BACHELOR 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr General Discussion - **NO SPOILERS** - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

^Not watching, but it's strange that Lauren and Arie are being shown as awkward.

P.S. @Sprite, I die over your commentaries 998% better than the show!

Maybelline brow commercial. Is it just me does anyone else find those brows creepy/scary/hideous?

And we are back and it is night in Paris. Ladies are chatting and Kendalll wants that single date. So does Jacqueline. Finally we hear her speak....bye Jackie.

Let's get all dressed up...group date. Jacqueline, Kendall or Jacqueline are the only ones not named. Krystal doesn't care who is on the 2:1 with her...it's game on.

Dumbo thinks they had a great date...even though hasn't gotten to know her and she needs to open up for him to get to where he needs to go. More awkward silence and stilted conversation. Apparently they were both overwhelmed. It is hard for her to be her???? WTH. So stupid.

In her past relationships, she put them in the friend zone for at least six months until she trusts them. Well, that sucks for the sex Arie. That will be hard for him.

Now he shares that his most important relationship was with a woman who had 2 kids. They lived together and she got pregnant but lost the baby while he was on the road and called to tell him and that she wouldn't be there when he got back.

She admits she was engaged and he changed as soon as they got engaged. Now she is almost in tears that she won't open up enough, but he has confidence and gives her the rose...because he waited a long time for her and he hopes they can continue.

She is bowled over. She thinks this is working. He is a kind, caring, thoughtful person who makes her feel safe and she could fall in love with him. Sure...although I will admit this is the most thoughtful conversation he has had. I do see chemistry here....ramping up right on schedule.

Sprite wrote:Maybelline brow commercial. Is it just me does anyone else find those brows creepy/scary/hideous?

@Sprite, I've been working on this type of brow myself! Now you're telling me that you don't like them!  

Sprite wrote:She admits she was engaged and he changed as soon as they got engaged. Now she is almost in tears that she won't open up enough, but he has confidence and gives her the rose...because he waited a long time for her and he hopes they can continue.

Sounds like the wall broke here, and it sounds like we might have our ex-boyfriend, actually ex-fiance. If he comes back, man, I wonder if either Arie cuts her loose or if she walks away from him.

Sprite wrote:She is bowled over. She thinks this is working. He is a kind, caring, thoughtful person who makes her feel safe and she could fall in love with him. Sure...although I will admit this is the most thoughtful conversation he has had. I do see chemistry here....ramping up right on schedule.

Did you notice a different side to Arie with Lauren? If you did, then that's a big, big clue. Yes, we're on schedule for the love story to come on scene. It also sounds like a conflict could be forming.

Arc de Triomphe...amazing. You have to get to it through an underground tunnel. You can't cross, I can't remember....6 or 8 lanes of traffic. Definitely worth it.

Back to the group date ladies and big Becca talking about the glitz and glam of Paris. They are walking  around, hoping they are doing a fashion show. Instead it is the Moulin Rouge.

Jenna has spoken. *** Jenna has spoken. *** And again. Bye Jenna

Poor Tia knows what is coming. The dancers are in thongs...she is not thrilled. Plus she is not good at choreography. Sienna is in her element as a dancer. Baby Becca loves her outfit. Most are excited. Some not.

Which ever ladies get the rose from Arie will get to go in the actual show tonight.

Poor Tia...she would love to end up on stage with Arie tonight...alone. Has she seen the show...the can can? You will definitely not be alone.

The black box is in full effect and Arie is loving it. I'm sure all that a** was AMAZING!

VIP room. All the ladies loved the day.

He tells them the rose tonight is not based on their dancing, but on their connection.

He pulls Tia aside first. She tells him that was the most uncomfortable. He doesn't believe. She thinks they have something and he lies that they do. She is talking and he just wants to make out.

Chelsea is getting nervous. Comparing herself to a 22 year old free spirit and she is a 29 year old mom.

He pulls baby Becca. She said she had fun and she sees possibilities. Meanwhile, he is having a hard time looking her in the eye when she says that, but not shoving his tongue down her throat.

Lots of narration from big Becca tonight. Also more of Sienna tonight. She is trying to talk, blah, blah, blah, he is looking bored. Asks if she knows French and she obliges...as does he...with his tongue.

