Re: Bachelor In Paradise - Season 4 - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

by Kashathediva Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:09 pm

@kmick0890 Thank you for your post. Gives me something to think about. I was thinking about the same thing with intervening as that scenario was probably over time and could have been interrupted at various points.

by mindless Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:15 pm

LeapofFaith wrote:I don't understand why it still dragging and still tptb are letting all these rumours fly... if they have video proof shouldn't it be squashed by now? Sorry but it just seems to becoming more of a mess the longer rumours get published.....jmo

Considering the sensitive nature of the footage, I doubt they'll show it to just anyone who asks. We've already heard their side of the story as in Corinne was "lucid" whatever that means to them. To hear anything resembling the truth, we'd need someone who wasn't there to begin with to give their opinion. JMO.

by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:32 pm

kmick0890 wrote:

I know we don't have all the facts of this story but I believe the RS version of the story too. Not to get to off topic, but I was at a panel with creators of reality tv shows from MTV and one of the questions they were asked dealt with when producers intervene with contestants. One of the creators mentioned they only get involved when cast members could do something dangerous to themselves or others.I'm tying this into the Bachelor in Paradise situation because my thought is if the producer who witnessed the act thought Corinne wasn't fully lucid, why didn't she try to intervene right away? Not to defend DeMario/Corinne but that just seems suspicious to me. I'm glad there are tapes though that could show what really went down.

Was this a recent panel? With regard to MTV, it is worth googling the Tonya Cooley lawsuit against them for what happened to her while she was on The Real World. I suspect that was the real catalyst for them stepping up in terms of trying manage contestant behavior.

by Duke702 Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:33 pm

I don't believe the RS version, because I don't believe they would stop/cancel the show over that and I don't believe a producer would give up her job/career for nothing. They would just simply send the 2 contestants home. It may not be as bad as the Daily Mail excerpt said....but it just doesn't add up to me

by sweeti810 Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:42 pm

From Corinne's interview with Ellen earlier this year after Nick's season...

Corinne: I was a little bit more promiscuous than I thought..would look
Ellen: Uh huh, were you drunk? I mean that's the thing, they give you a lot of liquor on that show, right? They get you all liquored up?
Corinne: There is alcoholic beverages, but I did know my limit, I never took it too far where I would black out or anything like that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6Z8jqStnE

Too bad she didn't stick to her limit this time.

by Guest Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:46 pm

MissSid wrote:Was this a recent panel? With regard to MTV, it is worth googling the Tonya Cooley lawsuit against them for what happened to her while she was on The Real World. I suspect that was the real catalyst for them stepping up in terms of trying manage contestant behavior.

That must be the case the attorney Mark Eiglarsh talked about with Martha MacCallum on her show on FoxNews last night. He said it was the show The Real World and it was settled out of court.

by **GuardianAngel** Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:51 pm

MissSid wrote:
kmick0890 wrote:

I know we don't have all the facts of this story but I believe the RS version of the story too. Not to get to off topic, but I was at a panel with creators of reality tv shows from MTV and one of the questions they were asked dealt with when producers intervene with contestants. One of the creators mentioned they only get involved when cast members could do something dangerous to themselves or others.I'm tying this into the Bachelor in Paradise situation because my thought is if the producer who witnessed the act thought Corinne wasn't fully lucid, why didn't she try to intervene right away? Not to defend DeMario/Corinne but that just seems suspicious to me. I'm glad there are tapes though that could show what really went down.

Was this a recent panel? With regard to MTV, it is worth googling the Tonya Cooley lawsuit against them for what happened to her while she was on The Real World. I suspect that was the real catalyst for them stepping up in terms of trying manage contestant behavior.

Thanks for that. I think the end result of this mess will be the same as @Kashathediva pointed out.

@Kashathediva wrote:
My gut tells me this will all be resolved off the record, out of court and sealed and we will never have another season of BIP. Something totally different will come back next year.

Wiki

In October 2011, Cooley filed charges that she was r*ped with a toothbrush by two of her fellow Real World cast members, Kenny Santucci and Evan Starkman, while passed out.[4] The case was settled in an out of court settlement on October 24, 2012. The details of the settlement have not been made public

by kmick0890 Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:53 pm

MissSid wrote:
kmick0890 wrote:

I know we don't have all the facts of this story but I believe the RS version of the story too. Not to get to off topic, but I was at a panel with creators of reality tv shows from MTV and one of the questions they were asked dealt with when producers intervene with contestants. One of the creators mentioned they only get involved when cast members could do something dangerous to themselves or others.I'm tying this into the Bachelor in Paradise situation because my thought is if the producer who witnessed the act thought Corinne wasn't fully lucid, why didn't she try to intervene right away? Not to defend DeMario/Corinne but that just seems suspicious to me. I'm glad there are tapes though that could show what really went down.

Was this a recent panel? With regard to MTV, it is worth googling the Tonya Cooley lawsuit against them for what happened to her while she was on The Real World. I suspect that was the real catalyst for them stepping up in terms of trying manage contestant behavior.

Yes. It was on Saturday. It was actually the creator/producer of The Real World that mentioned it. I don't want to get too off topic, I just thought that was interesting.

by Sable Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:04 pm

Bachelor In Paradise’ Cast Rallies Around DeMario Amid Sexual Assault Investigation
Insiders claim Corinne is 'out for fame' and was 'warned' about provocative behavior.

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/bachelor-in-paradise-cast-side-with-demario-jackson-sexual-assault-investigation/

by **GuardianAngel** Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:08 pm

Yikes! This is one article I can believe. Thanks @Sable

by LoveDovez Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:10 pm

This is gonna be a hot mess. I knew when I saw that Corrine was cast to be on it that something like this would happen.(She still doesn't think she did anything wrong on Nick's season)

Where the BIG problem is, no matter how many were around and could have seen this ( if it did happen) None of them could know for 100% if Corrine was in a blackout due to over drinking or not. She would have acted just as normal as she always does when drinking/drunk. Only she would have known she had a blackout the next morning.

I'm not disappointed it has been canceled because the cast that was gonna be on there does nothing for me. I have no interest in seeing Rachel's Girls get their groove on or Jo's left overs..

JMHO

by northernviewer Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:14 pm

Duke702 wrote:I don't believe the RS version, because I don't believe they would stop/cancel the show over that and I don't believe a producer would give up her job/career for nothing. They would just simply send the 2 contestants home. It may not be as bad as the Daily Mail excerpt said....but it just doesn't add up to me

I believe RS's info ... it makes the most sense to me and seems most consistsnt with this show. Once lawyers were brought into it, its reasonable to stop show while investigation is being done. This whole scenario is pathetic .... the show and Corinne.

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