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Post by dee Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:02 am

@avacaroline I don't think his followers had dropped. He's count is still increasing. I actually don't see too many negative comments on his IG page either. All the comments on press IGs like Us Weekly, ENews etc were pretty pro-Tyler in this situation. I think it's more a subsection of fans, particularly Reddit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of this have really affected anyone's popularity.
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Post by Cocoasneeze Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:03 am

avacaroline wrote:
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Pichic121 wrote:@Lucas15  Excellent point. I think it basically comes down to the optics of it all. From an outside view, the overnights are not a good look. IMO But who knows..,maybe that’s the point of all this messiness laugh out loud

I don't understand this line of thinking...how are the optics not a good look? Tyler was asked out for a drink, went out for a drink with Hannah, was seen leaving her house in the AM. Returned to NYC went out for drinks with another woman and was seen leaving her house in the AM. Both Hannah and Tyler said they were single.

Hannah was just on a speed dating show and was getting physical with multiple men on the same day. Not judging her for that (she's up there with my favorite Jillian) and I do understand that the guys signed up for that but I don't see how this is a bad look for Tyler (months after they broke-up) when it wasn't a bad look for Hannah on the show? They both said they were single!

IMO it has to sting a bit - for Hannah - that Tyler's immediate rebound chick is a supermodel (but also kind of funny!) but Hannah turned his proposal down and picked another guy just a few months ago. If Tyler's rebound was an elementary school teacher that he met on one of his ABC Food Tours -- this would not be an issue. It is the supermodel's high-profile status and PR team that is keeping this in the news.

Yeah, Hannah is being asked about it b/c she was the lead and it is in the news but that will eventually cease - because Hannah will eventually say "they (H&T) are best suited as friends and they are cheering each other on" or Tyler is in a "real" relationship with Gigi and Hannah will simply "wish him the best as he deserves the best."

All IMO.



I think that we can debate all day over whether he had a right to do what he did but at this point, IMO the public has already given their verdict.  Right or wrong, Tyler has fallen off his pedestal and correct me if I’m wrong, but I think his follows have dropped. If not dropped, then it’s at least safe to say that people’s opinions of him has has changed.  The Tyler that accepted a date from Hannah, spent the night, and 2 days later was out with a supermodel, is not the Tyler C that BN fell in love with.  I’m not saying that I agree, in just stating facts. The comments on social media are overwhelming negative so it’s hard to not conclude that this was a bad business move on his part.

IMO

I hope Tyler is smart enough to ignore all of this. I hope he doesn't start living his life based on these optics, and based on social media demands and standards. I personally am also happy that he's fallen of this horrible pedestal he was put on, and can now be a normal human being. Jmho.
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Post by smg2587 Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:13 am

dee wrote:@avacaroline I don't think his followers had dropped. He's count is still increasing. I actually don't see too many negative comments on his IG page either. All the comments on press IGs like Us Weekly, ENews etc were pretty pro-Tyler in this situation. I think it's more a subsection of fans, particularly Reddit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of this have really affected anyone's popularity.
I am seeing the same thing you are. At places like reddit and extreme bachelornation fans are the ones anti Tyler. Most of the general public don't seem to have an issue with him. Tyler isn't really losing follows. You can see since finale night Jed has been losing follows, close to 20k since the finale and still dropping. Tyler hasn't had that significant of a drop.


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Post by avacaroline Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:13 am

dee wrote:@avacaroline I don't think his followers had dropped. He's count is still increasing. I actually don't see too many negative comments on his IG page either. All the comments on press IGs like Us Weekly, ENews etc were pretty pro-Tyler in this situation. I think it's more a subsection of fans, particularly Reddit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of this have really affected anyone's popularity.

I just looked and you’re right, his counts haven’t dropped but his follow gains and evolution have. And the Instagram comments on both he and the supermodels pages are not great.
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Post by alwayscooking Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:25 am

smg2587 wrote:
dee wrote:@avacaroline I don't think his followers had dropped. He's count is still increasing. I actually don't see too many negative comments on his IG page either. All the comments on press IGs like Us Weekly, ENews etc were pretty pro-Tyler in this situation. I think it's more a subsection of fans, particularly Reddit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of this have really affected anyone's popularity.
I am seeing the same thing you are. At places like reddit and extreme bachelornation fans are the ones anti Tyler. Most of the general public don't seem to have an issue with him. Tyler isn't really losing follows. You can see since finale night Jed has been losing follows, close to 20k since the finale and still dropping. Tyler hasn't had that significant of a drop.

