Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

Thanks for the updates to my memory, Sprite and BKay!

Happy to oblige @suest!

Hi all. Happened to roll on over from the Aussie threads. I have never watched a US season before and have only watched from F4 down. Apart from being closely gobsmacked by Fanasty Suites (we don't do that) I was taken by the narrative. And forgive me if I'm wrong but it seems clear to me. I think with all of the scenes with Rachel, face in the sunlight, strong looking, it was visually perfect for the next Bachette lead. With Raven I have the feeling that the narrative is Nick is taking her from a girl to a woman, stronger more independent etc. whereas I see the relationship with Vanessa as worth fighting for. There are the obvious hurdles that I didn't see with the others to overcome. There also seems to be a depth to the relationship that I didn't see with the others. Anyway just thought I would throw my two cents worth in. Seems like it was a great season. I may need to go back and watch the Corinne woman. She seems a piece of work all imo

Nick sure has a penchant for having loud conversations (allegedly) in public places .

@Sundy Thanks for crossing over to the other side of the world! Love your comments!

Sundy wrote:Hi all. Happened to roll on over from the Aussie threads. I have never watched a US season before and have only watched from F4 down. Apart from being closely gobsmacked by Fanasty Suites (we don't do that) I was taken by the narrative. And forgive me if I'm wrong but it seems clear to me. I think with all of the scenes with Rachel, face in the sunlight, strong looking, it was visually perfect for the next Bachette lead. With Raven I have the feeling that the narrative is Nick is taking her from a girl to a woman, stronger more independent etc. whereas I see the relationship with Vanessa as worth fighting for. There are the obvious hurdles that I didn't see with the others to overcome. There also seems to be a depth to the relationship that I didn't see with the others. Anyway just thought I would throw my two cents worth in. Seems like it was a great season. I may need to go back and watch the Corinne woman. She seems a piece of work all imo

@Sundy, I haven't really watched an episode of the Australia TB, but I have a question. Do the Australian Bach and Bachette get the opportunity to "test drive" the physical aspect of the relationship before engagement? Ala Fantasy Suites?

Catdwoman50 wrote:

Sundy wrote:Hi all. Happened to roll on over from the Aussie threads. I have never watched a US season before and have only watched from F4 down. Apart from being closely gobsmacked by Fanasty Suites (we don't do that) I was taken by the narrative. And forgive me if I'm wrong but it seems clear to me. I think with all of the scenes with Rachel, face in the sunlight, strong looking, it was visually perfect for the next Bachette lead. With Raven I have the feeling that the narrative is Nick is taking her from a girl to a woman, stronger more independent etc. whereas I see the relationship with Vanessa as worth fighting for. There are the obvious hurdles that I didn't see with the others to overcome. There also seems to be a depth to the relationship that I didn't see with the others. Anyway just thought I would throw my two cents worth in. Seems like it was a great season. I may need to go back and watch the Corinne woman. She seems a piece of work all imo

@Sundy,  I haven't really watched an episode of the Australia TB, but I have a question.  Do the Australian Bach and Bachette get the opportunity to "test drive" the physical aspect of the relationship before engagement? Ala Fantasy Suites?

In the first season they had the opportunity but the lead told all three that he didn't want to take the opportunity up. Ever season after that it has not been offered at all as part of the show. I think as a whole the Aussie version is a lot less physical overall. Seems to have had a great level of success though for the couples involved. Season 1,3 and 4 of the Bach are all still together as well as season 2 of Bachette

Sundy wrote:

Catdwoman50 wrote:

Sundy wrote:Hi all. Happened to roll on over from the Aussie threads. I have never watched a US season before and have only watched from F4 down. Apart from being closely gobsmacked by Fanasty Suites (we don't do that) I was taken by the narrative. And forgive me if I'm wrong but it seems clear to me. I think with all of the scenes with Rachel, face in the sunlight, strong looking, it was visually perfect for the next Bachette lead. With Raven I have the feeling that the narrative is Nick is taking her from a girl to a woman, stronger more independent etc. whereas I see the relationship with Vanessa as worth fighting for. There are the obvious hurdles that I didn't see with the others to overcome. There also seems to be a depth to the relationship that I didn't see with the others. Anyway just thought I would throw my two cents worth in. Seems like it was a great season. I may need to go back and watch the Corinne woman. She seems a piece of work all imo

@Sundy,  I haven't really watched an episode of the Australia TB, but I have a question.  Do the Australian Bach and Bachette get the opportunity to "test drive" the physical aspect of the relationship before engagement? Ala Fantasy Suites?

In the first season they had the opportunity but the lead told all three that he didn't want to take the opportunity up. Ever season after that it has not been offered at all as part of the show. I think as a whole the Aussie version is a lot less physical overall. Seems to have had a great level of success though for the couples involved. Season 1,3 and 4 of the Bach are all still together as well as season 2 of Bachette

Wow! There might be something to that because our one Bachelor who married his F1 have abstained from the Fantasy Suites as well. Well folks, perhaps we should benchmark and learn from other TB success stories. Thanks @Sundy!

Sundy wrote:Hi all. Happened to roll on over from the Aussie threads. I have never watched a US season before and have only watched from F4 down. Apart from being closely gobsmacked by Fanasty Suites (we don't do that) I was taken by the narrative. And forgive me if I'm wrong but it seems clear to me. I think with all of the scenes with Rachel, face in the sunlight, strong looking, it was visually perfect for the next Bachette lead. With Raven I have the feeling that the narrative is Nick is taking her from a girl to a woman, stronger more independent etc. whereas I see the relationship with Vanessa as worth fighting for. There are the obvious hurdles that I didn't see with the others to overcome. There also seems to be a depth to the relationship that I didn't see with the others. Anyway just thought I would throw my two cents worth in. Seems like it was a great season. I may need to go back and watch the Corinne woman. She seems a piece of work all imo

Great post @Sundy and spot on as usual 

Just to add to that, there have been 4 completed seasons of TB Aussie (5th being filmed right now) and 2 completed seasons for the 'ette Aussie.

GuardianAngel wrote:Just to add to that, there have been 4 completed seasons of TB Aussie (5th being filmed right now)  and 2 completed seasons for the 'ette Aussie.

Are any of these couples married? and how long ago was the first season?

Married? they are not even engaged some of them. No engagements at the FRC. Going by memory, Sam Wood is the only one engaged?

Can't wait for that wedding BTW.