Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - ScreenCaps - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - Discussion #2

From this SC which was shown in the MTA commercial, it looks like that Peter bawling on the floor scene, where she likely cuts him, might happen in the daytime because he's wearing the white t-shirt and it looks like light is filtering in the room. They are already both bawling and she doesn't have her lashes on anymore.


Source: My SC

If the cutting happens in the daytime, what is going on with her and the umbrella at nighttime?

I also can't figure out where the following scene fits in the finale. Bryan is saying "I've given it my all." It kind of looks like her suite where she does her talking heads.


My SC

Her suite for comparison:

My SC

I can't make sense of these. In any case, it is going to be very dramatic indeed.

The picture of Peter crying could be the next morning of FS. Just a thought.

I'm starting to think she cuts Peter early. He comes back just like Reid and says he wants to propose.

There's a S/cap where Peter is wearing a gray chambray sweater where he says "I'm not giving you up, I won't give you up". Where does this scene be placed? Also, in this particular S/cap Peter's eyes has a lil bit of dark circles (after crying the night before?).

Ilovepeter wrote:From this SC which was shown in the MTA commercial, it looks like that Peter bawling on the floor scene, where she likely cuts him, might happen in the daytime because he's wearing the white t-shirt and it looks like light is filtering in the room. They are already both bawling and she doesn't have her lashes on anymore.


Source: My SC

If the cutting happens in the daytime, what is going on with her and the umbrella at nighttime?

I also can't figure out where the following scene fits in the finale. Bryan is saying "I've given it my all." It kind of looks like her suite where she does her talking heads.


My SC

Her suite for comparison:

My SC

I can't make sense of these. In any case, it is going to be very dramatic indeed.

I looked a the clip of her walking in the rain and I can't see her crying I hear it in her tone.of the VO. Also in the season preview I can hear what sounds like Bryan voice saying something like she had a tough time last night. Can someone tell me where's that at when she is dressed in a gown and fur coat or shawl, at the beginning of the season preview.?

@pbmax Are you referring to this:

ilovepeter wrote:At 1:10 in the episode 7 preview below, someone says "After last night, she will have a tough time ever believing in love again."

Has this already happened? I don't remember it from episode 7 or 8. Whose voice is that - Peter's or Bryan's?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3axh4xricuw

If so, some posters mentioned that this might have been Bryan during the Demario debacle but I don't think it was confirmed.

Ilovepeter wrote:@pbmax Are you referring to this:

ilovepeter wrote:At 1:10 in the episode 7 preview below, someone says "After last night, she will have a tough time ever believing in love again."

Has this already happened? I don't remember it from episode 7 or 8. Whose voice is that - Peter's or Bryan's?

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3axh4xricuw

If so, some posters mentioned that this might have been Bryan during the Demario debacle but I don't think it was confirmed.

Yes that's it, sounds like Bryan to me, I maybe wrong.

@Ilovepeter

I do not think it was daylight. They often use projectors. see all kind of shadows everywhere including floor


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You can see light from the window so it's not dark night I think.
Imo

I also believe those are all together

please note that rachel is wearing her lasheyes so the visit was not heartbreaking, she has also the same black top and the same hairstyle IMO

She probably came explaining the goodbyes with peter, her doubts ... which are confirmed with : I hope he did not change his mind...

I agree that the "I am not sure she will believe in love again after that" is Bryan

I think it happened at the end of their last date. She probably spent a fantastic date but she is still under the emotion that bryan played her like peter (I think Peter will tell her that he THOUGHT he was falling in love BUT after talking with priest/prieur he realized blah blah blah). I think he will take back his words about love and change them about care... so rachel will think that she had been played by Peter.

I believe she will project her fears on Bryan during their last portion of their date... heck bryan's frustration to convince her of his sincerity (I've given my all).... and explain why she says at the FRC: I hope he did not change his mind

I have also a theory that the first image is at a diner somewhere for the diner portion of their date, she offers the fantasy key card... but instead of staying the night, she leaves because she is still upset about what happened with Peter. (2 glasses of champagne indicates the fansasy suite IMO). We can also hear on a VO: am I forcing myself into something I am not ready for it? so IMO, those doubts will be projected on Bryan.

in order to see better, I highlighted the images





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djogbenyuie wrote:You can see light from the window so it's not dark night I think.
Imo

i kindly disagree.
i think it is a projector from the other side of the room on top of the furniture but we do not see it.
this room is full of shadows everywhere
also the direction of the light if it was from outside looks weird.
Peter is also wearing a cardigan or jumper in his hand on the floor, which IMO indicates it is the night portion .... but I think he went out with Rachel (cardigan/jumper can mean that) and came back to his room and had his very dramatic meltdown
2 glasses of wine on the table indicates night portion of the date. i doubt they would start drinking in the morning. 1 glass has a remain of wine in the bottom.

But it could be also the street lamps next to his hotel. steets are narrow in europe and it is very commun to have street lamps reflection inside rooms too but then I see partial light on the curtains, should be full imo


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@HEA I don't think Rachel left Bryan at the night portion of their FSD. Because normally, don't they go somewhere else for their date? Those SCs where Rachel left are Bryan's room. Normally the lead goes to the contestants for their LCD, so I think those are Bryan's LCD.

Besides, FS is where they can talk without camera being around so I don't think Rachel would spend the nights with the other two but not Bryan.

All Jmo.