Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

Kashathediva wrote:@havadrpepper regarding your question about number 5: I read that regarding RS. I don't know if it really happened. That's what I read.

star_D wrote:Because they think people will say they risk all for love. I am not buying it. To me, it’s cheat.

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umngirl wrote:But maybe Lauren didn’t know Arie was with Becca when they talked. It’s no guarantee she knew. Yes spoilers were out but doesn’t mean she has to believe it. Also, the level of hate she is gonna get is warranted at all.

That would make it even worse for her to be conned by Him and now know the truth . How could a relationship last being built on quicksand. I think he gave her full disclosure and she went for it and now it was up to him to break it off with Becca. In reality, even that foundation is rocky. This is a mess for sure.

TheWrongReasons wrote:

mslat92 wrote:

TheWrongReasons wrote:


I actually think it takes guts for both Arie and Lauren to take a chance on this considering the backlash they must know they will get from the general public. I kind of like the “eff this, I don’t care if they hate me, I love you, can’t stop thinking about you and want you back” thing - it’s messy and passionate and certainly compelling.  If it doesn’t feel right with Becca, IMO it’s better for all involved to admit the mistake now rather than waste more time/emotion.

And I’m so here for the drama that will be the ATFR/aftermath This season has gotten a lot more interesting to me.

The thing is, I don't think it's really a mentality of 'eff this' but rather them believing that people will accept this version of what their selling as their love story. I think they'll quickly realise that isn't the case, or maybe naively hope that by the time the AFTR rolls around, people will have accepted their narrative, but Arie is already being mocked and criticised by Bach Nation as a horny old dude - so I think this switcheroo will only make him look worse. If he was THAT confused to begin with, he should never have proposed to Becca. The vibe I get is he just doesn't know what he wants. I give his relationship with Lauren 6 months, tops.

I disagree. I don’t think they would be under any illusions that they will have everyone cheering them on given what initially happened to Jason and Molly. IMO the easier route would be for him to quietly end it with Becca and not ask Lauren for another chance until later down the line when things have quieted down. Most Bach “engagements” end after a few months and nobody bats an eye. IMO Arie & Lauren deciding to take a risk now says maybe they are willing to endure the shtstorm to come because they feel it’s worth it.

As for the proposing thing, sure, it would have been nice if he hadn’t  done it, but a proposal on The Bachelor IMO is widely accepted as an agreement to give a relationship a shot, not necessarily equal to a conventional engagement.

I wish all three luck in dealing with this as I like them all

littlereddress wrote:Well according to RS Arie contacted Lauren Jan. 1 new's years on the night of the first show.  And he was liking her pics in December.  So it sounds like this was brewing awhile and he had second thoughts maybe after a few SHVs visits with Becca.

This damn shows messes with your head because it seems the lead is always conflicted between the F1 and F2 and somehow on the last day the lead has a moment of clarity when in fact they could be still confused.  I have never been able to  understand how you can sleep with F1 Monday and F2 on Tuesday and then make a choice on Wednesday.  It's too much.

Having said that knowing Arie's history I don't think it will last with Lauren either.  Imagine if he breaks it off with her before the ATFR and he has 2 women glaring at him on the sofa.

tigertiz wrote:Can someone who has been paying more attention to SM than me please put together a timeline of the relevant dates of all of the clues, such as:
The pre-premier visit of Becca to Scottsdale (dirtbike /helmets photo) ,  Arie and Becca at the same backyard pool photos (safe house visit),  the day that Becca seemed to get suddenly quiet on SM, the day she posted the wilted flowers, and "at least my cat still loves me" and finally - the day that Arie and the limos were in Lauren's parents driveway in Virginia.  Thanks in advance.  I'm just wondering how recent all of this was.

BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:Call me crazy but I think I would much rather see this scenario than someone going through the motions and faking it.... much better to cut the cord if you have doubts IMO... for all we know he was as confident as he could be while in the bubble and the reality was very different... sucks for Becca of course but I’m not judging... all the best to all 3!