Re: Episode 3 - 6/6 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Beeleever Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:15 am

cupcakes wrote:
NadjaM wrote:
chicagoowl wrote:
NadjaM wrote:
chaslom4 wrote:I remember seeing a tweet from one of the producers I think, saying something about Ashley having to deal with some crazy stuff right then. Do we know what part of filming that would have been?

What crazy stuff? Her feelings were hurt by William's joke, she'd known Bentley for a little over two weeks and he decided to leave because of his daughter but left things open with a "dot dot dot"...I don't know if all of this intense drama is real. Chris Harrison mentioned in his blog that they "almost had to shut down production" and that makes me laugh. I call BS.

Oh yeah the "dot dot dot". What a ????? ! Is he for real?

The "dot dot dot", and the fact that she actually re-quoted it in her chat with Chris Harrison, was sort of amusing but mostly confusing and sad.

Dot dot dot.

Yeah. I can't believe he strung her along even as he was leaving with the dot dot dot crap. He was basically hinting to her that if she went the end and dumped her final 2 that he would be there waiting for her. Imagine if she listened to him and did that.

I think the dot dot dot was producer induced. The whole...are you leaving...are you coming back? had producer written all over it. It was clearly a set-up for his return in Hong Kong. I just can't figure out the reason for the return, well, other than more drama. :greenman:

by **Admin** Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:17 am

Beeleever wrote:
I think the dot dot dot was producer induced. The whole...are you leaving...are you coming back? had producer written all over it. It was clearly a set-up for his return in Hong Kong. I just can't figure out the reason for the return, well, other than more drama. :greenman:

It's really a bummer that Bentley comes back the same week as JP's next date.

by pbmax Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:19 am

chaslom4 wrote:
pbmax wrote:Some times you just don't figure in all the cost, before you start a project, clearly Ashley didn't. I really like Ashley, but clearly this is a monked-up season. I'm speaking what I have observed...and my life expereince. I haven't seen anything special going on with JP, even the cupcake line, hasn't given Ashley any goosebumps. I haven't seen any great interest on JP behalf, sure the talk. When I heard what he said in last week show,and watching him I realize it was about the competition. JP surely couldn't be on her radar, for now, if she's in a funk on her date with him over Bentley. Now if she become interested, then it's on the rebound, that has to sting. What I picked up tonight, if smooth operator, would have stayed, he would have been F1. Now if she picks someone, I think it will be JP, if he accept. Sure she has time left and it's still early but wouldn't that put herself in a situation of rushing or forcing some feelings, to end up with someone at the end of this. There's a story here, I'm trying to figure out where they're headed with it. Now that smooth operator has left, I don't know if the show will be fun any more. He made it worth watching. I can't blame the man for being honest, he might not been total honest to Ashley, but he was to the viewers. Ashley just wasn't his taste. It's all entertainment and he entertained.

Watching someone be deliberately cruel is not my idea of entertainment..sorry it just isn't!

Maybe this isn't the show to watch. This whole show is entertainment, not neccessary someone getting their heart broken which is all a part of it. Something that would require Ashley to do, no matter what she says or does. I don't find it neccessary to cut at every villian they make on this show (talking about myself now) to me it's a waste of time, because they come and go. They're there to ham it up for the viewers, to give them something to talk about...you know, keep them talking about the show.

by Beeleever Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:34 am

San wrote:
Beeleever wrote:
I think the dot dot dot was producer induced. The whole...are you leaving...are you coming back? had producer written all over it. It was clearly a set-up for his return in Hong Kong. I just can't figure out the reason for the return, well, other than more drama. :greenman:

It's really a bummer that Bentley comes back the same week as JP's next date.

You can say that again sister. Hopefully JP has the opportunity to give Ash a few more of those smoldering kisses before BadNewsBentley comes back, so Ash can feel the difference between the smokin' hot sear of JP's mouth and the frigid ice coming from big B's lips! :Nod:

by IrishGal Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:47 am

I am so disgusted that words escape me.

The only positive part of tonight is that JP is growing on me. Even DH commented, "Wow, he has a million dollar smile." I just wish we knew more about his background.

Very frustrated that they are hiding the rest of her F4. no no

ETA: DH also said he thinks Ashley if far more attractive than Emily. :yes:

by pbmax Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:00 am

cupcakes wrote:
NadjaM wrote:
chicagoowl wrote:
NadjaM wrote:
chaslom4 wrote:I remember seeing a tweet from one of the producers I think, saying something about Ashley having to deal with some crazy stuff right then. Do we know what part of filming that would have been?

What crazy stuff? Her feelings were hurt by William's joke, she'd known Bentley for a little over two weeks and he decided to leave because of his daughter but left things open with a "dot dot dot"...I don't know if all of this intense drama is real. Chris Harrison mentioned in his blog that they "almost had to shut down production" and that makes me laugh. I call BS.

