Nick Viall & Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - Discussion

I hate when people get mad about the prices of certain things. If you think that top or bag or w/e is too expensive then it's clearly not for you, keep scrolling and move on. All JMO.

ReneeM wrote:I hate when people get mad about the prices of certain things. If you think that top or bag or w/e is  too expensive then it's clearly not for you, keep scrolling and move on. All JMO.

I was just getting ready to post this!!!! Thanks. What is expensive to one is not necessarily expensive to another, the same with cheap. If we keep on expecting others to live by our expectations or the standards we've set for ourselves, we will be very disappointed. To each his own. Will I buy a $3K purse - no, but will I begrudge others who can afford them or get them for free, I won't either. IMO. I don't hold other people's purse strings. If they can't stop themselves from buying what other people are selling through their IG, not my monkey nor my circus. IMO

I'm the type of person who'd rather spend more money on something of quality and that will last than buy 10 things that won't. Quality over quantity is what I say. In the end, I think I have saved money over time because of this. Mixing high-end staple pieces (designer bags, etc) with more low-end pieces that won't be worn as much (like the dresses Vanessa wore on the show that were very cost-effective) is just smart shopping IMO. As for being a face for a brand or store or partnering with them, I think it's great and if any of her followers can't afford those things, well the answer is simple - don't buy them.

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ReneeM wrote:I hate when people get mad about the prices of certain things. If you think that top or bag or w/e is  too expensive then it's clearly not for you, keep scrolling and move on. All JMO.

I agree. I am putting in a large garden in my yard with a shed, raised beds, fencing, etc. My dad raised an eyebrow and said why are you spending so much money? I asked him if he would bat an eye at the cost if I took a vacation to Hawaii? He said, point taken. It's what's important to the person buying it, and it's their money.

I just got around to watching the finale and AFR. I honestly don't see what some were saying about them being awkward or uncomfortable. I thought they were very natural and real. Lots of smiles and happy times, but then times of looking uncomfortable when CH fired off five negative questions in a row. Jeez, Chris, how about asking them something positive instead of negative all the time.

Also just found out that my cousin was at the place Nick and Vanessa went on their gravity date at the same time. My cousin did it too. They saw N&V, but didn't go at the same time. I asked her why she didn't tell me, and she said they "weren't allowed to." Didn't get to ask if she had to sign some sort of agreement.

All JMO.

IMO the thing that makes Nissa's relationship different than other relationships coming from this show is their willingness to fight for their relationship. Where others have seemed so happy at ATFR and remained status quo for awhile, N and V were optimistic about their relationship and in the week and a half since the finale they seem more and more comfortable and supportive of each other. I love that they are finally getting to travel together and I think being in Wisconsin with his family will be just what they need. My guess is that they are going to get married sooner than Shawn and Kaitlyn, BenLo, and J and J. In all interviews before the show and since the finale, Nick has stated that he wants a family - @ 36 there is no time like the present.

@mgrissom I see that wedding next spring and at Fleiss expense.

@reason IDK if they will want it at Fleiss' expense unless MF is willing to acquiesce certain things.
Nick has a huge family. Vanessa appears to be likewise. One of the bigger complaints about production paid for weddings is the couple not having control over the guest list and being very limited on their personal invites.

Huh. That's so weird. Just kind of dawned on me that there are 2 Bachelor couples AND 2 Ette couples currently together. That's some kind of crazy record. How ironic that the minute Fleiss starts to really ramp up the drama and defocus on the love story, the couples actually start working.

I have no idea who will get married first, who will break up instead, etc. What I do think is N&V have a level of realism and maturity about them that I don't necessarily see with the others. Some of that is maybe age, but also Nick is very experienced with this franchise and I have to think that is playing a part too. The other three couples (especially the other Bach couple) came running out the gate THIS WORKED GETTING MARRIED ASAP, and then over time, as realism sets in that slows down. Which ultimately opens those couples up to scrutiny and critism. 

What N&V did was actually really smart, imo. It removed some scrutiny and public pressure on them. Now everything they do is just a pleasant surprise instead of like a let down that they don't have a date yet or whatever.  It also maybe removed some of the intense expectations and pressure these couples are under by just being real out the gate.

^Yeah, I think Nick knew exactly what he was doing. He was managing V's expectations all throughout the season and now he's doing it to us viewers. If there's one thing you can't call Nick, it's stupid. JMO.

@mindless Exactly. He's smart. He understands this show. He's kind of calculated. He/they knew what they were doing. It was kind of brilliant, imo and it sets them up in a better position long run.

I agree with all the Nissa being smart about this post. we saw on the show these two thinking ahead trying to anticipate the inevitable bumps in the road and navigating them together. Them being willing to acknowledge the imperfections of the environment in which they met and thinking hard together about how to make it work tells me just how real and serious they feel about each other and wanting to be together for the long haul. If it is all about being famous they wouldn't bother trying to solve any difficulties or obstacles that naturally arise for any of the couples that come from this show.

Kashathediva wrote:@reason IDK if they will want it at Fleiss' expense unless MF is willing to acquiesce certain things.
Nick has a huge family. Vanessa appears to be likewise. One of the bigger complaints about production paid for weddings is the couple not having control over the guest list and being very limited on their personal invites.

I honestly don't want them to have a Bachelor televised wedding. MF & Co will probably invite all of his exes from the Bach world and turn it into a complete circus. Unfortunately, ABC holds the rights to their wedding for 2 years so they might have to acquiesce if they want to get married within that time-frame and ABC wants it televised.

All JMO