Bachelorette Ukraine - Season 1 - Ksenia Mishina - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Agent99 wrote:Thanks @natik.  Yes the rose was a very suggestive move from Ksenia.  Why on earth didn't Sasha pick up on it?     If these two don't get their act together, it will be very frustrating watching .  But I agree, Sasha is a unique person.  Even looks wise, he is not handsome yet his charisma makes him so appealing. Maybe it's those eyes that drill right through you.  From my perspective though, his quirky energy and mannerisms probably would get on my nerves after a while

Well the funny part is in real life he is not quirky at all. He is a really quiet and calm guy. And doesn't like to be in the center of attention. He is staying always in the background. About his mannerism I think it is more a protecting shield because he doesn't feel comfortable on the project. Outside of the project you can hardly see anything from his mannerism.
I would say he is more like a nerd guy. By the way his first degree is Master of Physics. And the second is Bachelor of International Sport management.

Idlemess wrote:
@Agent99 I don’t think that Sasha is an alpha male however I do think that he was aware and perhaps is being overly cautious. I’m very curious about the premise of the next episode. It looks like things are about to get messy. Lol, I’m interpreting a few seconds shown but there’s a look on Sasha’s face and boy do I want to know what he’s feeling/ thinking.

IMO, at least for now, it’s like watching other versions of the show. Ksenia and the guys, Ksenia and Sasha and Sasha and everyone else . It was like this from episode 1.

Can’t wait to read your thoughts @natik. Thanks so much!

The next episode there is going to be a group date where they need to act. Ksenia said in the last episode at the end of the rose ceremony that the first three weeks she was trying to learn more about the guy`s life for example about their hobbies. And next week it is time for the guys to learn more about her life.

So the date is all about acting because Ksenia is an actress, the guys are going to experience how it is when Ksenia is acting in a scene with another actor. That is the reason for Sasha`s face and for the shocking faces of the others. It is because they are watching how Ksenia is making out with another actor guy. Later they all are going playing parts in acting scenes.

The other group date is a press conference. I wrote about that group date before. On that press conference there is going to be drama some interesting and not so good details are going to reappear about one of the contestants. And Ksenia is going to ask him to leave the project.

Who ever thought up how this particular show should be produced is doing the right thing. It is important for the guys to be aware of how things can look for an actress on set and through the media. They will have to know how to handle that atmosphere and everything it implies. He (F1) will need to be understanding and open minded.

That episode should be an eye opener for the lot of them. Are they confident to be a supportive partner in the background? Would they want to compete for attention or control. ETC!!!

@Agent99 @Idlemess

I see you both are paying attention at "looks". Are you interested to watch the after the episode shows?

There are two out. In the first one Ksenia, Sasha, Ihor, Artem and Vladimir were in the studio. Maybe you want to watch at the "looks" there. As a reminder the after the episode shows they are filming in real time so everyone knows who the F1 is during the filming.

Let me know and I am gonna post the links for it.

natik wrote:@Agent99 @Idlemess

I see you both are paying attention at "looks". Are you interested to watch the after the episode shows?

There are two out. In the first one Ksenia, Sasha, Ihor, Artem and Vladimir were in the studio. Maybe you want to watch at the "looks" there. As a reminder the after the episode shows they are filming in real time so everyone knows who the F1 is during the filming.

Let me know and I am gonna post the links for it.

YES! YES! YES!
I’m off today and this in a way has been relaxing my mind from work.
Yes
Thank you. I meant to ask about that because I was curious following Artem’s boot. These guys seems like a lively bunch.
Is there a way to suggest English subtitles for this show? Maybe too much money plus not enough of an international audience.

Idlemess wrote:
Who ever thought up how this particular show should be produced is doing the right thing. It is important for the guys to be aware of how things can look for an actress on set and through the media. They will have to know how to handle that atmosphere and everything it implies.  He (F1) will need to be understanding and open minded.

That episode should be an eye opener for the lot of them. Are they confident to be a supportive partner in the background? Would they want to compete for attention or control. ETC!!!

Agree with you!

Ok so here we go. Here is the link for the first after the episode show:

https://uteta.tv/movies/peredachi/73122-kak-vyjti-zamuzh-6-sezon-1-vypusk-jefir-301020.html

Unfortunately there is not enough international audience for it. But ask me when you want to know what they are talking about.

In the first half Ksenia is on the couch in the studio. Grisha asked her How things are going and she said everything is great. Grisha asked what was the toughest part during the project and she answered to make the right decisions and to make the right choices further on she said "but I'm absolutely sure that I made the right decisions for me". And after that Grisha asked her if she fell in love and she said "yes", she said she gained on the project what she was looking for. She is in love and very happy.

natik wrote:
I would say he is more like a nerd guy. By the way his first degree is Master of Physics. And the second is Bachelor of International Sport management.

Physics, wow! Impressive.  Sport management is interesting though, perhaps he thought at some stage he would embark on a different career.

I can't wait for the next ep. It looks intense from the preview, and I think I know who is leaving.  I haven't been this way about the franchise for a long time.  It just shows what can happen when you have an exceptional lead and great contestants.

