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Post by Dirty Street Pie Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:33 pm

Watching on delay as I’m in Oz, but what a yawn fest was Arie and Lauren’s date? And the look on her face for what they showed us of the day portion? You’re in Paris, hon, stop looking like you just smelled a fresh fart!
I guess now that the Krystal show is done they can start to focus more on the contenders, but if this weeks show was any indication, the edit will not be kind to Arie and Lauren.
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Post by mtnlvr55 Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:35 pm

We know that Arie was willing to interfere in Jef (his friend) and Emily's relationship by sending her is diary. Knowing this, it seems highly likely (my opinion) that he would be willing to entertain a pitch from Lauren B even though he was engaged to Becca. If that is the case, he may have been communicating with her(lauren) for sometime following the FRC.
They may very well have had, with TPTB help, a pretty extensive relationship, including possibly, SHV following the wrap up of filming
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Post by Imp Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:35 pm

Aria wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:
Aria wrote:

The picking Lauren, yes, that obviously would have to be done on-camera. I don't see why the Becca breakup needed to be him blindsiding her on-camera. Obviously, the show would have wanted that, but Arie could have easily done it off-camera or told her as a warning that it was coming. Mills said he wanted to film Arie going to Emily's because that was a huge thing and would have made for great TV, but he did it without telling them. So, why not this? The show wouldn't have loved it, but they could have done a re-enactment like with Jason/Melissa or a sit-down interview with Arie alone/separate sit-down with Becca and made it work. This just seems unnecessarily cruel. IMO.

Arie showing up at Emily’s over five years ago doesn’t relate to this IMO. It was five years ago. He wasn’t the lead. The show wasn’t as popular as it is now. When Jason did it, how many years ago was that? More than five, so that’s even more in the past and it was the first time it had ever happened.

I don’t see how Arie, who was having second thoughts and seemed to be hurting over his decision, was supposed to keep his mouth shut and not mention this to his producers for the show that he’s the lead for. Once production found out, they were going to do what they wanted to do. JMO




It relates because it shows that he has broken the rules before and goes against what his contract said. Just a month ago, he was posting pictures with Becca on his IG, which again is a major violation of his contract. He does what he wants to do, regardless of the rules or what producers want or his contract.

I'm not saying that he had to keep his mouth shut and not let producers know. That still doesn't mean that he had to blindside her with a breakup on-camera during a SHV. I mean, he called Lauren on Jan 1st off-camera didn't he? So clearly not everything was on-camera. It's pretty simple to me. Unless the producers had locked him up with no phone or internet access and this was literally the only he could get the message to Becca, he could have done it off-camera and just called her. Instead he let her think she was going to a normal SHV and blindsided and humiliated her. IMO.

On Emily's season, Arie had nothing to lose for breaking the rules (except being the Bachelor - which, well, he wasn't!), but here the producers might well have said something like "if you let us film the breakup without giving Becca the heads up, we will give you and Lauren a favourable edit, and if not.." I would like to think he didn't volunteer to do break Becca's heart on camera and that TBTP simply have that much leverage over him, but I guess you never know. And I think so far, they are getting a relatively favourable edit. The boring date could have been just that - a boring date, but they're giving it this whole backstory of Lauren having a difficult time opening up and being guarded.

PS wasn't the "generic park in Paris" scene with Chris totally something they filmed just recently to fill in the narrative?! So obvious..

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:38 pm

That date was so boring, the girls did most of the narrating . giggling

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Post by Storybook Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:59 pm

Dirty Street Pie, for me, watching Lauren and Arie's date was exciting as watching paint dry. If it wasn't for them being in a Paris I would've turned the show off. I am fortunate to have been to Paris many times. I can't believe we had to watch them walking past open air markets looking totally bored. And the Luxembourg Gardens are beautiful but so crowded. It was hardly a private place to have a deep, meaningful talk. And if I heard Arie say 'if Lauren doesn't open up she won't get a rose' once more I would now need a new TV.

