Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Mar 9th & 10th Finale - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

11minny wrote:snipped..
Remember those 2 big suitcases that she was rumored to have a week or so ago at the airport?  They may have had plans to spend some time together privately anyway.  They need it now, more than ever.  The longer that we don't hear from them, IMO, the better, as they will be making some plans to be together.

Nice speculation! I hope that's the case.

leavers wrote:

pbmax wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

gabriele wrote:Really? Barb is completely OTT but she explained exactly why she had such a negative impression of Madi. She said Madi didn’t want to come in and meet Peter’s family, made them wait 3 hours and didn’t apologize for that, said she didn’t love Peter and wouldn’t accept a proposal. How would any parent feel hearing that?! Barb confronted Madi and Madi couldn’t even offer the slightest olive branch. A complete and total lack of humility and respect for her elders. Barb was awful too. Sorry but Madi’s conduct was as unchristian as it gets. jmo

Speak on it! I absolutely loved it because it was funny as hell to me, but Barb shouldn’t have acted like she did for her son’s sake. & Madi shouldn’t have reacted like she did, if she truly loves Peter & wants to be with him. At the end of the day, that’s Peter’s mom & Barb isn’t going anywhere. Madi was very unchristian like to me tonight. She was smug and classless, refused to see where she could’ve handled things better, and is extremely self righteous. All jmo.

I guess Jesus shouldn't have turned over those tables.  
It's not About being self righteous but God's righteousness. I think that's Barb biggest problem with Madison is that she's a Christian while Peter and herself are not. She prefer him to stay going out and clubbing and to say she prayed, obviously she doesn't know how God works. I was listening to what his father said when Peter came to tell them his decision, he said I hope he chose what we been hoping for and is happy with the decision. So he should be happy with what they want. I was expecting her to accept Peter decision but was totally shocked to see her behavior and I was still expecting her to say something nice but didn't. I've seen some despicable things on this show but this takes the cake and I don't think her attitude is going to get better. She better watch herself "no weapon form against me, shall prosper".

The Weber family are Christian. Catholic, I believe. Peter went to a Christian school.

@leavers Some evangelical Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians based on my understanding. But let’s say the Webers are not Christian as implied, then isn’t Madison violating one of the tenets of her faith that she should not be unequally yoked with non believers on a show that cast a guy whose rise to fame was hitting it 4x in a windmill? I just find it unreal that evangelical Christians like Madi, Hannah B, Luke P etc show up this show that IMO violates the very tenets of what they believe in, it blows my mind for real season after season....all jmo.

Didn't Peter attend Baylor University? Baylor is a Baptist University and is considered quite conservative. If he graduated from Baylor, religion is certainly not foreign to him.

mercieme wrote:

leavers wrote:

pbmax wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

gabriele wrote:Really? Barb is completely OTT but she explained exactly why she had such a negative impression of Madi. She said Madi didn’t want to come in and meet Peter’s family, made them wait 3 hours and didn’t apologize for that, said she didn’t love Peter and wouldn’t accept a proposal. How would any parent feel hearing that?! Barb confronted Madi and Madi couldn’t even offer the slightest olive branch. A complete and total lack of humility and respect for her elders. Barb was awful too. Sorry but Madi’s conduct was as unchristian as it gets. jmo

Speak on it! I absolutely loved it because it was funny as hell to me, but Barb shouldn’t have acted like she did for her son’s sake. & Madi shouldn’t have reacted like she did, if she truly loves Peter & wants to be with him. At the end of the day, that’s Peter’s mom & Barb isn’t going anywhere. Madi was very unchristian like to me tonight. She was smug and classless, refused to see where she could’ve handled things better, and is extremely self righteous. All jmo.

I guess Jesus shouldn't have turned over those tables.  
It's not About being self righteous but God's righteousness. I think that's Barb biggest problem with Madison is that she's a Christian while Peter and herself are not. She prefer him to stay going out and clubbing and to say she prayed, obviously she doesn't know how God works. I was listening to what his father said when Peter came to tell them his decision, he said I hope he chose what we been hoping for and is happy with the decision. So he should be happy with what they want. I was expecting her to accept Peter decision but was totally shocked to see her behavior and I was still expecting her to say something nice but didn't. I've seen some despicable things on this show but this takes the cake and I don't think her attitude is going to get better. She better watch herself "no weapon form against me, shall prosper".

