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Post by Newto Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:50 am

IMHO: Kaitlyn and Shawn can split their time between US and Canada because they don't seem to have "real jobs." Vanessa's profession means she needs to be in one place for the entire school year. As for Nick, really can't figure out what he's doing for a living these days outside of Bach and DWTS. They will have to put down roots somewhere.


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Post by Mgrissom Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:05 am

In the last part of their date sitting on the couch, we never see both of their faces at the same time. I swear the look on Nick's face when she tells him she loves him has been switched the video and the sound don't go together when the shot is on him and she is talking. He doesn't react at all when she tells him she loves him - they must have rearranged that video.


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Post by Billysmom Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:36 am

Newto wrote:IMHO:  Kaitlyn and Shawn can split their time between US and Canada because they don't seem to have "real jobs."  Vanessa's profession means she needs to be in one place for the entire school year.  As for Nick, really can't figure out what he's doing for a living these days outside of Bach and DWTS.  They will have to put down roots somewhere.

^^^exactly. Which is why I think nick should be willing to give a bit more on this than Vanessa. If he were ben h with his own home and a job, or Jason with a son, etc etc, things would be very different, IMO.

I'm actually hoping RS ' negative opinion of nick might be an added incentive for nick to prove him wrong re nick's willingness to compromise on this issue...
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Post by mindless Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:59 am

Mgrissom wrote:In the last part of their date sitting on the couch, we never see both of their faces at the same time.  I swear the look on Nick's face when she tells him she loves him has been switched the video and the sound don't go together when the shot is on him and she is talking.  He doesn't react at all when she tells him she loves him - they must have rearranged that video.


I thought Nick did react, there were tears in his eyes. Not that there aren't half the time, but I thought he looked deeply moved, so much so that he couldn't say anything even if he wanted to. JMO.
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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:07 am

I don't think just because one has a socially defined typical job that that alone should be reason for the other moving. Whomever earns the higher income (and has higher earning income potential, whomever wants to potentially be the breadwinner, if one wants children and possibly stay home, etc) and whatever is the long term strategy for the future (what makes sense for the couple in the long term, so years down the road) are what I could see as the deciding factors for Nick and Vanessa if they are thinking long term. There's a lot of unknowns still but whatever they decide as a couple together is what's best for them is what matters most, IMO.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:15 pm

Skates wrote:
Cocoasneeze wrote:I just rewatched their scenes, and holy goodness, they have these discussions I don't remember hearing on this show often. Core values. What they are willing to compromise on. Are they too similar as personalities. None of their discussions were Bach fluff and show speak. They're out of the bubble, while in the bubble. Amazing!

One of the sm complaints about Vanessa has been 'What show did she think she signed up for?!' And IMO that's a positive when it's been meant as a negative. She's not going to settle for being no appreciated, even though she met Nick on this show. And that's great. She doesn't want to be a default choice, when nothing else is left, she wants to be the first and only choice. That's brilliant, IMO.

  Vanessa's FS 1-4  -  Deleted Scenes from New Orleans  (Nick's talking to Chris about 5 girls - Vanessa is someone he is very attracted to and he needs more time to be with her)  -  The Untold Truth Of The Bachelor


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This makes me think now if rachel was just to get the lawsuit off their back.
I knew from the beginning that the producers probably told nick to keep rachel and jasmine on for a long time, it only made sense.

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Post by Catdwoman50 Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:26 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:I don't think just because one has a socially defined typical job that that alone should be reason for the other moving. Whomever earns the higher income (and has higher earning income potential, whomever wants to potentially be the breadwinner, if one wants children and possibly stay home, etc) and whatever is the long term strategy for the future (what makes sense for the couple in the long term, so years down the road) are what I could see as the deciding factors for Nick and Vanessa if they are thinking long term. There's a lot of unknowns still but whatever they decide as a couple together is what's best for them is what matters most, IMO.


This! It is not about who will make the sacrifice, it is about deciding together how they see their immediate and long term future, near term and long term priorities, and then collaboratively working towards that.


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Post by notarose Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:40 pm

Catdwoman50 wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:I don't think just because one has a socially defined typical job that that alone should be reason for the other moving. Whomever earns the higher income (and has higher earning income potential, whomever wants to potentially be the breadwinner, if one wants children and possibly stay home, etc) and whatever is the long term strategy for the future (what makes sense for the couple in the long term, so years down the road) are what I could see as the deciding factors for Nick and Vanessa if they are thinking long term. There's a lot of unknowns still but whatever they decide as a couple together is what's best for them is what matters most, IMO.


This! It is not about who will make the sacrifice, it is about deciding together how they see their immediate and long term future, near term and long term priorities, and then collaboratively working towards that.

:yes: We know Vanessa's first degree is in public policy. We see from her IG that she collaborated with Pi2 to create a vid for the Galilleo musical (Pi2 also had IG story vids of them editing more vids) and that she is working on a charitable initiate as per her photoshoot with Julia. Those are examples of blending her 2 degrees to do advocacy work. Obviously she too has professional flexibly.
It's not a sacrifice IMO to build a life with the person you love. It's a transition from singlehood to romantic partnership. If you don't marry the girl/boy next door you have more variables that need to be discussed. Normal stuff.


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Post by ukglasgowkiiss Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:43 pm

I have it sussed.
Atfr - Nick comes on dressed as a Canadian Mountie & proposes, she says yes then they ride off together on a moose.


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Post by notarose Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:59 pm

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:I have it sussed.
Atfr - Nick comes on dressed as a Canadian Mountie & proposes, she says yes then they ride off together on a moose.
OMG That's it!!!!!!


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Post by Cocoasneeze Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:17 pm

Catdwoman50 wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:I don't think just because one has a socially defined typical job that that alone should be reason for the other moving. Whomever earns the higher income (and has higher earning income potential, whomever wants to potentially be the breadwinner, if one wants children and possibly stay home, etc) and whatever is the long term strategy for the future (what makes sense for the couple in the long term, so years down the road) are what I could see as the deciding factors for Nick and Vanessa if they are thinking long term. There's a lot of unknowns still but whatever they decide as a couple together is what's best for them is what matters most, IMO.


This! It is not about who will make the sacrifice, it is about deciding together how they see their immediate and long term future, near term and long term priorities, and then collaboratively working towards that.

ITA! IMO if Vanessa and Nick decide to move to New York for example, they can discuss and decide together how often they'll try to visit her family, when they'll visit his family etc. It's not about one having to sacrifice and compromise, but both working and deciding together how they'll find a happy balance they both enjoy and are comfortable with. IMO neither one has a 'my way or the high way' mentality, both are open to work together and find that happy balance. JMO.
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Post by Sprite Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:20 pm

@cmarci93 The lawsuit was settled or dropped a while ago. Despite that, I have no doubt that this was still something that continued being brought up. Also, the fact that one of the new bosses at ABC is an African American woman has been speculated to have had something to do with it.


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