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Post by Mommyof2 Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:03 pm

Lauren is just quiet. Nothing wrong with that. Reminds me a lot of Lauren Bushnell. Stays out of the drama and just is naturally soft-spoken.
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Post by Diana Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:07 pm

Arie clearly likes the chase. It won't be long until he's chasing another woman and is broken up with Lauren. I am not actively rooting for them to fail but the writing is clearly on the wall. These two probably don't have a shot in h e double hockey sticks of getting married.

JMO
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Post by Storybook Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:13 pm

There is certainly nothing wrong with Lauren being quiet and soft spoken. I like those qualities in a woman. I actually don't mind Lauren, she seems sweet and is very attractive. But she was in Paris, with a man she likes, and she didn't show one ounce of excitement apart from a 'wow' now and again. I personally found their date to be boring.

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Post by Aria Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:15 pm

Imp wrote:
Aria wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:

Arie showing up at Emily’s over five years ago doesn’t relate to this IMO. It was five years ago. He wasn’t the lead. The show wasn’t as popular as it is now. When Jason did it, how many years ago was that? More than five, so that’s even more in the past and it was the first time it had ever happened.

I don’t see how Arie, who was having second thoughts and seemed to be hurting over his decision, was supposed to keep his mouth shut and not mention this to his producers for the show that he’s the lead for. Once production found out, they were going to do what they wanted to do. JMO




It relates because it shows that he has broken the rules before and goes against what his contract said. Just a month ago, he was posting pictures with Becca on his IG, which again is a major violation of his contract. He does what he wants to do, regardless of the rules or what producers want or his contract.

I'm not saying that he had to keep his mouth shut and not let producers know. That still doesn't mean that he had to blindside her with a breakup on-camera during a SHV. I mean, he called Lauren on Jan 1st off-camera didn't he? So clearly not everything was on-camera. It's pretty simple to me. Unless the producers had locked him up with no phone or internet access and this was literally the only he could get the message to Becca, he could have done it off-camera and just called her. Instead he let her think she was going to a normal SHV and blindsided and humiliated her. IMO.

On Emily's season, Arie had nothing to lose for breaking the rules (except being the Bachelor - which, well, he wasn't!), but here the producers might well have said something like "if you let us film the breakup without giving Becca the heads up, we will give you and Lauren a favourable edit, and if not.." I would like to think he didn't volunteer to do break Becca's heart on camera and that TBTP simply have that much leverage over him, but I guess you never know. And I think so far, they are getting a relatively favourable edit. The boring date could have been just that - a boring date, but they're giving it this whole backstory of Lauren having a difficult time opening up and being guarded.

PS wasn't the "generic park in Paris" scene with Chris totally something they filmed just recently to fill in the narrative?! So obvious..

Oh, I'm sure they did the "if you don't breakup with her on-camera, we'll give you a bad edit" threat just like they gave Jason if he didn't propose to Melissa. It's still on you, though, if you hurt someone else to try to save yourself from a bad edit. It's also incredibly stupid, because Arie and Lauren are going to be hated regardless. I like Lauren, but everyone is talking about how snobby, entitled, and boring she appeared and how Arie is clearly only into her for her looks. They're not getting out of this well-liked, no matter what, IMO.

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Post by Mommyof2 Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 pm

Storybook wrote:There is certainly nothing wrong with Lauren being quiet and soft spoken. I like those qualities in a woman. I actually don't mind Lauren, she seems sweet and is very attractive. But she was in Paris, with a man she likes, and she didn't show one ounce of excitement apart from a 'wow' now and again. I personally found their date to be boring.

Heavily edited. Jmo.
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Post by Storybook Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:24 pm

Heavily edited maybe the case. But as the veiwer it doesn't make me want to invest in them as a couple, or the show.

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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:26 pm

bluwavz wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:Unless the editing was strange just then, when Becca was called, the camera caught Bekah mouthing OMG when Beccas' name was called (perhaps vs Chelsea?).  
So maybe without the spoiler of Becca being F1, the connection was not as great as led to believe?

Well if that's true then he's an even bigger douchebag for proposing to her.

ITA that it makes Arie an even bigger douchebag  no no jmo
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