The Weber family are Christian. Catholic, I believe. Peter went to a Christian school.

@leavers Some evangelical Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians based on my understanding. But let’s say the Webers are not Christian as implied, then isn’t Madison violating one of the tenets of her faith that she should not be unequally yoked with non believers on a show that cast a guy whose rise to fame was hitting it 4x in a windmill? I just find it unreal that evangelical Christians like Madi, Hannah B, Luke P etc show up this show that IMO violates the very tenets of what they believe in, it blows my mind for real season after season....all jmo.

I don't think Madi cares if they were Catholic. As for Barb, she made it clear that they are not religious. So, that's on PETER for making it seem like he was open to it and obviously, he was as he went to church in LA.

mercieme wrote:

leavers wrote:

pbmax wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

gabriele wrote:Really? Barb is completely OTT but she explained exactly why she had such a negative impression of Madi. She said Madi didn’t want to come in and meet Peter’s family, made them wait 3 hours and didn’t apologize for that, said she didn’t love Peter and wouldn’t accept a proposal. How would any parent feel hearing that?! Barb confronted Madi and Madi couldn’t even offer the slightest olive branch. A complete and total lack of humility and respect for her elders. Barb was awful too. Sorry but Madi’s conduct was as unchristian as it gets. jmo

Speak on it! I absolutely loved it because it was funny as hell to me, but Barb shouldn’t have acted like she did for her son’s sake. & Madi shouldn’t have reacted like she did, if she truly loves Peter & wants to be with him. At the end of the day, that’s Peter’s mom & Barb isn’t going anywhere. Madi was very unchristian like to me tonight. She was smug and classless, refused to see where she could’ve handled things better, and is extremely self righteous. All jmo.

I guess Jesus shouldn't have turned over those tables.  
It's not About being self righteous but God's righteousness. I think that's Barb biggest problem with Madison is that she's a Christian while Peter and herself are not. She prefer him to stay going out and clubbing and to say she prayed, obviously she doesn't know how God works. I was listening to what his father said when Peter came to tell them his decision, he said I hope he chose what we been hoping for and is happy with the decision. So he should be happy with what they want. I was expecting her to accept Peter decision but was totally shocked to see her behavior and I was still expecting her to say something nice but didn't. I've seen some despicable things on this show but this takes the cake and I don't think her attitude is going to get better. She better watch herself "no weapon form against me, shall prosper".

The Weber family are Christian. Catholic, I believe. Peter went to a Christian school.

@leavers Some evangelical Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians based on my understanding. But let’s say the Webers are not Christian as implied, then isn’t Madison violating one of the tenets of her faith that she should not be unequally yoked with non believers on a show that cast a guy whose rise to fame was hitting it 4x in a windmill? I just find it unreal that evangelical Christians like Madi, Hannah B, Luke P etc show up this show that IMO violates the very tenets of what they believe in, it blows my mind for real season after season....all jmo.

First I would say they should ask God for a husband or wife but being on the show doesn't violate your faith, it's how you conduct yourself and Madison conducted herself well on the other hand Hannah B and Luke didn't..but God still loves them.

iamreal2u wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Sharleen's Flare recap: https://www.flare.com/bachelor/bachelor-episode-12-recap-peter-season-24-finale-2020/

Even what Sharleen is saying here does not make any sense.  It was the second time she is meeting the Webers.  Geeze she's in the revewal wedding album:

If he had kept Fantasy-Suite-Ultimatum-gate to himself, especially since the rest of their relationship was so great, his mother wouldn’t have had the same motivation (or ammunition) to go into that first meeting on the offence like she did.

This is the first time ever that I disagree with Sharleen. I also thought she was sprouting the official line. I have to say that I was disappointed.

Sprite wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Sharleen's Flare recap: https://www.flare.com/bachelor/bachelor-episode-12-recap-peter-season-24-finale-2020/

Even what Sharleen is saying here does not make any sense.  It was the second time she is meeting the Webers.  Geeze she's in the revewal wedding album:

If he had kept Fantasy-Suite-Ultimatum-gate to himself, especially since the rest of their relationship was so great, his mother wouldn’t have had the same motivation (or ammunition) to go into that first meeting on the offence like she did.

