Bachelorette 21 - Jenn Tran - Sept 3 - FRC - ATFR - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Post FRC/ATFR epi here.

Ok people I need lots of comments now since I can't watch the finale (or Golden Bachelorette) since DirectTV doesn't show ABC anymore. Hulu in the morning I guess now boo

Also after reading the spoiler now I'm curious what will happen in the ATFR [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I'll try to update my thoughts but as we're in the same time zone, you might as well get a good night's sleep and catch it in the morning! haha

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] haha I’m going to be looking here and on Twitter what happens and then I’ll catch it in the morning!

Devin is up first meeting Jenn's family. He is nervous and hopes he is good enough.

Mom looks skeptical. They ask about the different ethnicity which isn't an issue for him although he has never dated an Asian woman. He explains about his father not being present for him.

When Mom talks with Jenn, Jenn says Devin is willing to learn more about the Vietnamese culture and would like their children to learn the language. Mom is still not thrilled and is pushing that this isn't enough time and they need more time. Clearly she doesn't watch this show.

Jeremy, Jonathan and some other guy are here for support. Jesse says, clearly they know something is up.

Jenn's brother James can see why Jenn and Devin have bonded over their family dynamics. James then talks with Devin and asks some good questions. Devin answers well and asks for their blessing. He says he can't because he hasn't talked to the other guy. He understands, but it still hurts.

Devin and Jenn have a chat after and he tells him to not worry and get in his head, but he is doubting himself and if he is the one. Lots of doubts. They are really stressing this. It is all rather somber.

mTP both on the same day!! Why?

Marcus still not ready. And don’t think brother is going to share info he learned from Marcus’ exes

Sorry I posted in the wrong thread and brought everything over at once. Thanks [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for catching it! That's what happens when you flip to other threads during commercials.


Marcus is next to meet the family. He opens up about his family dynamic. Her brother is concerned about Marcus being emotionally unavailable for Jenn...like he past boyfriends. James is very thoughtful in his questions.

The ladies grill Marcus about if he is there yet and he clearly isn't. I don't know why they are dragging this. He isn't into her. That is that. He is not going to get there. If you have to try so hard, it's not there and never will be!!! Her brother tells it like it is. She doesn't want to see it. OMG...I have had friends like this. You can tell them till you are blue in the face, but they don't want to listen and either does Jenn.

I really like Jenn's brother James. He is thoughtful, well spoken and has good advice. Tears all around.

LCD with Devin. Jenn looks so cute in that bathing suit.

They have some kind of traditional Hawaiian ceremony. Devin is still in his head and having doubts that he is the one. She is trying to reassure him. He says a lot of his problems are self created. This is kind of depressing.

Cute makeup commercial with Trista and Charity.

Evening portion of Devin's LCD. Devin wants her to know that he will fight for her and support her.

James is watching from the audience and smiles as Devin is talking to Jenn. All the ladies in the audience are aweeeeing. He tells her he trusts her and she knows he sees her completely. He has a gift for her. It's the green stone he got from the shaman on their first date in NZ. He was told to give it to the person he was sure about. Tears in the audience.

She tells him she loves him. She realizes how much he means to her.

OMG ... New series ... Dr. on the Love Boat ... Ooops ... Doctor Odyssey. So cheesy looking. They are really pushing their new series. I won't be watching either of them.

Jenn depressed about Marcus and worried she is repeating history. YES YOU ARE!!!

Marcus is having a chat with Jesse. More doubts. Enough! Just kick her to the curb. Oh, he may have clarity. He could be feeling in love. Sure. Not buying it.

Jenn shows up in Marcus's room and has a chat. She is still trying to get him to say ILY. I am so over this guy. She is still acting stupid. How is she not embarrassed by this? I would be. It is so demeaning to her. She has zero self respect. This is why she is single if these are the kind of guys she picks. He is stringing her along. He still wants to give it a try. She is still thinking about it. OMG.

Poor Devin watching this. He is still not the first choice. What a mess.

The sad part is that I have friends like this.  



She has zero self respect. I would have kicked him to the curb when he first pulled this crap.

Finally, she says she is done and he is still trying to pull her in by saying he is afraid he will never find someone like her. She will give love to herself. She doesn't want to be taken for granted. I am exhausted watching this. He is still crying. I don't care anymore. Too little, too late.

So they are going to skip over all the stuff out there about him and still give him a sympathetic edit. BS.

Audience is listening to Marcus with Jesse and they are stone cold. James is almost rolling his eyes in the audience. Marcus says it is still hard letting her go. Still playing games.

So we believed for months that someone tipped James off and we would hear it tonight at MTP. shame on us for believing it.

This is one weird live finale. Can’t wait to see this unfold

Kelsey is in the audience with her dad and Joan.

Jenn is choosing herself. She tells Jesse she won't let Devin propose, she will propose, but Jesse won't let us see that until we talk to Jenn...who is crying backstage. WTH?