Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

grace8136 wrote:

notarose wrote:

mbl wrote:

Alanna wrote:I’m interested in everyone’s temperature since the finale is tomorrow (!!!!) and so much feels unspoiled.

1. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status was immediately after leaving Greece?
2. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status is today?
3. What do you think Hannah’s relationship status will be Tuesday post afr?  

1.  I just listened to this Thursday's Bachelor Party podcast, with Lauren Zima interviewing CH.  It was interesting how definitive CH was in contrasting the difference between between Peter's and Jed's situations.  CH says he knows more about Peter because he did some digging into Calee's allegations about how Peter was cast on the show, so he's less worried and less intrigued because he knows some truths that either he or Peter will explain.  He goes on to say that with Jed, "I just don't know the situation at all".  He says other things that raise the possibility that Jed may never have discussed Haley with Hannah.

I understand that this could be standard CH BS, but if it's true that he knows about Peter but doesn't know about Jed, then I could see the following ending:  Hannah said goodbye to Tyler sometime before the FRC.  She prepares for the FRC with Jed all the while questioning her decision to send Tyler home.  She then travels to the FRC but can't go through with it with Jed and that's why she gets out of the car.  She returns to Tyler and they decide to take things slow/date, to do things the way they need to (like on their overnight date).

2.  Dating Tyler.

3.  Dating/engaged to Tyler.

IMO what CH knows about Peter’s situation is how and when he was scouted and when he was cast. Also, he may know more as apparently CH and Peter’s family live in the same general vicinity of LA.
With Jed, his gf knew about Jed going on the show so CH wouldn’t know much else beyond what’s been made public by her unless some Nashville BN alumni know things and have talked with CH.

So now CH, Nick and JoJo have all spoken up for Peter. Maybe that points to Tyler being with Hannah because they may need Peter to be the bachelor?

Doggoneit wrote:@grace8136 That is a good point.  Heard Ashley I on her podcast say that she just did not see it as Mike as Bachelor.  I don't think he made a good first impression with her.  
I would like Peter.
Not saying I agree with her, but just reporting.

Mommyof2 wrote:1.  Engaged to Jed.  Happy for a while until #haleygate hit and RS got involved and the SM pressure became too much so she had to take action or be the laughingstock of the internet.  

2.  Single

3.  All three parties go their separate ways.

grace8136 wrote:

Doggoneit wrote:@grace8136 That is a good point.  Heard Ashley I on her podcast say that she just did not see it as Mike as Bachelor.  I don't think he made a good first impression with her.  
I would like Peter.
Not saying I agree with her, but just reporting.

hmmmmm interesting. Maybe Ashley knows something. I'd like Peter too. To quote Hannah, "he's sweet and thoughtful, but when it's go time, it's go time!"

@Tiggerlgh good point in that they better shut that talk down because I'm sure many contestants break up fairly close to the filming date. JoJo reminded me that her break up was only 2 months and Nick was asking how many months is enough.

Amethyst wrote:It makes sense to me that CH would have direct access to first-hand information about how Peter was cast.
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the Ringer wrote:
the troubling back-to-back revelations about two prominent Bachelorette contestants indicate that both the series’ structure and casting process are failing to keep up with modern times.

“At the end of the day, the producer’s intentions are to set the lead up with someone great who they’re compatible with,” the producer said.

Two former Bachelor franchise producers I spoke to said that, though executive producers were responsible for choosing finalists from a pile of dossiers and interview tapes, they rarely worked closely with the casting department to investigate their backgrounds. Producers typically research contestants for their own purposes, Googling to see whether cast members have a significant other, or friends in common. Producers outsource the vetting system to the casting director.

“The network and the production companies are not spending any money on the casting, and they’re going on the cheap in doing the vetting process,”

“I couldn’t tell you exactly at what point the background checks come in,” Carr said. “Ultimately, it could be days before shooting."

According to Bachelor Nation, every contestant must sign a lengthy agreement that limits both the network’s and production company’s liability. Douglas Johnson, an entertainment lawyer at a Los Angeles–based firm, says that these agreements create less of an incentive to be strict about the vetting process, or what’s happening on set, because they are so overreaching.

“I think that they feel very insulated by these massive releases that, over and over, in the contracts, saying we’re not liable for what happens to you, even intentional neglect, even death in the last one I just saw,” he said.

Jolena wrote:The IG bacheloretteABCspoilers is saying she was engaged to Jed, found out about GF , broke up with him and is now single and her Final 3 guys will all get closure on ATFR . So this is pretty much what RS has said .if this is how it all goes down then the only thing that no one knows yet is if she’ leaves the ATFR still single or with Tyler . RS says no chance of her and Tyler getting back together but that still remains to be seen . unless someone from production told him  and they already know this  is the way it ends. ( and I’m sure they do know before anyone walks out on that stag )  Jmo

Lucas15 wrote:The one sentence in bold is really interesting to me. So, vetting is outsourced to a subcontractor but the producers typically do their own research for their own purposes and one thing in particular they might look for is evidence of a significant other (Jed I'm thinking of you specifically this past season). It's views like this that lead me to believe that production knew about Jed and Haley (they certainly could have known if they did their homework) from pretty early on.

All - JMHO

Jolena wrote:The IG bacheloretteABCspoilers is saying she was engaged to Jed, found out about GF , broke up with him and is now single and her Final 3 guys will all get closure on ATFR . So this is pretty much what RS has said .if this is how it all goes down then the only thing that no one knows yet is if she’ leaves the ATFR still single or with Tyler . RS says no chance of her and Tyler getting back together but that still remains to be seen . unless someone from production told him  and they already know this  is the way it ends. ( and I’m sure they do know before anyone walks out on that stag )  Jmo