This is the first time ever that I disagree with Sharleen. I also thought she was sprouting the official line. I have to say that I was disappointed.

I agree with you. If podcasts are going to get the current contestants, they are under the control of TPTB and have to spout the company line. If you remember listening to RS, he said as much which is why he can't get any current people anymore.

@Sprite IA I almost always agree with her and she brings out good points that I don't necessarily think of.

This time I was looking for the writer's name, wondering if it was really her.

GuardianAngel wrote:@Sprite IA  I almost always agree with her and she brings out good points that I don't necessarily think of.

This time I was looking for the writer's name, wondering if it was really her.

It was that first part about “feeling” for Barb that was weird. Sharleen should know better.
The rest seemed to live up to her usual standard IMO.

I used to love her posts, but lately she seems to have some strange opinions. Last year she went off on Cassie after the fence jump, and I had to sit on my hands for a while to not write a really rude comment.
JMO

pbmax wrote:

mercieme wrote:

leavers wrote:

pbmax wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

gabriele wrote:Really? Barb is completely OTT but she explained exactly why she had such a negative impression of Madi. She said Madi didn’t want to come in and meet Peter’s family, made them wait 3 hours and didn’t apologize for that, said she didn’t love Peter and wouldn’t accept a proposal. How would any parent feel hearing that?! Barb confronted Madi and Madi couldn’t even offer the slightest olive branch. A complete and total lack of humility and respect for her elders. Barb was awful too. Sorry but Madi’s conduct was as unchristian as it gets. jmo

Speak on it! I absolutely loved it because it was funny as hell to me, but Barb shouldn’t have acted like she did for her son’s sake. & Madi shouldn’t have reacted like she did, if she truly loves Peter & wants to be with him. At the end of the day, that’s Peter’s mom & Barb isn’t going anywhere. Madi was very unchristian like to me tonight. She was smug and classless, refused to see where she could’ve handled things better, and is extremely self righteous. All jmo.

I guess Jesus shouldn't have turned over those tables.  
It's not About being self righteous but God's righteousness. I think that's Barb biggest problem with Madison is that she's a Christian while Peter and herself are not. She prefer him to stay going out and clubbing and to say she prayed, obviously she doesn't know how God works. I was listening to what his father said when Peter came to tell them his decision, he said I hope he chose what we been hoping for and is happy with the decision. So he should be happy with what they want. I was expecting her to accept Peter decision but was totally shocked to see her behavior and I was still expecting her to say something nice but didn't. I've seen some despicable things on this show but this takes the cake and I don't think her attitude is going to get better. She better watch herself "no weapon form against me, shall prosper".

The Weber family are Christian. Catholic, I believe. Peter went to a Christian school.

@leavers Some evangelical Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians based on my understanding. But let’s say the Webers are not Christian as implied, then isn’t Madison violating one of the tenets of her faith that she should not be unequally yoked with non believers on a show that cast a guy whose rise to fame was hitting it 4x in a windmill? I just find it unreal that evangelical Christians like Madi, Hannah B, Luke P etc show up this show that IMO violates the very tenets of what they believe in, it blows my mind for real season after season....all jmo.

First I would say they should ask God for a husband or wife but being on the show doesn't violate your faith, it's how you conduct yourself and Madison conducted herself well on the other hand Hannah B and Luke didn't..but God still loves them.

I will have to agree to disagree with you. I can back up how this show is not aligned to their faith by using the very same scriptures that is the tenet of their faith but this is is not a religious or spiritual forum....jmo.

mercieme wrote:

pbmax wrote:

mercieme wrote:

leavers wrote:

pbmax wrote:

ReneeM wrote:

gabriele wrote:Really? Barb is completely OTT but she explained exactly why she had such a negative impression of Madi. She said Madi didn’t want to come in and meet Peter’s family, made them wait 3 hours and didn’t apologize for that, said she didn’t love Peter and wouldn’t accept a proposal. How would any parent feel hearing that?! Barb confronted Madi and Madi couldn’t even offer the slightest olive branch. A complete and total lack of humility and respect for her elders. Barb was awful too. Sorry but Madi’s conduct was as unchristian as it gets. jmo

Speak on it! I absolutely loved it because it was funny as hell to me, but Barb shouldn’t have acted like she did for her son’s sake. & Madi shouldn’t have reacted like she did, if she truly loves Peter & wants to be with him. At the end of the day, that’s Peter’s mom & Barb isn’t going anywhere. Madi was very unchristian like to me tonight. She was smug and classless, refused to see where she could’ve handled things better, and is extremely self righteous. All jmo.

