Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - F1-F4 - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Lucas15 wrote:

Stone_Hedge wrote:@Lucas15 I get what you are saying and it is intriguing to say the least. As with others it would upset me if Lauren was in on this and I do have my suspicions because there are loose ends. If true that Arie didn’t handle things right with Becca and was cold etc...
It was because he wanted out of there with as little drama for him to get to Lauren imo. We shall see how this all unfolds. If not now , things will come out later.
Jmo

I don't think that Lauren was "in on it". I do think she was aware of it, and perhaps wanted it to happen - perhaps wanted it to happen very badly - but I don't think she did anything other than wait for Arie to clean up the mess he made and be there once he was done with that. I have some thoughts on the part of this which involves Arie and Becca but I'll save that for a bit later.

Lucas15 wrote:I have a lot of thoughts on Kolormiblnd's post on the F1-F2 Switch-A-Roo thread and here's one or two for starters:

Kolormiblnd wrote:snip
Him telling Lauren that this is going to get worse before it gets better is reinforcement for me.
I believe he told her in FS how this was going to go down and she told him that to be with him in the end she would play ball - Ergo fast forward the reason she was in Virginia after the filming, not looking for work or living in her own apartmment. Waiting in the wings for the sh**storm to begin!! (A lot of things make sense to me now, right after filming watching the footprints of instagram, I cannot put my finger on it but I kept feeling that Lauren was behaving more like the real F1 than Becca)
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There's more than just Arie's "telling" comment that it will get harder before it gets easier. Before the FS night, Lauren was saying things like this:

I'm scared to have my heart broken but that stems from me being afraid to lose you. ... I do see a future with you but it's hard for me to be hopeful about it.

But the next morning she was saying this:

Our relationship is so much further along after our night of conversations. ... I think you're really good about putting my mind at ease. ... My concerns about everything I was worried about yesterday have subsided. ... I'm so happy we got to talk about a lot of things I needed to get off my chest.

That's quite a big left turn from the night before to the morning after - especially from someone who has been fearful and scared for weeks. What in the world could Arie have told her that would make her change her confidence level? IMO he told her what was going to happen - that he was going to have to pick Becca at the FRC (thus the reason things would get harder) but would break it off and come back for her (thus how they would get easier). The liking of two IG posts from Lauren was something subtle but IMO meaningful to Lauren - a reminder that he was still "on track". This was IMO confirmed on the Jan 1 conversation Arie had with Lauren. IMO Lauren was posting like the real F1 because she knew that was coming - this was all a couple of weeks of "unknown" to get past on the way to what she wanted.

Kolormiblnd wrote:snip
I also don't buy the fact that Lauren took him back right away without rancor - doesn't jive with me, especially for a woman who had that much insecurity throughout the season and was rejected on national television - the stuff of nightmares. Not making him sweat a little? It just looks like she made the reunion too easy for Arie unless she knew before hand that it was going to go down like this.
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And that's another "tell" IMO. IMO unless Lauren knew ahead of time that it was going to go like this I don't think she would have been willing to even talk to Arie let alone start dating him and apparently (based on the latest news) accept a marriage proposal from him weeks later. I think she would have retreated back into her protective shell and turned off every emotion she could possibly turn off. But she didn't do that. Furthermore, unless Lauren told her family what was really going on her father would have been looking to effing kill Arie before he made it one step inside the front door - but that apparently didn't happen either (or we'd be talking about the first Bachelor funeral).

The simplest assumption I can make as to why all these things happened is that Lauren knew the story board because Arie told her on the FD.

happygolucky wrote:Just a question, since I've never watched JPG's season ... is the only reason he is branded as the worst TB because he didn't say ILY to his F1 at the FRC and didn't propose? - Because if so, that must be the best finale ever.

littlereddress wrote:Word.  No proof and only speculation but it just seems like Arie told Lauren in the FSD what was going to happen and give her reassurance.  There was a story board that he had to adhere to.  IMO.  Especially when I read the excerpt from the the Bachelor book that is coming out saying once you sign the contract you have no control over how the show will be presented.  

Reality TV is so close to scripted TV at this point. It takes a really sophisticated set of skills to be able to manipulate those emotions out of people -- and viewers are so keen to phoniness. A lot of the producers who make reality TV are really, really smart. They're performing like CIA-level interrogations.

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you truly cannot know what you're signing up for. You can't understand the power of editing. There are a lot of really smart people making these shows. It's a chess game you can't win. There have been some people on reality TV who have totally worked the system, like the Kardashians, who have final cut on their show because they're producers. But on "The Bachelor," you can't anticipate what you're going to feel like when you have no phone, no Internet, no computer, no books, no radio, can't control over your food and there's a ton of alcohol. It's pretty hard to keep control.