Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

I do think Nick has only shown real intimate potential with only one--Vanessa.
It has been a long time since I have seen an actual real connection from the M&G. No one else IMO.

Kashathediva wrote:I do think Nick has only shown real intimate potential with only one--Vanessa.
It has been a long time since I have seen an actual real connection from the M&G. No one else IMO.

I agree.

I just saw zero chem with Rachel..that date was a big bore to me with Nick acting like he was into it when he wasn't..I saw no real connection from him, just saying all the right things.
Same as with Danielle L..which makes it not a shock that she is gone next week, same reason Rachel leaves before F2.

Question...I was wondering if we know who the final overnight date is with? Is Vanessa the first or last in the Fantasy Suite cause I know she gets the last hometown which I love!

Lisa wrote:I just saw zero chem with Rachel..that date was a big bore to me with Nick acting like he was into it when he wasn't..I saw no real connection from him, just saying all the right things.
Same as with Danielle L..which makes it not a shock that she is gone next week, same reason Rachel leaves before F2.

Question...I was wondering if we know who the final overnight date is with? Is Vanessa the first or last in the Fantasy Suite cause I know she gets the last hometown which I love!

While I do think Nick genuinely liked Rachel, it felt like something was missing. I personally felt like the conversation just clicked between Nick/Vanessa whereas with Rachel it still felt forced to me and that he was kind of telling her what she wanted to hear. I just thought it was interesting because people on twitter think Nick was disengaged after the date with Rachel whereas I felt that way about Vanessa. I still think he has the clearest connection on all levels with Vanessa. What do you guys think?

Nick and Vanessa's first date felt like your average episode 7,8, or even FSD as far as ease, comfort, PDA, etc. Just next level. That was a physical, emotional, intellectual connection. For sure. Reciprocated. Nick with Raven/Rachel felt more normal/good first Bach date.

With Rachel and Nick it's like intellectual/physical connection. Raven too. And he respects both Raven and Rachel and enjoys being in their company. He's missing the emotional piece with both though. It's just so strong with Vanessa, and I think he knows it. How could he not know that? It's obvious. He likes the chase with V too. She may as well be his Bachelorette #3.

Perhaps tptb has to hide/mask the love story.  
IMO Nick and Vanessa share a passionate uninhibited nature which comes across even when they are having a little tiff poolside. Might be that any interaction between them is just too intense too soon for the storyboard.  Once it's more typical for "the process" I'm hoping to be treated.

notarose wrote:Perhaps tptb has to hide/mask the love story.  
IMO Nick and Vanessa share a passionate uninhibited nature which comes across even when they are having a little tiff poolside. Might be that any interaction between them is just too intense too soon for the storyboard.  Once it's more typical for "the process" I'm hoping to be treated.

For them to cut so much Nick and Vanessa out since Epi 2 tells me the viewer would have known his F1 even without spoilers. Now that it is later in the process and he has had a chance to get to know the others that are in the party of F3, I don't think it will be quite as obvious ... or maybe it will. We'll see.

Just because Nick has a stong connection with Vanessa does mot mean he cant with anyone else. Yes I saw a cute nnectin with spoiled F1 Vanessa but I have also seen connectins with Rachel(as told in his blog), Raven and even Dani L. His connections ns with these other women does not diminish the connections n with Vanessa. IMO

For me, it was telling when Nick greeted Rachel at the start of the date with a low energy, "Oh, hello"...that he sees her in the friend zone. She comes across as a very special woman, just not the right one for him.

On his 1-1 with Vanessa, on the other hand, there was energy and sparkle. Unmatched by any other connection so far.

My .02 cents: I have to see both  Nick's "i can't keep my hands off you" and"overwhelming tears" on another 1-1 date to make me believe the connection to be at the same level as Vanessa's.  I am not discounting the attractions and connections with others - that will be the normal in this social experiment. It is Nick's actions and reactions that I watch and unfortunately he is not a good actor. I believe he is trying to fall for more than one girl - and I wonder if that happens or if his breakdown is about his heart is not engaging for the ones he's pegged as frontrunners. I wonder if he is thinking, "what if I already sent her home?" On the other hand - he could also be afraid that if this one girl (Vanessa) leaves, "can he make his heart fall in love with someone else?"  

I feel that this season is all about watching Nick's last chance to either be engaged or  rejected again. They will try to show doubts with the obvious fronrunner ( Vanessa or Rachel) while a steady darkhorse who fell in love with him early becomes the emotional support throughout. Yet his attraction is stronger towards the ladies who have reservations or slower in developing. All IMO

  @Catdwoman50 "Nick's last chance" you said it right ... it's been shown that way. Crazy world! TB, I mean. Since there's so much life outside of it. Just following the SM posted here I see the "experiment" working in Nick's favor.

I'm probably the oddball but I don't see "it" between her and Nick. Sure I think he likes her, but I could say the same for a few others too. Funnily enough, the most I've liked Nick this season was on his date with Rachel. All JMO

Vanessa is kicka$$. I continue to hope she doesn't end up with Nick. Lol