I guess Jesus shouldn't have turned over those tables.  
It's not About being self righteous but God's righteousness. I think that's Barb biggest problem with Madison is that she's a Christian while Peter and herself are not. She prefer him to stay going out and clubbing and to say she prayed, obviously she doesn't know how God works. I was listening to what his father said when Peter came to tell them his decision, he said I hope he chose what we been hoping for and is happy with the decision. So he should be happy with what they want. I was expecting her to accept Peter decision but was totally shocked to see her behavior and I was still expecting her to say something nice but didn't. I've seen some despicable things on this show but this takes the cake and I don't think her attitude is going to get better. She better watch herself "no weapon form against me, shall prosper".

The Weber family are Christian. Catholic, I believe. Peter went to a Christian school.

@leavers Some evangelical Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians based on my understanding. But let’s say the Webers are not Christian as implied, then isn’t Madison violating one of the tenets of her faith that she should not be unequally yoked with non believers on a show that cast a guy whose rise to fame was hitting it 4x in a windmill? I just find it unreal that evangelical Christians like Madi, Hannah B, Luke P etc show up this show that IMO violates the very tenets of what they believe in, it blows my mind for real season after season....all jmo.

First I would say they should ask God for a husband or wife but being on the show doesn't violate your faith, it's how you conduct yourself and Madison conducted herself well on the other hand Hannah B and Luke didn't..but God still loves them.

I will have to agree to disagree with you. I can back up how this show is not aligned to their faith by using the very same scriptures that is the tenet of their faith but this is is not a religious or spiritual forum....jmo.

I agree to disagree, I'm not interested in making it a religious forum so I will just say this and let it go because there are scriptures that would back up what said. Nonbelievers are people that don't even believe in God. Last thing Jesus himself hung out with sinners. I'm saying it with love.

Sprite wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Sharleen's Flare recap: https://www.flare.com/bachelor/bachelor-episode-12-recap-peter-season-24-finale-2020/

Even what Sharleen is saying here does not make any sense.  It was the second time she is meeting the Webers.  Geeze she's in the revewal wedding album:

If he had kept Fantasy-Suite-Ultimatum-gate to himself, especially since the rest of their relationship was so great, his mother wouldn’t have had the same motivation (or ammunition) to go into that first meeting on the offence like she did.

This is the first time ever that I disagree with Sharleen. I also thought she was sprouting the official line. I have to say that I was disappointed.

I had a similar ‘ take two’ kind of reaction...reading the entire article, it didn’t seem like she watched THE WHOLE time, because she missed some gold nuggets IMO. And as I read her almost justifying Barb’s concerns and insinuating that he should not tell his parents the truth about his very real dilemma, she brought up her parents, who would have been acting in a similar overprotective or overbearing way...I guess that this is an issue that may resonate too loudly for her to disagree completely. There is a cultural element to the way Barb is ‘ reacting’ and it’s more prevalent in hot Latin culture, IMO. That’s not to say that they are ALL like that obviously, but those Italian or Latina mammas are known to be pretty possessive especially of their sons.
It’s is clear that Barb has some additional issues of control and liking / wanting the spotlight...as was evident to me when she jumped off her seat to go give a big smiling hug to Clare and she was more animated and smiley with her than she had been all evening.! ( Instaed if making sure she hugged her own son...who ended up leaving separately
As far as Sharleen, I think she was not really into it, she had mentioned that her time is not always adequate to watch in detail in order to write her recap and was alluding to stopping possibly...a typical Virgo herself, maybe she sees some stuff from Peter’s character or traits that reminds her of herself? I’m thinking of the over analyzing and perfectionist aspects mainly.

JMOAA