Bachelorette Ukraine - Season 1 - Ksenia Mishina - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I appreciate all your efforts @natik thanks.

I had to stop and think about the time zone difference between the US and the Ukraine; it's 7 hours. Yet you take the time to bring us the story
@GuardianAngel started a new threat "Where Are You From" and I think it will be interesting to share our cultures and current trends and patterns across the world.
Is your language hard to learn? I sincerely believe that the more I watch I kinda understand the nature but in fantasy I will one day learn a little bit. So far, 'dak' is yes, correct? I'm getting there!

I'm excited for the outcome no matter what happens because this season was unique within itself. Ksenia is a beautiful and special mom and the guys were great, especially Sasha who I will check out on social media. Does he know English?

Listen, no offense to any contestant who come to the show. They have their reasons. I still like Eugene, he's older and one day will find his equal. I wish them all well.

@Idlemess Thank you gorgeous lady for your interest and support

I am not in Ukraine. I am living for years now in Germany. But still there are 6 hours time difference. I am trying to post mostly after my shifts before going to bed.

It is in fact a tough language to learn but if you are really passionate about it than nothing is possible. But you are doing great with the episodes. You are seeing a lot of important things even without knowing the language. That is huge. Yes "da" means "yes".

It is an amazing season. I enjoyed it so far pretty much. All the pieces felt into each other. I think I am gonna rewatch it in the future quite often.

Almost forgot, yes Sasha know English so you can write him on IG. He often answers his followers and mostly his answers are very funny.

I am behind but I'm following along here. Thank you everyone for posting and @natik for all your help especially while taking the time after work.

I've watched episode's but not full ones, so I appreciate the recaps! It all makes sense once I read the recaps here, so thank you all!

@natik  If you have time, could you please explain what the argument between Andrej and Ksenia was about?  It seemed to go on and on the whole episode.  Also, the pictures of Andrej and his mother - did something happen to her, or, as you've already said he didn't have a loving childhood, perhaps she was an absent mother?  Honestly, I don't know if Ksenia likes him or not.  She could have kissed him in the spa if she really wanted to - I've seen messier kisses before .

I can see how they are trying to make Aleksey a viable alternative to Sasha.  He is going to be dependable and a rock to Ksenia, and will do absolutely all it takes to make her happy

At the rose ceremony, was there another misunderstanding between Sasha and Ksenia?  She seemed unimpressed with his gift and he seemed deflated afterwards  

@Idlemess I agree with you about Evgeny. I like him too, but I suspect he may be happier with a "princess" type, rather than an independent woman like Ksenia.

@GuardianAngel Glad to see you are still interested! You are welcome.

Agent99 wrote:@natik  If you have time, could you please explain what the argument between Andrej and Ksenia was about?  It seemed to go on and on the whole episode.  Also, the pictures of Andrej and his mother - did something happen to her, or, as you've already said he didn't have a loving childhood, perhaps she was an absent mother?  Honestly, I don't know if Ksenia likes him or not.  She could have kissed him in the spa if she really wanted to - I've seen messier kisses before .

I can see how they are trying to make Aleksey a viable alternative to Sasha.  He is going to be dependable and a rock to Ksenia, and will do absolutely all it takes to make her happy

At the rose ceremony, was there another misunderstanding between Sasha and Ksenia?  She seemed unimpressed with his gift and he seemed deflated afterwards  

@Idlemess I agree with you about Evgeny.  I like him too, but I suspect he may be happier with a "princess" type, rather than an independent woman like Ksenia.

Andrej`s parents are divorced and when he was a kid they were fighting all the time. So they were busy with their toxic relationship and not with their son. And later when they got divorced Andrej lost the connection to his father. That is the reason why he is thirsty for attention, validation and love. To be honest with you I think Ksenia and Andrej both don't like each other. I think the producers insisted too keep him longer because of the whole triangle and friendship thing. Because it causes more drama for the viewers. Judging by her body language she is not very excited to be intimate with him.

So they had that group date and it started with kinda like a game. Everyone should say what he was worried about and then let it go and forget and forgive. Ksenia started with Evgeny. She said that she heard that he doesn't want to be a father figure for her son and that he is not going to take part in his parenting because it is not his own child. Evgeny tried to explain it but basically it didn't change anything because the sense of what he was saying stayed the same.

