Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #11

dee wrote:I like them both and it's sad to see it's come down to this. Hopefully they can salvage a friendship out of this as I think they could be great friends. Maybe in a few months time they can reconnect on platonic terms.

I can empathize with Hannah that she may have felt embarrassed to have seen him out on dates. But unless she doesn't understand the concept of casual dating, he is really doing nothing wrong here. She mentions about thinking she's more than two nights? I don't get this??! Is there a time frame of when his next date should be? When you casually date, you're not really obligated to tell the person when you're going on your next date with someone else or who this other person even is. I do think Tyler did give her a heads up about his already scheduled date with GG (hence the model IG videos she made).

Sure the optics look bad because we see him coming out of her apartment (which was rumoured her camp called the paps on) and then we see him on another date with another girl. But in the real world, no one would care or fault this. Unless he told Hannah they were exclusive, then he's just navigating his feelings day by day and seeing where each of his relationships go.

I read on Reddit about Tyler leading her on because they were kissing (which was never photographed)... um... I don't know what to tell people but that's what casual dating is. In most cases, it's more than kissing, with multiple people at different times. And just because feelings are expressed and involved, doesn't mean he's lead her on to think they were exclusive. That's what casual dating is all about. All parties can remove themselves at any moment in time should they not want to be involved anymore.

I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion because of the media. This is just typical casual dating logistics. Hannah is welcome to feel and express her thoughts about the situation as she pleases, but Tyler is also able to live his life.

Summerfun1980 wrote:@HEA I’m a Tyler fan but did you listen to the podcast? No way they spent the night talking about strategy and clarification and being friends. I think it was just the opposite. I think he left with things very murky and open.

Either it was a lot of kissing and rubbing like their FSD as Hannah said ooooorrrr he broke her headboard and she doesn’t want to admit that because that would be more public embarrassment or even to protect Tyler. There’s no need to spend the night with a woman to friend zone her and discuss strategy. Tyler is inexperienced with relationships but not women and dating. He knows how to cut one off and has no problem doing so when he wants. JMO

Mia_Leoni wrote:It comes back to this "casual" dating culture. We saw it on Hannah's season, and we're seeing it unfold on Paradise.

It involves "hanging out" and "hooking up", maybe even regularly and with real feelings developing.

It only works so long as both parties are exactly on the same page. What often seems to happen is that the woman in the relationship (generally) starts believing that if the guy is treating her so well, it's getting more serious. Then, these guys are genuinely shocked because they believe that they were just hooking up, without commitment. They just can't grasp how they disrespected their partner.

It's so problematic to leave it as "let's hang out and see what happens" like Hannah and Tyler did.  Of course Tyler can now go off and date whoever he wants, and as many people as he wants. He was given free reign by Hannah to do so.

Question is, are Tyler and Gigi on the same page? Either they agree, or it will publicly blow up in someone's face. Time will tell. IMO