The Bachelor 17 - Speculation/Spoilers - Discussion

Alexxxx wrote:
Makes sense to me. I also now know I never want to be a Neilsen household. No keeping a journal for me. No sirree bob. I'm a channel surfer, it's 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there, wasting too much time on useless reality TV, skip all the commercials. I usually couldn't tell you what I've watched. But I always watch this ridiculous show. I don't usually brag about that ...

Chacharo wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:
Makes sense to me. I also now know I never want to be a Neilsen household. No keeping a journal for me. No sirree bob. I'm a channel surfer, it's 5 minutes here, 10 minutes there, wasting too much time on useless reality TV, skip all the commercials. I usually couldn't tell you what I've watched. But I always watch this ridiculous show. I don't usually brag about that ...

I think I would be tempted to lie in my journal about watching this trainwreck religiously.

Chacharo wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:It sounds like according to Nielsen's the numbers were down definitely, but then according to the other source the percentage could be up and that is entirely possible, too.
A bigger percentage of viewing audience may have been viewing that episode but it could have been less in actual viewers. If that make sense.
How's that for talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Sooooo, more people were watching, but only with one eye? With their backs turned to the screen? While they were on the phone?

Question - do people still have those Nielsen boxes in their homes? The thought of how they are tracking Nielsen kinda gives me the creeps. But then, I don't understand how they know who's watching what anyway? Yikes!

realityfan26 wrote:

Chacharo wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:It sounds like according to Nielsen's the numbers were down definitely, but then according to the other source the percentage could be up and that is entirely possible, too.
A bigger percentage of viewing audience may have been viewing that episode but it could have been less in actual viewers. If that make sense.
How's that for talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Sooooo, more people were watching, but only with one eye? With their backs turned to the screen? While they were on the phone?

Question - do people still have those Nielsen boxes in their homes? The thought of how they are tracking Nielsen kinda gives me the creeps. But then, I don't understand how they know who's watching what anyway? Yikes!

We had a Nielsen box ages ago!! Do you think they can track through our Tivo's and DVR's? Someone's going to notice that I waste an awful lot of time on crappy TV!!

Isitreal wrote:

realityfan26 wrote:
We had a Nielsen box ages ago!! Do you think they can track through our Tivo's and DVR's? Someone's going to notice that I waste an awful lot of time on crappy TV!!

I did see ratings concerning DVR's and maybe it applies to TIVO too. It was called DVR penetration. I'm not sure how it plays in to the over all ratings, but it is tracked.

realityfan26 wrote:

Isitreal wrote:

realityfan26 wrote:
We had a Nielsen box ages ago!! Do you think they can track through our Tivo's and DVR's? Someone's going to notice that I waste an awful lot of time on crappy TV!!

I did see ratings concerning DVR's and maybe it applies to TIVO too. It was called DVR penetration. I'm not sure how it plays in to the over all ratings, but it is tracked.

I'd love to see an analysis of our DVR's!! Sports and reality TV! Some day we'll find the DVR is also secretly taking video of us watching TV to track obesity rates!!

albean99 wrote:Arie does seem to be hinting with his latest tweet and what he said to our new member, rlove, about if he was TB filming would be after racing is done.

Whether the rating were down or not, the dates have got to be stepped up for the next Bachelor. If it wasn't for Arie and some of the other guys it would have been a total snooze fest.

kate123 wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

kate123 wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:It sounds like according to Nielsen's the numbers were down definitely, but then according to the other source the percentage could be up and that is entirely possible, too.
A bigger percentage of viewing audience may have been viewing that episode but it could have been less in actual viewers. If that make sense.
How's that for talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Sooooo, more people were watching, but only with one eye? With their backs turned to the screen? While they were on the phone?

Neilsen ratings have two numbers, ratings and share. Ratings is the percent of the total number of households that have televisions in the U.S. that are watching the show. For every 1 ratings point it represents 1 percent of the total television households in the U.S.

Share is the total number of households with the TV TURNED ON that are watching the show. So it's possible that one number could go up and the other go down. They look more at share than they do at rating. The goal is to win the night, in other words, to beat every other show that's on.

A good illustration of this would be a Christmas Day football game. The rating will probably not be high because not a lot of television households will have televisions turned on. But, if it's the only thing on, the share might be huge.

Probably more than you wanted to know.

ETA: Last May I was a Neilson household. I had to fill in a journal for a week for everything I watched. It was a pain in the butt since I usually have the TV on all the time but rarely watch it. You still have to fill everything in and just indicate you weren't watching. Will never agree to do that again.

Good info, kate. Thanks. Yeah, I was mostly just kidding around, but learning something new is always a good thing!

So B'ette competes mostly with reruns, so should do well share-wise. Harder to do in the fall, I would think.

Yes, there's an example of why you can't compare Neilson numbers between the Bachlorette and the Bachelor. In the summer, ratings go down. Fewer households watching television. However, since there are usually reruns on, the show should be able to get a better share. So, a Bachelor show with a lower rating could have the same number of viewers as a Bachelorette show with a higher share. Does that make sense??

realityfan26 wrote:

Isitreal wrote:

realityfan26 wrote:
We had a Nielsen box ages ago!! Do you think they can track through our Tivo's and DVR's? Someone's going to notice that I waste an awful lot of time on crappy TV!!

I did see ratings concerning DVR's and maybe it applies to TIVO too. It was called DVR penetration. I'm not sure how it plays in to the over all ratings, but it is tracked.

I'd love to see an analysis of our DVR's!! Sports and reality TV! Some day we'll find the DVR is also secretly taking video of us watching TV to track obesity rates!!