Bachelor 23 - Colton Underwood - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I'm trying to think of a nickname that I can call him during the season. The Twit? The Twat? The Dolt? Boss Baby? Pillsbury Dough Boy?

They had two quality candidates in Jason and Blake, and they chose Colton of all people? They must be angling for a younger audience. What a disappointment. Colton can't choose his own socks much less a girlfriend. Producer puppet, indeed. I bet they have his fiancée all picked out already. They will just need to give him a little shove in the right direction. *sigh*



@Amethyst I like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.

The problem with a young audience is that they really don't have a long attention span. They move on to bigger and better things quickly. They are alienating their core audience for a much more fickle group who may stick around for this season but not the long run. They could have kept that group by casting some women they can related to, instead they saddled us with Colton. Good luck with that.

It wouldn't have been as bad if they didn't cast him on BIP. I feel as if they forcing him down my throat by now casting him in three different shows...one after the other...and I hate when someone does that. I get very stubborn and refuse to play along. What is worse is that tptb were the ones who made him look like a wishy washy dunce. I just don't get why they would make him look so dumb if they wanted him as the lead. If this is the best they can make him look, then heaven only knows just how bad he really is.

@Sprite. We do have similar POV for sure...

I'm not enthused by this season but there's a shot that he'll be better than the last 2 Bachelors. I just hope that there won't be a bunch of 21/22 yr olds. I think it will be more interesting for me if I stay unspoiled next season so will do my best.

I think there's a good chance it'll be better than the last two seasons too. Robert Mills was saying that he was, by far, the favorite among the girls applying, which I can believe since he's the most conventionally good-looking and he's a former athlete and that combo drives the type of girls who apply on this show wild. It'll be nice to have a Bach who the girls are crazy about, as I think that was sorely lacking in the last two Bachelor seasons, in which most of the girls didn't even try to hide their disinterest in the leads. 

At the end of the day, I'm going to give it a chance. I find that leads can be pretty unpredictable, as many leads I was excited about ended up being duds and many I was bummed about ended up being great. 

IMO.

albean99 wrote:I'm not enthused by this season but there's a shot that he'll be better than the last 2 Bachelors. I just hope that there won't be a bunch of 21/22 yr olds. I think it will be more interesting for me if I stay unspoiled next season so will do my best.

I will join you to the unspoiled. I know very little about Colton and Becca as I did not watch her season. But I know all about tia. I watched only 3 episodes from BIP, enough to know it was a rebound imo. So now I know who is TNB, time for me to hide us mags and SM

Hope some will consider the unspoiled thread!

Becca was the worst lead in recent years so I don't know a lot about Colton as I didn't watch but, oh boy that interview is very bad, Michael Strahan can make anyone look good and Colton looks very akward.

albean99 wrote:I'm not enthused by this season but there's a shot that he'll be better than the last 2 Bachelors. I just hope that there won't be a bunch of 21/22 yr olds. I think it will be more interesting for me if I stay unspoiled next season so will do my best.

SCMIIW. well...RS has already spilled that most of the cast are so young this year...so..i can picture  21-23 yo as the majority, keeping in mind Colton is a 26 yo Boss Baby . I expect Colton would get rid the almost 30 or 30-ish yo girl in the first 4 episodes. LOL . One redditors made a post about being in the final cast, but she was cut in the final stage, bc she spesifically said she was interested in either Blake or Jason. So, there's that..

It seems they cast girls who interested in Colton, bc they knew from early on  that the gig would be his. Given that he was being recruited, i can imagine TPTB already in talk with his agent pre-Becca season, to set him up for this stint : Tia Drama pre season, meni-pedi Tia drama, Virgin drama, Tia drama at F4, Drama with Jordan (note that both Blake and Jason don't seem to have problems with Jordan and staying away from drama with him), MTA Drama with JB and others, Becca drama on BIP, Tia on/off drama on again on BIP and eventually the break up . Ugh! all definitely overkill for us as viewers but they have planned that all along for sure. Hence why they don't eff care about what fans want . This silly show become more contrived beyond believe to me. SMH. TPTB's last attempt was hilarious, they brought all favs former casts to cheering him on GMA

Also, its so funny to me that they take the potential cast's preference as consideration this year, maybe because they have plenty options : Blake, Jason, Colton, Wills, Joe., as opposed to last year's cast where the majority wanted Peter, but got Arie instead, since they literally had no other options. .

So, it is Colton. Meh. I just want to know two things. Will he give up his V card in the fantasy suite AND will he cry the entire season? Can I get an AMEN that we don't have to watch Ben 2.0?

I’m curious, anybody remember if / when a F4 became Bachelor...? I cannot recall or find a source for this kind of stats...TYIA!

Astrobach wrote:I’m curious, anybody remember if / when a F4 became Bachelor...? I cannot recall or find a source for this kind of stats...TYIA!

From the top off my head:

JPG was a F5 or F6...Jake P was too....(not even made it to F4)

Ette: Des was F4.

Thanks @Joy15 maybe not definitive but pretty close to what I thought. Which is that it’s seems very rare that they go to the F4 for the Bach. So, the scenario that Blake was probably set to be it but somehow held his own ‘ more’ than expected , and maybe Jason as well, it went down the line to Colton, just a theory of course as we see their weird logic now, but still, I cannot believe they purposely passed up on these two jewels of guys with the firm intention to have Colton. I guess we may never fully know. God knows, Colton did EVERYTHING they wanted and more to get the gig. To hear him say he wants to find his wife by the end of the Bach. is SO ludicrous, and shows even more ( as if we needed it) how immature and insecure he is. I feel bad for him, it’s almost delusional at this point.

@Astrobach

sorry for quoting myself from upthread:
Given that he (Colton) was being recruited, i can imagine TPTB already in talk with his agent pre-Becca season, to set him up for this stint : Tia Drama pre season, meni-pedi Tia drama, Virgin drama, Tia drama at F4, Drama with Jordan (note that both Blake and Jason don't seem to have problems with Jordan and staying away from drama with him), MTA Drama with JB and others, Becca drama on BIP, Tia on/off drama on again on BIP and eventually the break up

Note that both Blake and Jason stayed away from Jordan drama while Colton jumped into it blissfully trying to be a stand up guy. Meh.

Also, Colton drama at MTA with JB and others (Jordan again?ugh) whereas Jason just stayed away entirely from drama at MTA.

All goes to show me that in term of Perfect Puppet Material to TPTB, in a particular order : Colton >>>> Jason>> Blake.

THAT is their deciding factor. IMO. Blake is the hardest to get "produced" (Read: manipulated), whereas Colton is their perfect puppet.

I won't watch but wanna find out how messy his season would be. Then again, i wouldn't be surprised if he would become their new golden boy, ala Sean Lowe and Benji. Seem TPTB likes to reward the "submissive" lead, cough2 Becca, Benji..OTOH loves to punish and holding grudges toward the rebels : JPG, Kaitlyn.

all JMO