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Post by Kashathediva Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:05 am

@Lara That's basically what I mean...they all wanted the prize, the hamburger. I don't even think in the long run the majority of F1 wants the lead. It easily turns into who won and where each finished. Even the media word it so.



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Post by TheWrongReasons Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:09 am

Lara wrote:Kristina was definitely doing it throw shade, but Danielle L actually seemed genuinely curious to me. She's not as close with rachel as the other girls, so she probably didn't know as much as they did, IMO. Jasmine also seemed genuinely curious and didn't seem to realize the connection until Whitney pointed it out. IMO.

I don't buy that they all wanted NIck, TBH. I think they wanted to go further in a competition, but out of all those girls, only DLo actually seemed to have genuine feelings for him, IMO.
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Post by sbolduc Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:11 am

Litta123 wrote:I'm reluctant to venture into this discussion because I didn't even know about this supposed fight between Rachel and Vanessa, but has it been considered that the Bimini fight could be a spill over from the St Thomas GD? I was left confused on the unspoiled side into exactly what happened between the girls. Everyone seemed to go their own corner and mope...then the Jasmine meltdown occurred. I remember feeling, what just happened?

I'm really not wanting to perpetuate this discussion as it seems unresolvable, but my instincts say it could have originated from the "competitive" VB date. That date ended very disjointed to the unspoiled viewer, imo.

RS indicated that for the St Thomas GD the reason the girls were upset was that whoever won the volleyball game would get to go to the after party losing team would go home. Vanessa's team lost - which lead to why Vanessa/Danielle were crying. Apparently Nick changed the rules so that the other team could come... which per RS was because Vanessa was on the losing team. I do suspect all this to be true as it makes a lot more sense why they were upset. Then I also speculate that Rachel was upset as a result of this which is why she said she didn't feel like she was one of the top girls as Nick wanted Vanessa there (i.e. if Rachel was F1 - why need Vanessa there). I also suspect that Nick may have consoled Vanessa - which would be why Rachel indicated "I was there" as in I saw you console her. This part is speculation on my part.

Then the fight the following week with Vanessa and Rachel, which no one seems to have specifics of. According to RS there was a fight and the girls sided with Rachel. Which is why it is speculated Vanessa was no where to be seen after her date.

Also Vanessa/Danielle were seen in the season promo crying together and when Vanessa says "I am so tired of his stupid decisions" - which was sleuthed to be Bimini when Danielle M was eliminated (based on the hotel room and Danielle's attire being the same as when she left) - which they also left out - which again doesn't make sense to me. Just made it look like Vanessa was no where to be seen when her best friend left - even thought they had something in the promo.

This season has been a hack job and I give all that credit to the editors. Based on RS sources Nick knew early that he was choosing Vanessa. There were also photos released during the season of Nick with Raven, Rachel and Vanessa on dates. A lot of people on this forum thought just based on those photos that Nick would end up choosing Vanessa. She also ended up being one of the last girls actually identified even though we had a picture of her and her first name. I believe that Nick was overly transparent this season in who he liked and the editors tried to cover it up with the Corrine show and the rest of the edit hack job.
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Post by Litta123 Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:27 am

@sbolduc bestbud! Thanks for filling in the pieces for me. It makes a lot more sense now. yes


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Post by KB_Mom Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:38 am

The theory of Litta and sbolduc that whatever happened in Bimini between Rachel and Vanessa was a carry over from the St. Thomas volleyball date debacle makes sense to me. The whole season has been an edit hack job but the GD in St. Thomas was the worst imo. Nothing they showed of that date made any sense to me.
We now know per Rachel on JK that she was approached "soon" after she was eliminated about being next lead, so it makes sense they would scrub Rachel's edit and leave out the R\V fight.
Still don't understand why they left out the Vanessa and Danielle crying in the closet after showing it in the promo.


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Post by Maya Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:47 am

I honestly think that them not showing the fight and what happened is only helping Rachel and not Vanessa. Everyone on SM keeps saying how the conflict isn't shown because V is F1 and they have to cover how bitchy she is. But no one knows what side we all would be after watching what really happend.


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Post by atem Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:48 am

GuardianAngel wrote:If someone remembers the tweeters username, I'd like to check something else. Basically @atem, she tweeted four roses, then three roses, then two roses to Reality Steve. All within our filming schedule and time frame for RC's. So after the RC she tweeted the number of roses to coincide with her position.

She started selling bachelor shirts when she returned and promoted them.
Whoever gave her gowns, tweeted pic's before she left, teasing the green gown, and when she returned welcoming her return after filming which confirmed dates. All on SM.

I haven't seen any proof of that at all.  If she was feeding info to Steve, all she had to do was e-mail him.  Not tweet it for anyone to see.  So, her tweeting for anyone bothering to look could make the same assumption and RS has never said anything other than Vanessa was F1 from the get go and he knew about the so called fight with Rachel.  

Raven has never been fake or mean.  Corrine is a spoiled brat and I don't get this hate for Raven when she's said nothing but nice things about Nick after filming.

So Corrine can call Vanessa and others a B word, but Raven is the fake one? Please.


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Post by Guest Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:06 am

I've never found Raven to be fake either. She's a sassy girl, but I appreciate that she doesn't hide behind liking tweets or IG comments. She says what's on her mind. The way that she's been so enthusiastically excited about Rachel becoming the Bachelorette and hasn't shown any signs of jealousy or resentment is pretty telling. I like her. IMO.

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Post by Kashathediva Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:10 am

I like her, too.



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Post by mprssdbyu Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:00 am

IMO, the exchange weeks ago on SM of all places tells me a great deal in hindsight. It pretty much lays out the conflict between Raven's group of girls vs V and just how happy they were that Nick wanted his F1 to continue on the VB group date.  I wish I could recall it here but I have no idea where to find it. CFA speaks volumes now. If the fact that V didn't want her time spent with N to be represented by the lines that were drawn in the house when he was not around, I don't blame her. I don't blame any of them for feeling like they could blow any moment esp with those strong personalities fighting for ONE guy. I think Rachel is great but I'm not naive enough to believe that she won't put on her lawyer hat in a NY minute. By that I mean if she's feeling challenged, I don't believe for a minute she's going to stand down and say okay. Not even close. JMOAA


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Post by Bee Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:55 am

Maya wrote:I honestly think that them not showing the fight and what happened is only helping Rachel and not Vanessa. Everyone on SM keeps saying how the conflict isn't shown because V is F1 and they have to cover how bitchy she is. But no one knows what side we all would be after watching what really happend.


I couldn't disagree more. We have been told of other instances of Vanessa not having nice things to say about other girls that were also edited out e.g. her and Taylor supposedly warning Nick that Danielle L was fake etc. Also her crying and questioning Nick's "stupid decisions" which to me may come across entitled if she expects him to just do what she thinks he should rather than letting him do what he thinks is best for him and letting him follow his instincts. If they were only trying to protect Rachel then why leave that out?

Also they could have shown Vanessa crying about loosing the volleyball and perhaps being a sore loser and still edited out Rachel and the other girls being annoyed at Nick letting them stay and made it seem that the other girls didn't have a problem with it.

I agree that we can't say who we would have thought was in the right or wrong without seeing what happened and maybe even then we may have just sympathised with both girls which was how I hoped I would feel when I heard they argued as I did like both girls. There have been times we have seen arguments on all shows across the franchise before where you can sympathise with all parties and see where they are all coming from without casting either side as a villain.

I do find it interesting though that if they are protecting anyone we only hear of one incident with Rachel whereas there were a few with Vanessa so if anything i'd at least be honest enough to recognise they are probably protecting both if not more Vanessa IMO.


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