Will definitely watch the after show.  Watching this love story unfold has me on tenterhooks

Agent99 wrote:

natik wrote:
I would say he is more like a nerd guy. By the way his first degree is Master of Physics. And the second is Bachelor of International Sport management.

Physics, wow! Impressive.  Sport management is interesting though, perhaps he thought at some stage he would embark on a different career.

I can't wait for the next ep. It looks intense from the preview, and I think I know who is leaving.  I haven't been this way about the franchise for a long time.  It just shows what can happen when you have an exceptional lead and great contestants.

Will definitely watch the after show.  Watching this love story unfold has me on tenterhooks

Same here! Guessing when she's down to fewer guys, things will heat up individually.
I'm consuming all the info I can just to satisfy my curiosity @natik.

I watched the after show and I have a few questions to get a better idea of the set up.
I like that Grisha hosted.
Why is there a panel again? I recognized the ex-bachelor
Ksenia looked great, light on her feet and happy. Loved her outfit!
Okay, the guys. Were they chosen because of airtime and relevant for each episode? I know everyone can't show up, so who gets to be on?
Wasted a lot of time on "failed memory" and photographer guys
Artem is strange and he loves the camera
Nasar is calculating and fishy (watching his eyes)
I like Ihor
And..... poor Sasha couldn't stop smiling (his eyes) and he seems relax. He beamed when Ksenia came out. Compared to the other guys who seemed appreciative, his looks were notably different

Tell us the goods. I'm interested to know what your community thinks. Of course up to these past three episodes. Thank you!

@Agent99 Same here. There is a lot of buzz for the season everywhere in the social media and press. People are counting days till the new episode. They are on the fence.

@Idlemess The panel are called the experts. But the experts are constantly changing from show to show. It depends on the topic they are discussing. The experts can be ex-contestants from the Bachelor seasons, some public persons like singers, actors or bloggers, or psychologists/physiognomist.

After each episode they are discussing a topic that was relevant during the episode. For example during episode two was the hijacking thing with Nazar and the topic of the after show was "initiative". The discussed who should be initiative first the woman or the man. If there is too much initiative or not. How can you be initiative in the right way.
So since Nazar hijacked Ksenia from Ihor they both were invited for the after show. Artem is best buddy of Nazar and he is on his side that's why he was invited as well. Plus he left pretty soon so they needed for him to show up on the after show because when he is leaving they are not gonna invite him again. Then it is the end for him at the after shows as well.
Vladimir was invited because he left in the second episode and they wanted to know how his things were going since he left the show.
And Sasha... well Sasha was invited to distract the viewers. Usually the producers are inviting F1, F2 or F3 to the first after show. They want for the people to think that those contestants are gonna leave the show early. And each new season they are switching it , so there is no pattern. There can be the F1 in the first after show episode, next season it is the F3, the next it is again F1, the next it is F2. They are mixing it constantly.

For example yesterday and today they filmed the after shows for the next episodes. There were some backstage videos and screens of it.

Those are from yesterday:





And those are from today:






In our community we discussed a lot the date between Ksenia and Sasha. We chatted practically the whole night through because we were fascinated how real it felt. Usually we got used to see some superficial relationship on the project. The depth and substance was missing in the last few seasons of the Bachelor. It was more about making out with each other and who had more kisses and such a thing.

With Sasha and Ksenia it was intense in every single way. It was fascinating to watch them, how they looked at each other, you saw the sparkles flying. How they interact with each other, what they said, what they thought. It was real, like it usually is in the real world where people fall for each other but are unsure or struggling with how they feel, how they should interpret certain signs, how they should interact, andd how they are trying to get to know each other better so they can be more open about what they feel.
Mostly the viewers are commenting that they are watching because they want to know how the love story between Ksenia and Sasha is going to be unfold in the next episodes. A lot of them are also commenting that Sasha is making the show without him it would be not as entertaining as it is now. Of course there are some haters but they are in the minority, the major part of the audience is crazy about Sasha. There are so many fan sites for Sasha or Sasha and Ksenia as a couple it is mind blowing. And also a lot of fan videos. The most discussed IG post on the channel site and the official show site are the ones with Sasha or Sasha and Ksenia.

There were a photo shooting Ksenia had for a magazine. And under a post from that photo shooting they quoted Sasha what he said in one of the episodes. And people started asking them if it is a hint and they answered no but they are all rooting for Sasha. He is their favorite.





Source:
https://www.instagram.com/ellert_a/
https://www.instagram.com/grisha_reshetnik/
https://www.instagram.com/karavanistoriy/

Hello @natik can you post the link to the post show of Episode 2/3?
TYIA as always

@Idlemess The one you already watched was for episode 2. Haven‘t found the link for Episode 3 yet. I am gonna post it if I find one.

The episode was on FIRE! Here is the link for Episode 4:

https://uteta.tv/movies/peredachi/73815-holostjachka-1-sezon-4-vypusk-jefir-131120.html


Can not wait for your comments and questions. Enjoy!