Ben Higgins - Bachelor 20 - Discussion

Ok I still think that turn away kiss was an accident. Kinda like when you reach out to high five someone and they don't notice , awkward but not intentional IMO.

^ I completely disagree about him not wanting this to lead to marriage. I think he was at a place in life where he was ready to spend a life with someone. The ATFR thing, I'd say watch it back in it's entirety, because that was just a mix up IMO. He went to hug her while she went in to kiss him. He kissed her plenty of times on that AFTR so IMO I don't see how that's relevant...

@hannah.e. I have watched his ATFR completely before. The whole time I thought he was over the top, just like he was on his women tell all episode when he kept going on about how he would marry her tomorrow if he could. Silly IMO.

The missed kiss happened pretty much at the end of the ATFR, so perhaps he didn't think the cameras would be up in his face like that. It doesn't need to be relevant today. It's just my opinion. I thought it looked pretty clear to him that she was going in for a kiss, he turned his face and pulled her in for a hug instead.

I don't disagree in thinking that Ben thought he wanted a marriage to form from a relationship from this show. I personally just think once the show ended and they started filming HEA he knew she wasn't it. Heck, he was complaining in interviews during the summer while they were filming the show that they were just spending too much time together while filming the show so it was hard. Ben just comes off as incredibly immature, but that's just my opinion.

Re: Ben being ready for marriage. His ex Shaelin did a few interviews back when he was announced as the Bachelor. I specifically remember her saying in one of them that no way would he get married from this show and that he wasn't ready for marriage. I blew it off at the time. But she would probably know better than most.

I guess I'm just surprised to see the route Ben has taken. It's not even necessarily the interviews either. Just looking at his picture he posted today. Really, Ben?

When they talked about HEA making them spend too much time together, IMO I think what they meant was spending 24/7 with each other was unhealthy. Which, let's be realistic, can people really spend everyday attached to their SO? They were together but also like co-workers for their show. Then this year they went and did the polar opposite and spent like zero time together. I don't know what they were thinking tbh

As for him being over the top at WTA and ATFR, I think he was genuinely that happy. They were in a good place and he was excited to share that. Doesn't mean it was fake for TV.

Photos like Ben's latest IG just show how self involved and devoid of class he is. Ben seems to find this breakup to be a joke AND a funny way to try and keep himself in the media. IMO he just sinks lower and lower. I find Ben's attitude rude and disrespectful and mannerless.

I bet the Bushnell's are so disappointed that they fell for Ben's BS. When I think how kind and welcoming they were to Ben. I just imagine how Lauren's Mom and Dad must feel watching Ben act like such an A** toward their daughter.  
All JMO

Has Jojo liked comments on Ben's post before?? I have seen her liking the posts but the comments?? Is she scrolling through the comment section now???

What did she like?

I have no doubt, that if Lauren wanted to, she'd easily get a few interviews to line up, to talk about the break up. SO far she hasn't. She also has been quiet about her previous relationships, they weren't used as a plot line on the show. So I'm thinking that's her style. Ben is Imo clearly the blabber mouth. And imo his 'jokes' are tacky, IMO he comes across a bit bitter. Jmo.

I just can't believe he's basically making himself into a meme post breakup. I really thought he was gonna be quiet. Just work his 9-5 job and help with his foundation. The more I look at that photo of him, the more I think he's an attention seeking manchild. jmo

@bleuberry joelle_fletcher liked Sam.a.vence's comment: ...not taking things well
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IMO It's really weird ,what is she doing scrolling through Ben's comment section even if it was by accident . She wasn't even tagged in that comment . Liking a post ,I get it but random liking of comment ??