Then she said to both Sasha and Andrej that she is still unsure whether they are interested in her. And that was the reason why Andrej ticked off. He said that he thought they already discussed that topic during their last date and that it was all good. He got more into detail what they were discussing during their date and Sasha was starting to feel uncomfortable. And Sasha explained it in his ITM. He said it felt for him like Andrej and Ksenia are having a deeper connection and kinda like building already love together. He continued that he thought that him and Ksenia had something special but now he doesn't think so anymore.
So he said after the fight to Ksenia that he is still guarding himself because he is scared that she is going to hurt him.
Later during the one on one conversation she asked him why he thinks that she is going to hurt him? He said that he had already two divorces and before that he opened up to his ex-wife`s but was hurt that both times it didn´t worked out. He said that this is the reason why he is taking time to learn more about her because he wants to be sure that this time it works out for him. On a side note I have a lot of respect for him because he didn´t once blamed his ex-wife`s for anything. He was praising them and didn´t even once said a bad word about them. Instead he took all the blame on him.
Ksenia said to him that he needs to understand that she is different. And she asked did you learned your lesson after the divorces and he answered "yes". She continued "Trust Sasha, it is important for you to trust me. Because I don't want for you to have strange thoughts going through your mind".
Regarding the rose ceremony I think he was a little bit disappointed because he was expecting a more serious sign from her. I am gonna explain what I mean. During their conversation Sasha tried to say to her that he is in love with her. But because it is hard for him to say it openly he said it in his own unique way. He said to her that he thought about a thing. Kind of a rate system for feelings. He said he has two options in his rate system. The first one there is love and the second one there is no love. And going by his rate system he is in love with her. That is the reason why she was beaming at one point during their conversation. So in his video message before the rose ceremony he suggested for her to think about her own rate system. And during the rose ceremony she said something like, her rate system is if there is a rose or if there is no rose. And today there is a rose for him. I guess he expected something more substantial. I guess for him it sounded more like "Today I have feelings for you but tomorrow maybe not anymore".

Regarding Aleksey it is interesting what Ksenia said during their date on her ITM. She said "this man would love me and my son". See what she did there?! She didn´t said "I can see love him". Plus I think you can buy the love of a kid maybe for hours or days but you will still be a "brick" to that kid.

In the moment and from what I see on social media, imo there’s no coincidence that Ksenia and Sasha are always posting almost at the same time Doing their stories and she highlights his YouTube show. Always! What does that mean? Beats me but it’s interesting.

The other guys are randomly all over the place so who knows

Idlemess wrote:In the moment and from what I see on social media, imo there’s no coincidence that Ksenia and Sasha are always posting almost at the same time Doing their stories and she highlights his YouTube show. Always! What does that mean? Beats me but it’s interesting.

The other guys are randomly all over the place so who knows

Oh I see you did some sleuthing work here. A new interview with Ksenia was published today. I think you might be interested in some snippets of it. Give me a little bit time and I am gonna translate the important things. She was also asked regarding the YouTube Show. She said she thinks the idea is amazing and that she likes it very much.

Ok guys I have an update regarding the episodes. I am sorry but the channel made it so confusing that season. So my first information that we are going to have 9 episode was correct.

So next episode Ksenia is going visit each men in their homes.

Episode 8 she is going to meet the parents of the last three men.

And the Finale the two finalists are going to meet her parents, individual dates and the final choice.

On 25th of December there is going to be "After the Final Rose" show.

Episode 7 link:

https://uteta.tv/movies/peredachi/74883-holostjachka-1-sezon-7-vypusk-jefir-041220.html

Ummm what did I just watched? Like what in the bleep bleep happened? I’ve never wanted to understand a show as much as I do this one, especially this episode.

Q&A session. Was that an opportunity to throw Sasha under the bus? What was that about? Their feelings for Ksenia?
So strange!
Talking to the therapist , Ksenia was sitting and acting interested with the pillow on her lap however during the chat about Sasha her body language relaxed and there’s no pillow 🧐
To me, she smirks quite a bit.

Interesting date choices.

I see you long lens, cut away from lots of kisses producers...
Sasha date was interesting because they’re questioning his interest yet can’t hide his interest? Ah hello @natik ugh! If I were him I will be confuse as well. So intimate and relax. I was leaning in to their scenes. She’s touchy with him. A lot! Like a lot!

Flashy and impressive Eugene. I still like him

Scene from Pretty Woman and all the trimmings Thanks Aleksey.

By now, you probably realized I rushed through this to ask about Andrej and his bleep bleep drama. OMG what was THAT all about? He wanted to leave? DRAMA.

The previews bugs me!!!! More drama!