Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

@Doggoneit Tyler didn't make Hannah walk him out or invite him over in the first place.

I also don't believe they closed the book. But I don't think Tyler led her on either. I think he didn't close it because he didn't want to. JMO He doesn't have a problem letting down women.

@HavaDrPepper Isn't she already in it?

@veg_out Wonderful post

Doggoneit wrote:@LaineyG

I agree.  I saw an interesting take on https://www.instagram.com/stories/bachelornation.scoop/?hl=en . Scroll to end of story.
from Nicole Alvar.
She expressed that she saw him in a different light because he knew she (Hannah) had just been put through what had to have been the most stressful and tense months of her life. She went on to say that being photographed with Hannah was not his best look and that he should have gone downstairs alone.  This is what opened this pandora's box so to speak.

I don't get Nicole's view on this. Did Tyler make Hannah escort him downstairs? Plus, someone on this board saw them walking about town in the same clothes, so I don't think Hannah was worried about getting caught with Tyler in her sleep wear. If rumours are to be believed, it was Hannah's camp that purposely leaked info about Tyler staying over and hence the pap shots. If the following is true then she would have known what Tyler coming out of her building with her bag would look like. Hannah had to backtrack and clarify they never slept together and just talked all night when Tyler got backlash and was asked about him during interviews. I believe Tyler was honest with Hannah and she knew about GiGi (hence the IG story tease about models) hours before the date even occurred that night. If she felt betrayed by Tyler, she would have been a lot more shady in her SM and interviews. I'm sure she's sick of getting question about Tyler and GiGi, but I don't believe Tyler did anything wrong and Hannah knows this too, imo.

@Summerfun1980

Yep, in a way. She hasn't gotten into the post show cesspool of BN dating though. Give her some time and some of the guys not on her season will be making their moves. Of course, some could have already started!

IMO

dee wrote:

Doggoneit wrote:@LaineyG

I agree.  I saw an interesting take on https://www.instagram.com/stories/bachelornation.scoop/?hl=en . Scroll to end of story.
from Nicole Alvar.
She expressed that she saw him in a different light because he knew she (Hannah) had just been put through what had to have been the most stressful and tense months of her life. She went on to say that being photographed with Hannah was not his best look and that he should have gone downstairs alone.  This is what opened this pandora's box so to speak.

I don't get Nicole's view on this. Did Tyler make Hannah escort him downstairs? Plus, someone on this board saw them walking about town in the same clothes, so I don't think Hannah was worried about getting caught with Tyler in her sleep wear. If rumours are to be believed, it was Hannah's camp that purposely leaked info about Tyler staying over and hence the pap shots. If the following is true then she would have known what Tyler coming out of her building with her bag would look like. Hannah had to backtrack and clarify they never slept together and just talked all night when Tyler got backlash and was asked about him during interviews. I believe Tyler was honest with Hannah and she knew about GiGi (hence the IG story tease about models) hours before the date even occurred that night. If she felt betrayed by Tyler, she would have been a lot more shady in her SM and interviews. I'm sure she's sick of getting question about Tyler and GiGi, but I don't believe Tyler did anything wrong and Hannah knows this too, imo.  

IA all I see is saltiness that he didn't run right back to her.  Not anger or anything indicating betrayal.  She knew what was up. IMO

@Summerfun1980 I agree with you about T not making her walk out. I just don't like that she is having to burden the "heat" of tabloid fodder. He did not do it to her, she is just in the crossfire.

I hope they have not closed the book.

I have a a screen shot of someone's IG story of that night at Soho House. Tyler and Matt are sitting in lounge chairs- Tyler sitting, and Matt laying down-by the pool. (Can't identify link now because I just grabbed it to send to my sister - sorry)
Why would someone (even if insecure) go meet a woman for drinks with his buddy?