Didn't see big Becca or Jenna or Chelsea time. Baby Becca gets the rose. Of course she does, she was the only one walking and strutting her stuff like a real dancer.

They go back and BB is dressed as a blonde. The other ladies are sitting in the audience sucking on lemons....oops, it only looks like it. They are all feeling insecure watching them. They would be even more p*ssed if they saw them making out as soon as they got off the stage.

He is falling for her...sure.

veg_out wrote:

Sprite wrote:Maybelline brow commercial. Is it just me does anyone else find those brows creepy/scary/hideous?

@Sprite, I've been working on this type of brow myself! Now you're telling me that you don't like them!  

Just don't make them so big and thick that they freak people out.

Back in the hotel and Arie is all anxious and pacing in his room. He has never been on a date with two women...but you dated...12, 13 etc at the same time. I would think that would be harder.

Krystal reads the  2:1 card...Kendall and her. We will always have Paris. Krystal is just rubbing it in Kendall's face and meantime Krystal is drunk in the ITM's. She thinks she is fun wife material. More like nightmare material.

Poor Kendall is nervous and Krystal is very confident. We know how that usually works out...bye, bye Krystal.

The ladies arrive to the chateau and they awkwardly look around.

Arie discusses his relationship with them. Has lots of q's about Kendall since she has never had a long relationship. Meanwhile Krystal has had her issues. Takes them to a maze and they have to find him.

Back at the hotel the ladies are wondering whose luggage will get taken. They don't know his relationship with Kendall, but all are gleeful about his issues with Krystal from last week. I'm sure none of them would be sorry to see her get her a** kicked out. Lots of Tia commentary. They think Krystal is up to something and has a plan.

Meanwhile Krystal is making out with Arie in the maze as Kendall is aimlessly wondering around.

Next up a Reddiwhip commercial with Shawn and Katlin with lots of suggestive innuendo before they go and watch the Bachelor. Keep your day jobs.

Back at the chateau. Apparently all made it out of the maze safely.

He pulls aside Krystal. If he sees the same Krystal as last week it will make his decision easy. This is her last chance. He has a lot of questions. He keeps brushing her hair off her face. He is still harping about insulting his character. Wants her to come to him if she has issue. Wished she has said stuff to his face. She is such an actress. She tells him she trusts him. He trusts her with his tongue.

He feels she is sincerely apologetic....until she asks why Kendall is on this date with her. Is Kendall in a position to get married and fall in love. She is acting like she is doing him a favour by bringing up doubt about Kendall. She comes back and is rubbing it in Kendall's face. She is 99% sure Kendall is going.

Next up Kendall. He tells her what Krystal said...is Kendall ready for marriage. She answers it's not about when, it's about finding someone who brings that out in her. She is not happy with Krystal. Now she confronts Krystal....you don't know, you just think you do. You do this when you are backed in a corner. She dates someone just like Krystal.....who says hurtful things when confronted. Wow. This is just stupid. Krystal is feeling all smug.

Here comes Arie looking all uncomfortable. Difficult decision and he can't make it yet. They will have dinner and then he will decide. Shockingly Krystal is surprised he can't make up his mind. It is obvious to her. To me too. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Krystal. Can't wait to see her smug look wiped off her face.

We are back and Krystal is frustrated and annoyed. Lovely spot with the Eiffel Tower all lit up in the background. OMG Here she goes again. Being all smug with Kendall...telling her that she was patronizing. Pot calling kettle. Says she doesn't have trouble connecting with people. What a bitch.

I quite like Kendall. She is astute and articulate and handling the bitch with grace.

Krystal just can wipe the smug look off her face. Magical journey. Happy they were able connect and pick up where they left off. The silence is deafening. She will get what she came here for...it's destiny.

All the ladies think that Krystal has a stronger connection and she will be coming home...except baby Becca. She wouldn't be surprised if Krystal goes...look at Trump winning she says. Nobody expected that.

Tia says she will jump in the river if Krystal comes back.

Arie pulls aside Kendall....and we see none of it.

Comes back and Kendall gets the rose while Krystal retains the smug smile...she is floored. Just floored. Does he not want a confident  woman.  She is putting on a brave face she says. She really wants to be loved, accepted and loved. Good acting Krystal. At least she was left in Paris and not on an island or the desert....as Kendall and Arie are stiffly making out on a sparkling Eiffel Tower. Yeah, nothing there either. Just a means of getting rid of Krystal....I wonder if she will try to come back? You know, because he made a mistake?