Tyler has still been gaining followers, he needs a bit more than 25K more to hit 2.1M
https://www.instastatistics.com/#!/tylerjcameron3
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Post by dee Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:30 am

avacaroline wrote:
dee wrote:@avacaroline I don't think his followers had dropped. He's count is still increasing. I actually don't see too many negative comments on his IG page either. All the comments on press IGs like Us Weekly, ENews etc were pretty pro-Tyler in this situation. I think it's more a subsection of fans, particularly Reddit. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any of this have really affected anyone's popularity.

I just looked and you’re right, his counts haven’t dropped but his follow gains and evolution have. And the Instagram comments on both he and the supermodels pages are not great.
I anticipate the amount of gains to drop just because it's more than a week since the finale. I haven't looked, but I would be shocked if Hannah is gaining more than she did finale night. Everyone's gains normally just taper off. I'm sure she'll gain more if she's announced to be on DWTS.

I still don't think the comments are too bad on his page. His latest post was mostly positive. Most of the hate comments are the latter part of his "Dear HB" post. As for the model's page, she's getting heat but I'm sure this is nothing new to her (can't be worse than 1D fans). It's not right, but comes with being so high profile.
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Post by Summerfun1980 Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:45 am

One of the three thrives in chaos.

Hannah will be announced for DWTS, hopefully, soon and the conversation will move around her.

I don’t know what the heck the Florida boy is going to do. He’s clearly just flying by the seat of his pants. I don’t know if its clicked for him. Lol the thing about Tyler is I really think he could say f*ck it and go rogue at any minute. It why he really wouldn’t make a good bachelor and doesn’t want to be one. He’s not a natural puppet. JMO

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Post by dee Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:00 pm

@Summerfun1980 The fact that Tyler can go rogue and not be controlled by tptb is why I think he'd make a great bachelor laugh out loud laugh out loud Finally someone that doesn't read off a script and does every little thing the show manipulates these people to do. He's clearly their most popular contestant of all time. No one has created so much buzz for this show. TPTB won't chose him though as they want some cookie cutter version of all their bachelors. I'm not surprised if Tyler wants to run away from this franchise.

I do think he's in over his head with all this media attention and never anticipated he would be this popular on the show. I think his best move is to go back home for a few weeks after California to reset. Hannah should do the same, imo.

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Post by Summerfun1980 Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:09 pm

@dee Tyler is still biking shirtless in NY like nothing has changed. He’s going to keep trying to take it a day at a time and just live his life. Not sure how that will work out for him. And I think it’s possible for him to go rogue if he’s ever hindered from doing what he wants.

Funny how the paps haven’t been called on him since Monday.

His choice to stay silent is interesting and not even release an approved statement. I’m sure certain persons would love him to release a statement (and would approve) saying he’s moved on with his life and he and x are better as friends and he is happy to see where things go with x. But it hasn’t happened yet. We’ll see if it comes. At some point, he will be asked (ahem required) to speak. JMO

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Post by Guest Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:12 pm

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In the meantime, projections are pointing to Tyler eventually passing their Queen H. on IG unless she gains more followers by being on DWTS (which I think she will).


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Post by okkaayy Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:15 pm

Cosmo picked up that us weekly article.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/a28645358/tyler-cameron-hannah-brown-make-it-work/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCOS&fbclid=IwAR3y79SFdoQ1yJTgD_9tCoIjsUxlsve2qbANrsWQWMJ1GfrDbpQK1fgZ5WM

This narrative shift is so confusing to me. That source seems to be a Tyler source though, while the others were not. Serious whiplash. I’m learning a lot about the media through this process haha.

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Post by dee Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:16 pm

@Summerfun1980 What do you think he'd do in this situation if he went rogue? I thought he went pretty rogue already by following through with his preplanned date with the model. I'm sure tptb hated that they couldn't fit him in the tannah narrative they so wanted after this season went dumpster fire.

I'm also interested to see when he releases a statement. Can ABC prevent him?
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