Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Mar 9th & 10th Finale - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Tptb just go lower every time I think they’ve hit bottom. Stoking barbs insane flame, giving her extraordinary amounts of airtime - shoot, involving the parents at all - just all seemed to be with a goal of running the bus over Madi and Peter, and trying to destroy their relationship. Of course we know it’s all about the drama, but they really went overboard on this. CH was gleeful throughout.

LaineyG wrote:@Jolena  his friend Courtney Slovinsky.  She is on Instagram.  I think I spelled that right.  She told Madi on her story thanks for being a light.  And that she loved her.

I’ve just looked her up now. When do we think the photo of them was taken ? It wasn’t the vow renewal so looks like they have hung out post filming

His mom telling his dad "help me" in Spanish. oh god just stop! Good for Madison and Peter for standing up for each other. I hope they move far away from his awful parents. Now I am rooting for them just to piss off his mom!

BlueTone wrote:Tptb just go lower every time I think they’ve hit bottom. Stoking barbs insane flame, giving her extraordinary amounts of airtime - shoot, involving the parents at all - just all seemed to be with a goal of running the bus over Madi and Peter, and trying to destroy their relationship. Of course we know it’s all about the drama, but they really went overboard on this. CH was gleeful throughout.

It was exploitative and cruel.

The irony of all this is that Peter very well may lean into his faith more than ever to deal with the possible (likely?) implosion of his relationship with his family. I really hope that his friends, Madi, & hopefully even Madi's family support him.

If Barbara was sooooo convinced that Madi was bad news, freaking wait a few months for the breakup, but no, it was more important to punish your son & his SO because he dumped your choice for him.

Exactly @Emeralds, this might ironically make Peter lean into his faith more than ever before. It'll be tough to distance himself from his family and I think the question is whether Peter is willing to put up those boundaries. IMO Barb could've just let the relationship run its course. Let Peter and Madi figure out in the real world if they could work. Instead she chose to humiliate and hurt her son, hurt the woman he loves, and fracture their familial relationship. All for petty point scoring. I can't believe that Madi and Peter having a long and intense talk that made them late, which production scheduled, is being used to bash Madi's character (when Peter never even showed up for Victoria F's family!) That when they arrived Peter apologized and told them they needed to talk, is now being used as justification because they think Madi should've said sorry too. They could have this conversation off camera and when they hadn't just attacked their relationship. It wasn't the time or place to re-hash things from months ago when you've just seen your son say he's in love. All JMO.

The show hates Madi, because she wanted to do it by her terms and not theirs.  The show ONLY wanted a freaking engagement and Peter is such a wimp, he gave it them what they wanted.

Peter was very hurt by Madi, but he had to be realistic that he went WAY too freaking fast from a  1 on 1 date to falling in love with her in between 5 min meetings until their date before HTD.  Heck, the show probably did it so that Peter wouldn't give up the show to force her to stay. IMO

However, it is obvious to me that Madi and Peter got together before the show aired.  There was a reason Madi was so flirty and glowing at the premiere episode.  However, I do think they broke up and got back together with the all the crap Peter is typically known to do.

IMO

What WAS that?!! All I know is that was an unmitigated disaster all the way around. I almost feel like the show paid them all off to stage that last part but sadly it was real. Peter looked like a hostage in the entire Madi segment. He did not look like he even wanted to get back with her. Madi was appalling and Barb went way over the line. Peter needs to flee to a monastery. jmo

Well this crappy season sure ended on a crappy note - thanks to Barb.

I thought Hannah was on fire tonight and even when she and Peter broke up. I was rooting for her and hope she gets what she wants in life. I know she learned a ton from her time on this show and hope whatever she does in Bachelor Nation she does it with her eyes WIDE OPEN.

Madi is lovely and so right that she has to choose Peter as much as he chooses her. She showed grace under fire. Who knows what the future will hold for both of them but you want it all to work out well for her.

There is that scripture that says there is a time for everything under the sun, etc. Well, Barb missed that lesson as this was the time to be gracious and spend her energy protesting Madi in PRIVATE.

Does anyone know what Barb said to her husband the 2 times the camera panned to her?

gabriele wrote:What WAS that?!! All I know is that was an unmitigated disaster all the way around. I almost feel like the show paid them all off to stage that last part but sadly it was real. Peter looked like a hostage in the entire Madi segment. He did not look like he even wanted to get back with her. Madi was appalling and Barb went way over the line. Peter needs to flee to a monastery. jmo

I really don't understand this. How was Madi appalling? I thought she was extremely diplomatic under the circumstances.

Sprite wrote:

gabriele wrote:What WAS that?!! All I know is that was an unmitigated disaster all the way around. I almost feel like the show paid them all off to stage that last part but sadly it was real. Peter looked like a hostage in the entire Madi segment. He did not look like he even wanted to get back with her. Madi was appalling and Barb went way over the line. Peter needs to flee to a monastery. jmo

I really don't understand this. How was Madi appalling? I thought she was extremely diplomatic under the circumstances.

At least she wasn't dumb enough to accept his proposal. IMO.

I’m stunned and shocked at tonight’s episode ... Peter’s mother was so hateful and rude, I’ve never seen anything like that before! How humiliating for Peter.  Her treatment of Madi was inexcusable in my opinion.  I have no doubt Barbara will have plenty of responses on her social media after tonight.

I thought Hannah Ann showed more of her real self tonight ... she was understandably upset with Peter after the broken engagement, and she let him have a piece of her mind!

I’m glad that Madi stood up for herself again to Peter’s parents, specifically his mother.  Peter’s father looked almost scared of his mother when it was his turn to answer Chris’ question

I wish Peter had shown more backbone during the season ... I have a feeling he was easily manipulated by TPTB. He paid a heavy price for it in the end. I have no idea where he and Madi will end up, but I wish them both peace and happiness, whether together or not. Perhaps Madi can teach him a little about backbones

Sprite wrote:

gabriele wrote:What WAS that?!! All I know is that was an unmitigated disaster all the way around. I almost feel like the show paid them all off to stage that last part but sadly it was real. Peter looked like a hostage in the entire Madi segment. He did not look like he even wanted to get back with her. Madi was appalling and Barb went way over the line. Peter needs to flee to a monastery. jmo

I really don't understand this. How was Madi appalling? I thought she was extremely diplomatic under the circumstances.

Really? Barb is completely OTT but she explained exactly why she had such a negative impression of Madi. She said Madi didn’t want to come in and meet Peter’s family, made them wait 3 hours and didn’t apologize for that, said she didn’t love Peter and wouldn’t accept a proposal. How would any parent feel hearing that?! Barb confronted Madi and Madi couldn’t even offer the slightest olive branch. A complete and total lack of humility and respect for her elders. Barb was awful too. Sorry but Madi’s conduct was as unchristian as it gets. jmo