Bachelor 23 - Colton Underwood - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Kashathediva wrote:I hope TPTB mix it up a bit this season and invite Sacha Barron Cohen to advise Colton

@Kashathediva You’re a wise one!

charriotoffire wrote:I'm starting to think the producers really like Jason and Blake and didn't have a heart to mess with them.

Blake is too fragile and has a tender loving heart  and Jason has a real profession, he's a corporate banker and he won't be able to deal with client companies if his image is tarnished by this show.

They have to choose someone who literally has nothing to lose as he is unemployed,  incredibly phony, doesn't know how  to truly connect with a woman, doesn't know anything about a woman as he waits for instructions from the host minutes before rose ceremony,    only dates women who are "it girls" according to Raven,  refers to himself  as a "decent human being"  and gives us his charity that he names after himself to prove that he is,  he cries about his virginity every chance he gets,  announces that he doesn't wear underwear  (im picturing skidmarks on white pants ewwe)   list goes on... guy is a walking reality cartoon character,  goldmine for tbtp  as viewers   want to make memes,   tweet about it and hatewatch it.  

Everytime TBTP listens  to the fans,  it ends up a total disaster  for them --  Juan Pablo,  Peter .. so yeah we are being punished.  

TPTB don’t give a sh!t who they mess with IMHO   I get that some people are upset with Colton being the Bach ... but the reason IMO ...is not because they chose the one they like the least.... they are heartless ... they want ratings ...bottom line ... period....

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TPTB don’t give a sh!t who they mess with IMHO   I get that some people are upset with Colton being the Bach ... but the reason IMO ...is not because they chose the one they like the least.... they are heartless ... they want ratings ...bottom line ... period....

IA it doesn't matter who they chose. I was hoping for Peter just to see him handle them messing with his head. It happens, every season. Whether I like the lead or not, they will do things that I'll disagree with and probably because of scripting. We know from sleuthing they pick their battles. If they get away with something, then there comes a time when they can't.  

As far as Colton being TB, I don't see anything wrong with him at all. He's young, he's good looking, he has a huge heart with all the work he does with his charity, and he was honest with Tia right from the beginning IMHO. He seems to have a wonderful family and I'm sure he'll have a great support system. Oh and he loves dogs! I think anyone should take the opportunity to become a lead. It's an experience, and maybe they'll meet the love of their life. He may not have dated much, but to me that doesn't mean anything at all. Is there a certain manual that must be followed to dating? If you're a good person, to me it doesn't matter how much or how little you've dated. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Colton without the Tia pressure. To me, he's a nice guy, if he keeps himself grounded play TPTB's games like they all do, and hopefully falls in love, to me that's a good season for the lead.

@Kashathediva

https://www.eonline.com/shows/peoples_choice_awards/news/963752/2018-people-s-choice-awards-complete-list-of-nominations

Congrats to Becca and Colton nominated for the People Choice Awards in the Competition Contestant category!

Thanks @mindless for mentioning it in Becca Tilley's thread that she was nominated for best podcast! I scrolled around and saw this category.

Competition Contestant of 2018

Becca Kufrin, The Bachelorette

Colton Underwood, Bachelor in Paradise

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I was really hoping Jason would be bringing his hotness to my screen, but since that isn't happening, could they PLEASE give us some good locations to lust after?

@Norcalgal very totally OT: if anyone watched show this summer “who is America?”  All I can say is wow. I was entertained, I was shocked at American ignorance. I was grossed out one time and that is huge. Nothing grosses me out. Nothing. I was totally gob smacked at societal stupidity. Very scary. Yet effing funny.

An angle that hasn't been mentioned....wondered if/when talking to Jason and Blake about the possibility of being TB, that they were a little more savvy about the contractual obligations, salary or financial gain and attempted to make their own voices/concerns heard.
Jason, with his background and education and banking career, would have to be very calculating about what this show could do for his career down the road. Same with Blake having a secure job with large well known company. Although the lead does get paid, it might not have been enough to cover a years salary for either Blake or Jason, which is about the equivalent of what they would have to give up from the time of the announcement until the next Bachelor is named.

Colton is young, has a charity (giving him flexibility and probably an inconsistent income). It appears that Blake and Jason own their own homes (or have mortgages) in high real estate areas. My thinking is that they might have been more realistic in what they were asking for as compensation and Colton was a better "deal".

Kashathediva wrote:@Norcalgal very totally OT: if anyone watched show this summer “who is America?”  All I can say is wow. I was entertained, I was shocked at American ignorance. I was grossed out one time and that is huge. Nothing grosses me out. Nothing. I  was totally gob smacked at societal stupidity. Very scary. Yet effing funny.

I have long since stopped being shocked at American ignorance. Internet and SM have only exacerbated it since it is difficult to explain complex subjects in short soundbites and fewer and fewer people have the patience or interest to look further.


“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

― Isaac Asimov

@teachbeach72 all very good points.

@Kashathediva Haven't seen that show. I've been playing the piano most nights as an escape from all the crap on my tv. I make one exception and that is I watch The Bach shows as a long-time and loyal viewer. But Colton may change that.

@Norcalgal the show imo is pretty outrageous. If not for DH and his tv addiction I would never had known about it. It’s crazy.