Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Episodes - Mar 6th ATFR - #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Mommyof2 wrote:

brownravens wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:I don't think he ever loved her, so if that is indeed true, he would be 100000% over her in a heartbeat.  I never saw 'it' with them the entire season, not even at the proposal.  I think Becca knew it too.  Jmho.  

Which makes him proposing more ludicrous then...

Which he owned up to post-show.  

Are we watching the same programming? I haven’t seen Arie own up to jack. He’s good at half truths and lying though.

sosleepy wrote:

umngirl wrote:Listening to some podcasts and it reminded me of one of the most troubling lines from last night.
Lauren: “are you 100% over Becca?”
Arie: “yes, 1000%.”

A$$hole. You would say that just days after breaking up with her.

Totally. He had a $hit eating grin while he said it too. I found that so troubling. 

Seriously, this guy.

And the whole time he was with Becca he was telling her that he felt so confident in proposing to her and he could never have real conversations with Lauren so he knew they weren't right for each other. He's such a master manipulator and openly lies with literally zero guilt. I've never seen anything like it. It gives me the creeps. IMO.

Diana wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

brownravens wrote:

Which makes him proposing more ludicrous then...

Which he owned up to post-show.  

JMO He hasn't "owned" up to anything at all that is the frustrating part

Yes, he did. Go watch the media rounds interviews.

Mommyof2 wrote:The good news is that Becca has moved on.  

Yep, Becca moved on immediately and started her transformation into the next Bachelorette by filming "her story" as she calls it on the flight back to Minnesota from the breakup. Quick recovery! 'Atta girl! 

If history is predictor of future behavior, viewers that support Becca will take significantly longer to resolve their feels. IMO. Gosh, I guess it's already taken longer and it's only one day following the ATFR show.

Aria wrote:

sosleepy wrote:

umngirl wrote:Listening to some podcasts and it reminded me of one of the most troubling lines from last night.
Lauren: “are you 100% over Becca?”
Arie: “yes, 1000%.”

A$$hole. You would say that just days after breaking up with her.

Totally. He had a $hit eating grin while he said it too. I found that so troubling. 

Seriously, this guy.

And the whole time he was with Becca he was telling her that he felt so confident in proposing to her and he could never have real conversations with Lauren so he knew they weren't right for each other. He's such a master manipulator and openly lies with literally zero guilt. I've never seen anything like it. It gives me the creeps. IMO.

That’s for sure. His convos ON CAMERA with both women were extremely contradictory. Usually I agree that the F1 fiancé shouldn’t watch the finale. Not in this case though. Lauren is doing herself and extreme disservice not seeing the entire picture here. Her “Arie handled this so well.” I mean...   .

I don't believe that Arie loved/loves either one of these ladies. I think Arie wants a woman at his beck and call. Someone  adoring, to go with him on his racing circuit and scratch his itch whenever the need arises. I hope Lauren is ready to fit into that role, because he is expecting it. His complaint yesterday about how it wasn't easy for him because Becca was working, was so stupid. What did he expect her to do when the season wasn't over yet? His pure unadulterated selfishness was on full display yesterday.  AMO

FLChica wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:The good news is that Becca has moved on.  

Yep, Becca moved on immediately and started her transformation into the next Bachelorette by filming "her story" as she calls it on the flight back to Minnesota from the breakup. Quick recovery! 'Atta girl! 

If history is predictor of future behavior, viewers that support Becca will take significantly longer to resolve their feels. IMO. Gosh, I guess it's already taken longer and it's only one day following the ATFR show.

I'm telling you...that bus is coming soon. .

Kolormiblnd wrote:I don't believe that Arie loved/loves either one of these ladies. I think Arie wants a woman at his beck and call. Someone  adoring, to go with him on his racing circuit and scratch his itch whenever the need arises. I hope Lauren is ready to fit into that role, because he is expecting it. His complaint yesterday about how it wasn't easy for him because Becca was working, was so stupid. What did he expect her to do when the season wasn't over yet? His pure unadulterated selfishness was on full display yesterday.  AMO

Yeah I thought this was overlooked very quickly. He literally wants his woman to not have a life of her own. Big difference between "flexible schedule" and at my beck and call IMO.

Mommyof2 wrote:

Diana wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:

Which he owned up to post-show.  

JMO He hasn't "owned" up to anything at all that is the frustrating part

Yes, he did.  Go watch the media rounds interviews.  

Last night live, Arie apologized and definitely owned up to his behavior. 
BUT--even if no one in the world chooses to believe this --Becca chose to accept his apology. She even reached over to him and said I accept your apology and I forgive you. 
It takes a big person to do that. If she is willing to do that, IMO that is an excellent example to follow. JMOAA

Mommyof2 wrote:

FLChica wrote:

Mommyof2 wrote:The good news is that Becca has moved on.  

Yep, Becca moved on immediately and started her transformation into the next Bachelorette by filming "her story" as she calls it on the flight back to Minnesota from the breakup. Quick recovery! 'Atta girl! 

If history is predictor of future behavior, viewers that support Becca will take significantly longer to resolve their feels. IMO. Gosh, I guess it's already taken longer and it's only one day following the ATFR show.

I'm telling you...that bus is coming soon.  .  

I’m really perplexed. So much of this Becca low key shade feels so “blame the victim” to me.

I hate that classy now is understood to mean "letting a liar, cheater, and manipulator get away with sh*t". I think a person can be classy and still stand up for themselves and still say "the way that you behaved was disrespectful, cruel, and totally unacceptable". I'm all for Becca doing whatever she needed to do to find peace (and make the producers happy), but I certainly don't think she needed to do what she did or that it's a model that other wronged women should follow. IMO.

Aria wrote:I hate that classy now is understood to mean "letting a liar, cheater, and manipulator get away with sh*t". I think a person can be classy and still stand up for themselves and still say "the way that you behaved was disrespectful, cruel, and totally unacceptable". I'm all for Becca doing whatever she needed to do to find peace (and make the producers happy), but I certainly don't think she needed to do what she did or that it's a model that other wronged women should follow. IMO.

Word! Becca can take the high road all she likes, but it doesn't mean that we can't make up our own minds about Arie and his behaviour. JMO.