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Re: Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - F1-F4 - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
brownravens wrote:Just on the topic of storyboards being leaked by TPTB early - on Laura's thread we discussed her story being written on the board and "leaked" to the paps.
But reading this below article on DM the second paragraph states - " And according to The Daily Telegraph, The Bachelor's Matty J and ex Hockeyroos star Elise Stacy 'have a great connection.' A source told the publication this week that the brunette beauty is a 'dark horse' and that Matty is falling hard for her.
This is also a pretty compelling case for the storyboard being "leaked" preseason. DM says that the DT had a source and it must be TPTB - the phrasing such as "dark horse" is all them IMO. This story has also been planted in April before filming even concluded which is super weird and early to be calling a potential dark horse.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4408780/The-Bachelor-s-Matty-J-falling-hard-Elise-Stacy.html#ixzz4p83juYDT
I thought exactly the same thing @brownravens. The Daily Telegraph have also printed a number of pics which IMO came straight from TPTB as there would be no way a papparazzi could get that angle (the front-on one of Elise and Matty in the hot tub, from the deck of the boat being a prime example).
As someone pointed out pre-season, The Daily Telegraph and Ch 10 are both owned by Newscorp. Combine the suspicious pics with the "dark horse" article, and the recent revelation that Elise was approached to be on the show and I think they had her pencilled in as F2 from the start, IMO.
No wonder she didn't look worried at that last RC.
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Re: Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - F1-F4 - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
@Bobette I think if you saw that photo from the medieval date Matty and Elise looked very comfortable and natural with each other - more so than pics of him and Cobie. So I'm wondering whether her SD was kept deliberately later so they could build into the dark horse story line.
I think it's hard for TPTB to fully plan a season's F2 without seeing the rapport between the lead and contestant. And Cam (GL's F5) also said he was recruited and he is also based in Perth so that might be why there are so many good candidates from out West because they target quite well.
I think it's hard for TPTB to fully plan a season's F2 without seeing the rapport between the lead and contestant. And Cam (GL's F5) also said he was recruited and he is also based in Perth so that might be why there are so many good candidates from out West because they target quite well.
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brownravens wrote:@Bobette I think if you saw that photo from the medieval date Matty and Elise looked very comfortable and natural with each other - more so than pics of him and Cobie. So I'm wondering whether her SD was kept deliberately later so they could build into the dark horse story line.
I think it's hard for TPTB to fully plan a season's F2 without seeing the rapport between the lead and contestant. And Cam (GL's F5) also said he was recruited and he is also based in Perth so that might be why there are so many good candidates from out West because they target quite well.
Yeah Perth people are tops It does make me wonder though how many if any of the serious contenders auditioned. Even Laura said she didn't really watch Georgia's season IIRC. I have this lingering suspicion that Matty had a hand in picking some of the girls - like maybe he trawled social media and gave them a shortlist of girls he'd like them to approach or something. Combine with the talk of him already knowing Laura, Jen and Lisa and this whole season is feeling increasingly suspect to me.
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Bobette wrote:brownravens wrote:@Bobette I think if you saw that photo from the medieval date Matty and Elise looked very comfortable and natural with each other - more so than pics of him and Cobie. So I'm wondering whether her SD was kept deliberately later so they could build into the dark horse story line.
I think it's hard for TPTB to fully plan a season's F2 without seeing the rapport between the lead and contestant. And Cam (GL's F5) also said he was recruited and he is also based in Perth so that might be why there are so many good candidates from out West because they target quite well.
Yeah Perth people are tops It does make me wonder though how many if any of the serious contenders auditioned. Even Laura said she didn't really watch Georgia's season IIRC. I have this lingering suspicion that Matty had a hand in picking some of the girls - like maybe he trawled social media and gave them a shortlist of girls he'd like them to approach or something. Combine with the talk of him already knowing Laura, Jen and Lisa and this whole season is feeling increasingly suspect to me.
I think that when there are recycled leads you have people coming on specifically to date these people and they do a sufficient amount of pre-stalking. Laura and Elise definitely followed Matty Ig pre-show so IMO they were interested in him already.
The Leah meeting him in IRL was mentioned in an interview she did but I can't remember the outlet. She basically said she saw him and ran away.
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brownravens wrote:
The Leah meeting him in IRL was mentioned in an interview she did but I can't remember the outlet. She basically said she saw him and ran away.
Totally the kind of thing I would do.
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@Bobette Haha yeah me too!
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Can anyone please point me to the thread where Laura's storyboard was discussed? A literal board? Thanks!
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@Billysmom it's discussed here: https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4319-bachelor-australia-season-5-matty-johnson-f1-f4-possible-f1-clues-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers and also on Laura's individual thread. The producer holding it (see below) is the biggest smoking gun IMO - it's just SUCH an awkward angle and so obvious they want the papps to get a shot of it, IMO.
Bobette wrote:Was just going through the BTS pics of the boxing group date and there are several of Laura's "message board" where she wrote about her biggest fear being letting her guard down and risking falling in love with someone who won't love her back (paraphrasing). Here she is holding it face out (so it can "accidentally" be photographed by the media) and then another pic of it being carried in an even more obvious manner by a crew member.
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There are no shots of the other girls' boards and no apparent attempt to show them off in the same manner as Laura's. This all seems suss to me - IMO they are trying to draw attention to Laura's backstory which I'm guessing will be that she's had a broken heart in the past and is scared to open up but she will let her walls down so she and Matty can mend their broken hearts together and yada yada yada. Classic F1 storyline, IMO.
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Thanks so much!!! Xo
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Thanks for postingmercieme wrote:Liz's pick for F1...spilt her vote between Lisa and Laura.....I find it interesting that she qualified her pick with "at this stage"...tell me more Lisa
"Liz believes Laura and Lisa will be the final two, saying: “I’d place them at a 50/50 at this stage.”
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Tally of eliminated contestants picks:
Lisa - 1.5 (Akoulina and Liz)
Elise - 1.0 (Belinda)
Laura - 0.5 (Liz)
It will be interesting to see what the other contestants say....
Just to make it easier for F1 picks by eliminated contestants:
Lisa = 2
Elise = 1
Laura = 1
For Belinda choosing Elise, it's interesting to me that she said Laura also a frontrunner but chose Elise because she thinks Elise is more compatible than Laura. So if Belinda knows F2 and they are Elise and Laura, if Laura is F1 it could be Belinda is just saying which she things would have been a better match (something contestants from past seasons did with choosing F2 as the winner/better match). OTOH, if Elise is F1 then Belinda could have insider info on that too and thus trying to push that narrative. Either way, her choosing Elise shows me she knows the ending.
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It's super interesting that Lisa is getting so many early votes because she hardly has any screen caps? Are we expecting this relationship to fizzle? Will she even make F4?
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I think it makes sense that Lisa is getting so many early votes just because she was a standout in the beginning. I definitely see the relationship fizzling not just because of lack of SCs but based on their SD, Lisa was just not into Matty imo.
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