Episode 3 - 6/6 - Discussion - Spoilers

San wrote:

Alanna wrote:

San wrote:

Beeleever wrote:
I think the dot dot dot was producer induced. The whole...are you leaving...are you coming back? had producer written all over it. It was clearly a set-up for his return in Hong Kong. I just can't figure out the reason for the return, well, other than more drama. :greenman:

It's really a bummer that Bentley comes back the same week as JP's next date.

I bet at this point, he thinks Bentley is the third one in their relationship and will probably be moving to NYC with them.

That tweet from Ali about appreciating Roberto more was so.freaking.cute! I'm guessing someone got smothered with lots of love and kisses last night.

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The difference is in the way that Frank and Roberto were edited. Frank was edited as jealous, possessive, insecure, and very unsure of the situation with Ali topped with he had a girlfiriend. Plus, he left a good paying job to seek a dream, and he was living in his parents' basement.
On the other hand, Roberto was calm, confident, positive, self-assured, and completely self-supporting. Without saying too much, his father made it understood that Roberto was on the career track to success.
We could easily get the impression that if Roberto took the entire Frank edit into consideration that he wouldn't be terribly threatened by it.

For Ashley to have a happy ending and viewers believe it, Bentley has to return to give her some closure. TP needed to show Ashley having a connection to someone prior to Bentley leaving (JP). They showed JP being there for the "right reasons", and Ashley realizing JP is someone she can lean on. I liked what JP said, "We can touch on Bentley leaving, and then put it behind us, tonight is about Ashley and I". Ashley has such low self esteem, I think JP is really good for her. I liked that he reassured her that he was there for the her, he always says she's gorgeous, and I loved that he told her to quit apologizing. Her demeanor changed and she seemed more confident after that, she needs that.

I would bet that in the recap of next weeks show, Ashley will talk about how difficult it was for Bentley to leave but she was happy to have JP with her, that it was just what she needed... or something to that effect. Convenient the kiss comment was left in too.. :lovekiss: Now with Bentley gone Ashley will be open to explore other relationships, and they'll probably show her as more confident. JP will be there again for her when Bentley returns, convenient his return in the same ep of JP's next 1-1 date. Ashley promised him it would be better, but for it to be better, she will need to turn Bentley away before her date with JP.

Max64 wrote:For Ashley to have a happy ending and viewers believe it, Bentley has to return to give her some closure. TP needed to show Ashley having a connection to someone prior to Bentley leaving (JP). They showed JP being there for the "right reasons", and Ashley realizing JP is someone she can lean on. I liked what JP said, "We can touch on Bentley leaving, and then put it behind us, tonight is about Ashley and I". Ashley has such low self esteem, I think JP is really good for her. I liked that he reassured her that he was there for the her, he always says she's gorgeous, and I loved that he told her to quit apologizing. Her demeanor changed and she seemed more confident after that, she needs that.

I would bet that in the recap of next weeks show, Ashley will talk about how difficult it was for Bentley to leave but she was happy to have JP with her, that it was just what she needed... or something to that effect. Convenient the kiss comment was left in too.. :lovekiss: Now with Bentley gone Ashley will be open to explore other relationships, and they'll probably show her as more confident. JP will be there again for her when Bentley returns, convenient his return in the same ep of JP's next 1-1 date. Ashley promised him it would be better, but for it to be better, she will need to turn Bentley away before her date with JP.

Miss Cleo, is that you? Give me my $10 back from the early 2000s! And then go read Ash's blog in the other thread.

ETA: I also love that he told her she looks gorgeous when she looked like utter crap and agree that she seemed a lot more confident hanging out with him. So sweet.

Alanna wrote:

Max64 wrote:For Ashley to have a happy ending and viewers believe it, Bentley has to return to give her some closure. TP needed to show Ashley having a connection to someone prior to Bentley leaving (JP). They showed JP being there for the "right reasons", and Ashley realizing JP is someone she can lean on. I liked what JP said, "We can touch on Bentley leaving, and then put it behind us, tonight is about Ashley and I". Ashley has such low self esteem, I think JP is really good for her. I liked that he reassured her that he was there for the her, he always says she's gorgeous, and I loved that he told her to quit apologizing. Her demeanor changed and she seemed more confident after that, she needs that.

