is super emotional and needy and I've already said what I think about Lindsey.

I don't think we have a lot on Lindsay to judge her since her 1on1 was so short. Clearly if Sean kept her this long there is something there that we the viewers dont see. As for Des going home at htd i am surprised to. Sean must have had 3 darn good amazing htd or the spark just wasn't there anymore OR he didn't like the prank she pulled on him.