Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #11

I like them both and it's sad to see it's come down to this. Hopefully they can salvage a friendship out of this as I think they could be great friends. Maybe in a few months time they can reconnect on platonic terms.

I can empathize with Hannah that she may have felt embarrassed to have seen him out on dates. But unless she doesn't understand the concept of casual dating, he is really doing nothing wrong here. She mentions about thinking she's more than two nights? I don't get this??! Is there a time frame of when his next date should be? When you casually date, you're not really obligated to tell the person when you're going on your next date with someone else or who this other person even is. I do think Tyler did give her a heads up about his already scheduled date with GG (hence the model IG videos she made).

Sure the optics look bad because we see him coming out of her apartment (which was rumoured her camp called the paps on) and then we see him on another date with another girl. But in the real world, no one would care or fault this. Unless he told Hannah they were exclusive, then he's just navigating his feelings day by day and seeing where each of his relationships go.

I read on Reddit about Tyler leading her on because they were kissing (which was never photographed)... um... I don't know what to tell people but that's what casual dating is. In most cases, it's more than kissing, with multiple people at different times. And just because feelings are expressed and involved, doesn't mean he's lead her on to think they were exclusive. That's what casual dating is all about. All parties can remove themselves at any moment in time should they not want to be involved anymore.

I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion because of the media. This is just typical casual dating logistics. Hannah is welcome to feel and express her thoughts about the situation as she pleases, but Tyler is also able to live his life.

@dee IA if they weren’t public figures this wouldn’t be an issue. This is casual dating. I admit it might be weird for Hannah because she had Tyler all to herself two months ago buuut she didn’t pick up and put him back out there in the world for other women to choose him.

I am also going to say, that imho Hannah is nowhere near ready to be in an exclusive relationship. Imho the drinks with Tyler was suggested by TPBP so they could have both Hannah and Tyler on DWTS. Hannah jumped at the idea, because it would give her a happy ending, sort of. But imho in reality, her dating now would be a total train wreck. Jmho

well... at this point, I am glad that my sleuthing radar (as well as few other members here) was correct this season. Jed was F1 and Tyler was never ready to date Hannah in any shape or form after FRC.

@Cocoasneeze IA girl needs to take it one day at a time and explore her options. I’m so confused as to why after dating 30 men and having her engagement blow up in her face she is seemingly trying to seriously date any man. She is not ready. JMO

I can't help but wonder why Tyler would seek work in LA at the time he did if he wasn't interested in spending time there for some reason, Hannah, DWTS, etc. Now, I find myself wondering if he will even go through with them or if the post is even correct. The timing is just suspect....to me.  Guess we'll find out on the 12th.

^^ He probably does want to still see Hannah when he left LA. But he can still want to see other people at the same time, hence casual dating. Plus work is work. If an opportunity comes up, he should take it.

@dee I also suspect he wanted to continue to see Hannah. But sounds like she is no longer open to casual dating so he might cancel now. I think I read that he can if he gets a better offer in NY for those days? We will see soon enough.

I’m not sure why people are acting like he went out and married another woman. Even Gigi’s pr articles make clear they are nothing serious.


Still, labels should be put on the pairing, as the source explains, “it’s too soon to say Tyler and Gigi are ‘dating.’ “

https://people.com/tv/tyler-cameron-gigi-hadid-dates-real-purposefully-coy-source/

While this new romance could prove to be short-lived, a source tells E! News that there is potential for something more between Gigi and Tyler. "He really likes Gigi, but it's just a fling for now. They are both gorgeous and single and they've had fun spending time together. He's living in the moment and not thinking too much past that," a source says.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1062803/tyler-cameron-makes-an-early-morning-exit-from-gigi-hadid-s-place-after-bowling-date

Summerfun1980 wrote:Well I never believed Tyler closed the door or friend zoned her. I too believe he also has feelings for her. But he has self esteem and pride too. He wasn’t going to just run right back. It seems like he wanted to continue to see her nonexclusively. But for some reason, Hannah and Chris and the rest thought or expected him to clear his date book. That’s just not realistic. There’s a lot of baggage from the show that would take a lot of time for Tyler to get over before he could even think of dating Hannah again. One day at a time to see how it goes is the only realistic option for them. JMO

IMO the show (CH et al) and the network (ABC / Rob Mills et al) AND DWTS all thought they would get a reconciliation of some sort and be able to wrap months of viewers hoping (and expecting) to see a love story for the ages blossom. IMO they probably thought that Tyler would go along with this grand plan. He didn't.
JMHO

Tyler's IG story last night made me feel a little better....
Video of Matt with and insomnia cookies delivery bag and hat on...
That's what you get for talking all that sh*t on IG...demoted to delivery boy.

Doggoneit wrote:Tyler's IG story last night made me feel a little better....
Video of Matt with and insomnia cookies delivery bag and hat on...
That's what you get for talking all that sh*t on IG...demoted to delivery boy.

Me too! Now we know Tyler wasn't happy about that.

It comes back to this "casual" dating culture. We saw it on Hannah's season, and we're seeing it unfold on Paradise.

It involves "hanging out" and "hooking up", maybe even regularly and with real feelings developing.

It only works so long as both parties are exactly on the same page. What often seems to happen is that the woman in the relationship (generally) starts believing that if the guy is treating her so well, it's getting more serious. Then, these guys are genuinely shocked because they believe that they were just hooking up, without commitment. They just can't grasp how they disrespected their partner.

It's so problematic to leave it as "let's hang out and see what happens" like Hannah and Tyler did.  Of course Tyler can now go off and date whoever he wants, and as many people as he wants. He was given free reign by Hannah to do so.

Question is, are Tyler and Gigi on the same page? Either they agree, or it will publicly blow up in someone's face. Time will tell. IMO