Oh yeah the "dot dot dot". What a ????? ! Is he for real?

The "dot dot dot", and the fact that she actually re-quoted it in her chat with Chris Harrison, was sort of amusing but mostly confusing and sad.

Dot dot dot.

Yeah. I can't believe he strung her along even as he was leaving with the dot dot dot crap. He was basically hinting to her that if she went the end and dumped her final 2 that he would be there waiting for her. Imagine if she listened to him and did that.

I know this might be hard for some to believe, but maybe all that talk Bentley was doing was just that, talk. Covering up what was really happening. Ashley wasn't his taste, but something happen (it's like that sometime). Men tend to do alot of smack, to help with the denial. He was becoming whipped. So he decided to get out of town quick. Some of his action was different from that talk. I saw the look on his face when she was crying, why would he even care if she wasn't his taste. I saw the hug and the looking into her face, the caressing her face, he was leaving, why do all that. I think Ashley knew she was sensing something.

by causingchaos Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:10 am

I spend a lot of time as one of the boys (as a female). Honestly I don't think he felt one thing other than he wanted to get laid. Guys will say what they have to say to win competitions (and don't think guys in normal life don't set up competitions to get the chick for a fun night) and to get a piece. And women fall for it all the time. And they do laugh about it behind the scenes when the girl isn't there and they do say stuff about all the stuff that's a lie that she believes.

He was leaving the door open to come screw with her some more. It's fun for him. It's like a cat and mouse game and he's just having fun toying with her.

But yeah. Ashley heard nice words and swooned. Just like so many other women do.

by Guest Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:18 am

FYI: PI's from tonight's show

JP: 2 @ mansion, 4 during 1 on 1 date
Ryan P: 5
Jeff: 6
Bentley: 7
Ames: 1
William: 4
Blake: 5
Nick: 2
Ben F.: 2
Chris: 1
Lucas: 2

by Bloomers Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:49 am

causingchaos wrote:I spend a lot of time as one of the boys (as a female). Honestly I don't think he felt one thing other than he wanted to get laid. Guys will say what they have to say to win competitions (and don't think guys in normal life don't set up competitions to get the chick for a fun night) and to get a piece. And women fall for it all the time. And they do laugh about it behind the scenes when the girl isn't there and they do say stuff about all the stuff that's a lie that she believes.

He was leaving the door open to come screw with her some more. It's fun for him. It's like a cat and mouse game and he's just having fun toying with her.

But yeah. Ashley heard nice words and swooned. Just like so many other women do.

The sleuthers know that what the producers do to get all that "talk" is stand there off to the side unseen and ask prompting questions. Therefore, Bentley may have been asked, "Describe to us what you were thinking when Ashley realized you were leaving and she started crying." Hence, we got that whole derogatory monolog about unattractive crying women.

Did Bentley say all of this stuff? You can betcha he did! They asked him exceedingly prompting questions, and he satisfied them with all of that spewing garbage that we heard - every bit of it. Most of it we saw come right out of his mouth, and it wasn't cut or spliced, and the way that it happened is that he was answering his own thoughts directly to their specific questions.

by **Admin** Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:52 am

Coastal wrote:FYI: PI's from tonight's show

JP: 2 @ mansion, 4 during 1 on 1 date
Ryan P: 5
Jeff: 6
Bentley: 7
Ames: 1
William: 4
Blake: 5
Nick: 2
Ben F.: 2
Chris: 1
Lucas: 2

Thanks for doing this Coastal!! rock

by Alanna Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:06 am

San wrote:
Beeleever wrote:
I think the dot dot dot was producer induced. The whole...are you leaving...are you coming back? had producer written all over it. It was clearly a set-up for his return in Hong Kong. I just can't figure out the reason for the return, well, other than more drama. :greenman:

It's really a bummer that Bentley comes back the same week as JP's next date.

I bet at this point, he thinks Bentley is the third one in their relationship and will probably be moving to NYC with them.

That tweet from Ali about appreciating Roberto more was so.freaking.cute! I'm guessing someone got smothered with lots of love and kisses last night. seeing hearts

by **Admin** Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:09 am

Alanna wrote:
San wrote:
Beeleever wrote:
I think the dot dot dot was producer induced. The whole...are you leaving...are you coming back? had producer written all over it. It was clearly a set-up for his return in Hong Kong. I just can't figure out the reason for the return, well, other than more drama. :greenman:

It's really a bummer that Bentley comes back the same week as JP's next date.

I bet at this point, he thinks Bentley is the third one in their relationship and will probably be moving to NYC with them.

That tweet from Ali about appreciating Roberto more was so.freaking.cute! I'm guessing someone got smothered with lots of love and kisses last night.

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