I would bet that in the recap of next weeks show, Ashley will talk about how difficult it was for Bentley to leave but she was happy to have JP with her, that it was just what she needed... or something to that effect. Convenient the kiss comment was left in too.. :lovekiss: Now with Bentley gone Ashley will be open to explore other relationships, and they'll probably show her as more confident. JP will be there again for her when Bentley returns, convenient his return in the same ep of JP's next 1-1 date. Ashley promised him it would be better, but for it to be better, she will need to turn Bentley away before her date with JP.

Miss Cleo, is that you? Give me my $10 back from the early 2000s! And then go read Ash's blog in the other thread.

ETA: I also love that he told her she looks gorgeous when she looked like utter crap and agree that she seemed a lot more confident hanging out with him. So sweet.

Haven't read it yet, but I'm on my way.. hope it's good!! :awesome:

Was I the only one who heard Bentley say "I Love you" to Ashley?

anders wrote:Was I the only one who heard Bentley say "I Love you" to Ashley?

I didn't hear him say that if you could tell me when you heard it, I have it pvr'd and could go check it out.

when they were hugging at the door right before he left - he also said it a couple other times when they were hugging. guess I'm the only one who heard it - and I'm half deaf.

NadjaM wrote:Haha my mom just texted me: "Could u tell with bentley's body language that he was deceptive? Notice he looked down or away...little to no eye contact. And she never noticed. Watch out for those things on your dates."

hey, your mom needs to do sessions with Ashley like the shrink did with Brad last season....one difference her advice would be good!!

anders wrote:when they were hugging at the door right before he left - he also said it a couple other times when they were hugging. guess I'm the only one who heard it - and I'm half deaf.

I heard an "I'll miss you" and something like "everything will be ok" but it's so hard to tell as he mumbles all the time... I think he's trying to sound sexy **gag**

northernviewer wrote:

anders wrote:when they were hugging at the door right before he left - he also said it a couple other times when they were hugging. guess I'm the only one who heard it - and I'm half deaf.

I heard an "I'll miss you" and something like "everything will be ok" but it's so hard to tell as he mumbles all the time... I think he's trying to sound sexy **gag**

He does mumble, and he's always licking his lips, he reminds me of a lizard. His hair annoys me, maybe it's his hairline?? Even before I knew anything about him, I didn't think he was attractive.. Gee I guess I just don't like him!

This is my theory on why MF had both the roast and Bentley as part of this season's show.

I think MF may have had the same concerns as Ashley; many would be hoping for Emily/Chantal as the B'ette and Ashley may be a disappointment to viewers. What MF needed to do to combat this is increase the attachment to Ashley. He's done this by having the viewers pity what she's gone thru and genuinely want a happy ending for her because she's been thru hell ~ with both the roast and Bentley.

In Epi 3 he's made the viewers feel disgust because of how's she's been treated. We know how mankind can rally, so she'll go from third runner up to a lead where viewers will watch to see if she ends up happy.

We'll watch her love story build and she may get closure/revenge with the Bentley fiasco in Hong Kong.

Guess what, if this is MF's plan, it may have just worked for him.

jojo47 wrote:This is my theory on why MF had both the roast and Bentley as part of this season's show.

I think MF may have had the same concerns as Ashley; many would be hoping for Emily/Chantal as the B'ette and Ashley may be a disappointment to viewers. What MF needed to do to combat this is increase the attachment to Ashley. He's done this by having the viewers pity what she's gone thru and genuinely want a happy ending for her because she's been thru hell ~ with both the roast and Bentley.

In Epi 3 he's made the viewers feel disgust because of how's she's been treated. We know how mankind can rally, so she'll go from third runner up to a lead where viewers will watch to see if she ends up happy.

We'll watch her love story build and she may get closure/revenge with the Bentley fiasco in Hong Kong.

Guess what, if this is MF's plan, it may have just worked for him.

I think you're giving MF too much credit in the empathy department I think he just capitalized on Ashley's insecurities about being 3rd choice for most as to who the 'ette would be. The creep :geek: is all about ratings and drama.