Her Mom was the last follow to His mom's IG. Before her mom followed, the news had already broken about TC in nyc - because TC's mom had also followed The Morning Toast IG earlier that morning. (It had the story of TC in NYC)

I don't know. It's all so weird. Just call me Dean from now on...Que Kristina Schulman,
"Watch it Dean are you Flipping Flopping?"
Or, maybe its just delusion!

Can you make a Tyler thread. I don’t think Hannah needs to associated with when Tyler leaves his new girlfriend’s apartment. Just not a good look for him since he was just being so supportive of Hannah. Just give it a few weeks in private Tyler then move on. Hannah does not need to be associated with this or this reported on a thread with her name on it. Just my feelings on this.

@Begonia

He has a thread already.

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5310-tyler-cameron-bachelorette-15-discussion

I didn't think this was a fan thread.

But at Gigi being Tyler's gf. The man is single. IMO Though, I admit he shouldn't be caught leaving two different apartments in the a.m. within a week but both ladies invited him over so...Idk he was dumped during his proposal two months ago so I'm cutting him slack.

Summerfun1980 wrote:@veg_out Hannah said yesterday she talks to Tyler a lot. Tyler is also scheduled to return to LA twice in August. There was really no need for him to even try to book jobs in LA if he was set on NY. NY has plenty gigs and he already had a date with Gigi lined up. I think Tyler is truly trying to figure things out. JMO

I agree. I did not have everything figured out at 26 and Lord knows I did not always make all the best decisions...I just didn't have so many eyes on my every move (thank God). I think Tyler has been flying by the seat of his pants since football didn't work out 1.5 years ago (which is such a short amount of time). That was his dream and plan since he was 5 and now he's navigating unexpected, unchartered waters. So is Hannah for that matter. Hannah is hurt and humiliated (I mean she went on the Bachelorette and is the only one in 15 seasons who ended the season fully alone) so she's going all "woman hear me roar" and Tyler is just trying to live his best life. Doesn't make either of them anything other than human. They were never Allie and Noah from the Notebook but real life people...in their 20s...just trying to figure ish out.

...and Tyler is swimming in deep waters right now. Ain't no way anyone, celeb or otherwise, is casually and randomly being caught 2 nights in a row by paparazzi in NYC. The city is huge- if you are professionally photographed by paparazzi it's because you tipped them off, went to a place where you knew they would be, and/or because you want to be. He's swimming with sharks...just hoping he doesn't get eaten alive. [because I like him. I think both he and Hannah seem like nice, good people].

Begonia* wrote:Can you make a Tyler thread. I don’t think Hannah needs to associated with when Tyler leaves his new girlfriend’s apartment. Just not a good look for him since he was just being so supportive of Hannah. Just give it a few weeks in private Tyler then move on. Hannah does not need to be associated with this or this reported on a thread with her name on it. Just my feelings on this.

Great post! There is a Tyler thread and I was wondering this morning why some of the Tyler stories, or Tyler and whomever in the future, couldn't be posted there - I'm glad you asked as that seems more appropriate to me. I was feeling badly too that Hannah's name was in the title of the thread when the stories had nothing to do with her.

pikake wrote:

Chgohighlife wrote:

Billysmom wrote:How can we pretend to know better what Tyler wants or is good for Tyler than his mom?

I get that Tyler might not tell mom everything, it's part of becoming an adult, but she's seen him recently. I would not discount her opinions so dismissively. Jmo

His mother is disappointing, IMO. I’m still trying to figure out what mom would want Hannah for her son after watching her season. I have clients, sorority sisters, church friends, relatives, organizations...I know hundreds of women. I don’t know a single one who’d be cheerleading for their son to put his head on the chopping block a second time for the ego and cover story and benefit of Hot Mess Hannah. It makes no sense to me. Even if he indicated it’s what he wants (clearly not), she should be reluctantly supportive not leading the charge, IMO. Sit down and be quiet mom. Stay out of adult children’s business because you’re making everything worse. All IMO.

Not everyone considers her “HotMessHannah” ... that’s all

@pikake
That’s why I said IMO