Another preview of Bachelor Winter games with the Bibs crying. Honey, you will be up against Ashley for that shtick. Better change your game play.

Arie comes in a hot little red car to pick up Jaqueline....also in red. Meanwhile, the convertible breaks down like 10 feet into their journey. It's like real life....as he tries to act all manly trying to fix the car. 

They go shopping. I like her. She is too good for him. They make out a bit. Today has been cool and so much fun. He likes her and they have so much chemistry. Of course, they do.

They go to dinner at Maxim's. She is doing all these ITMs and VOs about how she is looking for love...make out. It's awesome. New word of the day.
He actually ate. I saw chewing. He thought she was too intelligent for him...me too. She nails him with...why don't you gravitate to someone who is intelligent? She still needs to continue her education...PhD. Blah, blah, blah. He says there is chemistry, but I don't. He is telling her it's not her, it's him. Feels like he would be holding her back. Sure.

Why are you crying over this duffus who you don't even know? She doesn't want to say goodbye. Meanwhile here is the but....different lives, don't give up your dreams....damn...he does give her the rose! He wants to see where this goes??? Her ambitions are just an obstacle for them to work through together. Sure. I'll buy that. Do you have some swamp land I could buy?

^Go, Jacqueline! There are a million more fish in the sea, one of which will complement you perfectly if that's what you want.

ETA: It's probably important if we don't see any of Arie's time with Kendall or Becca. If Bekah or Lauren are F1, sometimes they do skimp on the intense footage of the other relationships that were somewhat viable, meaning that Kendall and Becca are likely not F1. I remember that JoJo's time with Chase was often eliminated or shown from a less intrusive angle (after their first 1:1) since JoJo and Jordan were strong. Poor Ben: Nothing was held back regarding him and JoJo; I sometimes believe wholeheartedly that TPTB were instigating a split between BenLo prior to ATFR.

Paris at night is so beautiful.

RC....Becca is nervous. They look to be in Madame Tussauds. No CP.

This week has been AMAZING and made lots of memories. Paris is the city of love and he feels he is finding it here.

Tia...bows when he gives a rose. Nervously, not trying to be amusing.
Sienne
Becca

Jenna...we knew that was coming. She is kind of hysterically crying. WHY???

Chelsea I am somewhat surprised at that one. I knew it was coming, just didn't expect it yet. She is disappointed and wants love. She is getting a sympathetic edit...surprising after the M&G.

Next up Tuscany, Italy. I think they are more excited about Tuscany....except Lauren who is whining to a producer about how all she is concerned about is Arie. She has been looking for this type of guy, blah, blah, blah. She has a strong connection to him and it is so hard!!! They are pounding us over the head with her heartbreak. I really don't care. They are boring me to death

Preview of next week...Looks like a single date for Becca...they are wondering the streets with a picnic basket. Also Sienne looks to have a single date trekking through the woods and making out. Baby is telling them only 4 will go to hometowns and Kendall tells him she is worried because they started so late. Looks like Lauren gets SQT?...or maybe another single date?...they are biking and wandering about town. They have a night portion as well...she is still worried about not opening up enough. Just stop. Tia wants him to meet the folks. Why girl? Why? You have zero chemistry. Baby is crying, Jacqueline is freaked out and Lauren still looks like she is sucking on lemons. Everyone is aghast and Arie is in tears, while Becca looks kind of pissed/bored.

Later this season...My boyfriend's back and you're going to be in trouble! Hey la, my boyfriend's back! He wants his girl and doesn't want to be on the show. It's his proposal to give. Tuscany changed everything (Becca VO I think). Lots to take in. Lauren with some tears. With some family member and Tia saying they don't know what they are doing and don't know him. At Machu Picchu with ? Confronted by a couple of fathers. Becca crying and a father saying he will kill Arie if he proves him wrong? Poor Arie doesn't know what to do....looks like a RC. Reflecting on some couch as we hear a girl crying.

Outtake with Arie and Lauren dancing on the banks of the Seine in the dark with some woman singing and playing the guitar. That actually looks romantic. 

Well, thank goodness things are finally picking up. Now that Krystal is gone and he has to make some serious cuts, we may see some interests on his part.